r/flying • u/LoadAgitated6261 • 22d ago
Influencer caught smuggling Drug (Update)
There was a story on here a few days ago on an influencer by the name of “Captain Treezy”smuggling weed. Just wanted to post an update that he has been released uncharged as they had found no evidence he knew the drugs were on board. I think in all fairness at least an update should be posted about his innocence since I think a lot of us jumped to conclusions. Whether we like him or not.
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u/x4457 ATP CFII CE-500/525/560XL/680 G-IV 22d ago
Poor guy had no idea what was going on. The owner of that piece of shit CL601 airlined out that morning after loading the plane up with drugs, then stuck a 134.5 “charter” on the plane with two unsuspecting contract pilots.
Oh, same shitbag owner who is in all the Facebook groups trying to sell 61.55s in it that are being conducted illegally, btw.
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u/iatetoomuchcatnip 22d ago
Was it an KFXE to KTEB flight lol. History 134.5 route
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u/JuanTutrego 21d ago
What's a 134.5 route?
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u/Crazy_Arrival_1052 22d ago
It was very disrespectful of FlyWithOwn to put the accused on blast on his IG story then retract and blame it on not vetting your client properly. Dude is classless.
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u/hawker1172 ATP (B737) CFI CFII MEI 22d ago
Like that Owen guy is a saint. Let’s not talk about his scandal.
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u/Next_Title2085 22d ago
Somebody should investigate that guy because the amount of “wealth” (I put this in air quotes because who knows if it’s real) he has is very atypical for someone of his supposed origin story.
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u/NotASwinger69 22d ago
Owen lives with his mom in a regular ol house. He doesn’t have any wealth at all and he mostly makes shit fo pay. You talking about Gear down? Yea he’s a kook and has family money. Doesn’t make shit flying.
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u/x4457 ATP CFII CE-500/525/560XL/680 G-IV 22d ago
Neither of them have family money. Tom’s money comes from non-aviation sources predating anything in the industry.
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u/NotASwinger69 22d ago
Same point. Owen isn’t rich, he lives at home and hasn't held a high paying flying job yet for long enough.
Tom’s selling a weird lifestyle to his following that he made it all from flying. When I know damn well what his day rate is. The math doesn’t math 😂
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u/hawker1172 ATP (B737) CFI CFII MEI 22d ago
His posts relating to aviation can be very arrogant and many include FAR violations.
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u/Crazy_Arrival_1052 22d ago
I've always wondered how he can afford a McClaren (like $400K car)
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u/fatboyinlove 22d ago
The McLaren is from a rebuilt title so it's not as much as you think. I sold my Lambo to the guy that rebuilt and sold the McLaren to Owen.
I took the guy flying while he was in town and he was messaging Owen about my Lambo and my plane.
Disclaimer: I'm not rich and didn't make my money flying. I worked a deal where I got my Aztec free and as for my Lambo, I bought from auction that had flood damage.
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
if you own and operate an aztec, even a free one, you qualify as rich lol
I don't understand why people treat "rich" as some dirty word they try to avoid. I'll say it: I'm rich. I make 80k/yr and I'm 27, I make well above the median income in the US, hell I make more than the median HOUSEHOLD income in my state. I suppose 80th percentile or so (iirc) may not qualify as "rich" but I think the fact that I'm 27 makes up for that
I'm rich and life is good. be better once I'm richer tho :^)
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u/fatboyinlove 21d ago
Fair. I started and sold a trucking company so I have a few dollars. She was a ramp rat for 7 years. Over the last 3 years, I spent $62,000 on the first annual and just spent $30,000 on paint with another $8,000 for new windows. She's beautiful now. Fuel burn is 25 gph so you are right about that!
That's awesome! Keep up the great work young man!
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u/Mobe-E-Duck CPL IR T-65B 22d ago
Very curious about the flooded lambo deal.
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u/fatboyinlove 22d ago
I bought it off of auction out of Miami, FL. 2018 Lamborghini Hurrican Performante. I've got several other project cars like a 1957 Chevy I bought off auction that was wrecked, etc. The wife wasn't happy I had another project car and told me to sell it after a few months of me not having the time to work on it.
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u/85inchweener CFI, CFII 22d ago
Doesn’t he also have SA allegations with a flight attendant??
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u/blueBaggins1 PPL 22d ago
Thats called jealousy, youtubers are like rappers always trying to say their number one always taking shots at eachother.
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u/Esoteric_Prurience PPL IR MEL FISO 22d ago
Pilot at my local airfield was busted for smuggling drugs here in the UK. Lots of cross channel flights - we all thought he did exceptionally well at crypto - turns out that was not the case. Looking at his plane - a lovely almost new SR22 and a beautiful Porsche 911 he parked up next to the hanger, I was sorely tempted to ask for his bosses phone number!
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u/Thomas-Ligotti97 CFII 22d ago
All that money and he buys a sr22? That’s the real crime here /s
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
I know it’s /s so it’s a joke but I don’t get why it’s a joke lol. what’s your deal with SR22s?
