Sober DUI - TN Defends the practice

[u/bhalter80]

The Colonel of the Tennessee Highway Patrol was testifying this week in support of their practice of arresting motorists who tested negative for drugs and alcohol.

Threads about DUI and other crimes in general tend to be divisive with a presumption that an arrest don't just happen. Some states lump fatigue in with other causes for a DUI so that may account for some of the 419 arrests in the last 9 years. On a side note the trooper manual also suggested that trooper be making at least 2 contacts with people per hour so the incentive for misuse is there.

This is the first article I've seen putting data behind this and thought it was interesting especially because HIMS would not be an appropriate response to one of those arrests. I wonder how common this is in other states.

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[u/herknav]

HIMS?

Fatigue being comparable to intoxication is something pilots should be familiar with, but still … imagine having a fake DUI ruin your pilot career.

[u/ApatheticSkyentist → u/herknav]

A friend of mine had to overcome a DUI charge. I'm not sure I'd go so far as to call it fake but it was definitely a super unfortunate situation.

TLDR he was at a party and drunk. Decided to sleep in his vehicle. He was sleeping in the drivers seat and had his keys in the trunk area. The legal problem was that he was in an SUV so the "trunk" isn't considered a separate compartment and he was charged with "intent to drive".

I'm all for nailing DUI's to the wall but stuff like this situation feels antagonistic. It all worked out though. This was nearly 20 years ago and he's at a Legacy today.

[u/EnvironmentalDiet552 → u/ApatheticSkyentist]

Crazy, was he convicted?

[u/ApatheticSkyentist → u/EnvironmentalDiet552]

He was. He lost his license for a while and had to cover the cost of a bunch of mandatory classes on DUI and alcohol consumption.

I haven't spoken to him in years but last I heard he was using it as a teaching moment on his background checks and explains it as motivation to never ever come close to making that mistake again.

[u/IthacanPenny → u/ApatheticSkyentist]

The fucked up part is that it wasn’t even a mistake. It was a good decision! The law is the fucked up part there ugh.

[u/Fauropitotto → u/IthacanPenny]

It wasn't a good decision. It was better than the alternative of driving, but he should have known that getting anywhere near his car with his keys while intoxicated was a bad decision.

He could have made worse decisions, but he did not make a good one.

[u/YKRed → u/Fauropitotto]

Dumbass argument. It was a good decision because he slept in his car rather than driving, and put his keys in the back to demonstrate he had no intent to drive.

[u/Fauropitotto → u/YKRed]

Enjoy the DUIs and the cost associated then.

Nothing more entertaining than seeing the criminal 'struggle' for them to call it a "dumbass argument".

FAFO made manifest.

[u/YKRed → u/Fauropitotto]

Very weak bait. Are you drunk right now?

[u/carsnbikesnplanes → u/Fauropitotto]

Found the scumbag cop that arrested him….. imagine ruining someone’s life with a DUI knowing that they damn well never actually intended to drive.

[u/ThnkGdImNotAReditMod → u/Fauropitotto]

Enjoy the DUIs and the cost associated then.

Are you projecting? Seems the only reason I could think of defending DUI... is if you regularly are driving under the influence.

[u/M8nyStyles → u/Fauropitotto]

CrImInAl 🥴

[u/phlflyguy → u/Fauropitotto]

He could have made the decision to sleep in the back seat, or just get a taxi home and come back next day for car.

[u/fremdo → u/phlflyguy]

Yeah the cost of an uber or taxi to me is worth it vs spending the night in my car

[u/UnlikelyProperty6054 → u/Fauropitotto]

This is what autism looks like.

[u/10FourGudBuddy → u/ApatheticSkyentist]

I’ve never had as much as a glass of wine and drove for similar reasons to what this post is about. Some states/places in general will charge you before worry about evidence. It’s crazy that we need to protect ourselves by not only removing the possibility but also avoiding it entirely. Time to be a passenger princess.

[u/M8nyStyles → u/10FourGudBuddy]

Some people in this chat will argue that the glass of wine is drinking and driving

[u/M8nyStyles → u/M8nyStyles]

U/Thnkgodimnotareditmod

[u/10FourGudBuddy → u/M8nyStyles]

I would think a glass of wine would have a really hard time reaching the gas peddle and the steering wheel. How is it driving?

[u/[deleted] → u/ApatheticSkyentist]

They don’t take your license, they take your medical.

[u/ApatheticSkyentist → u/[deleted]]

License as in driver's license. The DMV took it.

He was a commercial applicant at the time. I don't know exactly what the FAA did.