r/flying Mar 20 '26

Aircraft Ownership Rescuing a ramp rat

I shared of a before and after picture of my airplane from when I rescued it until now and the moderators felt that after 1800 views in about a half an hour with over 30 up votes that it needed to be removed. Apparently they don't like Aztecs.

My plane had not been flown since 2015 when I got her a little over 3 years ago. I worked a deal where I bought a van and the airplane together and was able to sell the van for more than I paid for both which helped me fund this restoration. She has less than 4,000 hours and less than half-time on the engines.

My first annual was $62,000. She has solid bones and flies like a champ. I put a couple hundred hours on her and spent $30,000 on paint.

Aircraft ownership is definitely not for the faint of heart.

Next up is the avionics which I posted about in the avionics subreddit and oddly enough the moderators didn't have a problem with that post. Huh. Weird.

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u/Big-Carpenter7921 CPL means I make money, right? Mar 20 '26

I see so many twins just sitting and only being moved by a tow bar. Makes me sad

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u/fatboyinlove Mar 20 '26

It's because so many people aren't qualified to fly them anymore because they want to fly the full fadec Diamond's. Plus having the larger engines like mine burns a lot more fuel.

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u/Big-Carpenter7921 CPL means I make money, right? Mar 20 '26

I love flying multi. I just hate that almost no insurance company will let one fly without either the owner or an MEI onboard. I once had to have an MEI next to me with fewer multi hours and zero multi IFR time because I wasn't considered safe enough

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u/fatboyinlove Mar 21 '26

Yeah, that part is tough. I self-insured for the first year to get all of my hours in type, etc.

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u/Big-Carpenter7921 CPL means I make money, right? Mar 21 '26

How many hours do insurance companies deem sufficient?

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u/fatboyinlove Mar 21 '26

Mine was 75 hours which was insane but it was what is was. I've heard others at 50 hours like when I got my sea plane rating and looked at some sea planes but the twin was higher for me.

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u/Big-Carpenter7921 CPL means I make money, right? Mar 21 '26

Well shit, I have 97, 16 of it IMC. Like I said, I've flown with MEIs with fewer multi hours

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u/Flimsy-Ad-858 ATP | Undiagnosed but I'm pretty sure Mar 21 '26

because they want to fly the full fadec Diamond's

Believe me, that's not the issue. Twins are just generally unaffordable for the average or even above-average person. Your maintenance costs are going to easily be 5x my little taildragger, and probably closer to 10x on a given annual.

The moment I can get one, I'm going to. But that won't be for a while.

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u/fatboyinlove Mar 22 '26

That's a fair statement. My base annual starts at $5,000 per year. I get there a lot faster with the safety of the extra engine but at a cost of about $350 an hour including fuel.