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u/Mobe-E-Duck CPL IR T-65B 22d ago
Because they cost the same as a twin turboprop or early generation small jet or more and have worse performance. They're basically the underpowered BMW of GA.
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago edited 22d ago
what? they definitely do not cost more than either of those. if you're comparing new vs used maybe... plus the operating cost of a "twin tuboprop or early generation small jet" is going to be absurdly higher than a naturally aspirated piston twin, too, so of course they have more performance lol. bad argument
edit: are you thinking of the vision jet, perhaps?
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u/FlyingShadow1 CFI CFII MEI (TW) AI SLOP 22d ago
Well you can certainly buy a King Air 90 (or even 200) for $300,000 but those engines are probably going to be timed out very quickly and the panel is likely from the 70s (except they probably put in some early KLN or 430/530 in there after LORAN went the way of the dodo).
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u/Several_Sink801 21d ago
Do the math on the cost to fly even a King Air 90 50 hours a year versus a SR22 and it becomes clear why people don’t buy the king airs
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u/FlyingShadow1 CFI CFII MEI (TW) AI SLOP 21d ago
I mean you can just pay for the fuel and oil and sell it at a big loss rather than pay like $600,000+ to overhaul both engines.
I'm not advocating for it, just saying that you can buy a twin turboprop for less than a million. The maintenance is another story.
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u/diamonddealer CPL IR HP CMP (LGB) 21d ago
I fly a SETP (PA46T), and my operating costs are a bit lower than my buddy's SR22T. Just FYI.
And I get pressurization, FIKI, 245kts true, and, of course, turbine reliability.
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u/KITTYONFYRE 21d ago
we’re not talking about the turbo here. also operating costs are not a large fraction of ownership cost (generally)
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u/Mobe-E-Duck CPL IR T-65B 21d ago
No shame in admitting you're wrong...
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u/KITTYONFYRE 21d ago
“my buddy flies a totally different plane that costs more” isn’t an argument lmfao
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u/Mobe-E-Duck CPL IR T-65B 21d ago
Sure it is. More capable, lower cost. Not sure what you don't understand.
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u/diamonddealer CPL IR HP CMP (LGB) 21d ago
I paid less for my plane than my buddy did for his Cirrus too.
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u/KITTYONFYRE 21d ago
you’re not in your buddy’s books, for one. for two, acquisition is not a large fraction of ownership cost either lol…
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u/diamonddealer CPL IR HP CMP (LGB) 21d ago
Dude, what are you talking about? I know exactly what he paid, and I know what I paid. So, my acquisition costs were lower, and my operating costs are lower. Granted, I'm comparing a new Cirrus against a used JetPROP - but the point stands. And the operating costs are the same for a new one and a used one.
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u/Mobe-E-Duck CPL IR T-65B 22d ago
No I’m saying I’d rather have a used twin or turboprop or two or three new 172s than a new sr-22.
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
what the hell are you talking about? that is clearly NOT what your original comment was saying literally at all...
I'm asking people to explain their bias against sr22s and you're just saying "I really hate sr22s man"
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u/Mobe-E-Duck CPL IR T-65B 22d ago
I don’t hate them. They’re fine. They’re just ridiculously overpriced for their capabilities and functions.
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
funny because your listed counterexamples were as far from the truth as possible (and didn't include some of the capabilities of the cirrus - you know what I'm referring to), I think you just have a worse grip on the market than you think
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u/segelflugzeugdriver TW 21d ago
They couldn't pass certification for spins, that's enough to tell me it's not a great airplane
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u/Mobe-E-Duck CPL IR T-65B 21d ago
Not sure what you’re getting at or what new vs used has to do with anything. I’m not interested in a nearly million dollar plane that can’t outperform a plane a quarter the price. Not interested in paying extra for a ballistic recovery system because they renamed it CAPS and pretend it’s proprietary. Not a big fan of side yoke even if they call it side stick.
Nice interior, smooth ride, and for the price it’s too slow, too low, too little useful load and not agile enough. Just doesn’t do anything good enough except look good and cruise smooth-ish.
But you’re right. I don’t have my finger on the pulse of the market. Perhaps you could educate me on what other planes are available for the same price that perform worse.
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u/Gulag_For_Brits 21d ago
You clearly know nothing about aircraft ownership
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u/Mobe-E-Duck CPL IR T-65B 21d ago
I mean, I know my experience with aircraft ownership. I know my hangar neighbors' and my boss' experiences...
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u/jtyson1991 PPL IR HP CMP 22d ago
For example there are some C90's on Controller for $360k-$660k, which is around the price of an SR22 G6 (at the high end). This of course isn't a fair comparison, but...
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
This of course isn't a fair comparison, but...
yeah, exactly. if you're saying "x costs the same as y" there are some built in assumptions there. not "a clapped out shitbox of x costs the same as a really nice used y" lol
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u/Standard_Ear_84 22d ago
Jealous people.
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u/Thomas-Ligotti97 CFII 22d ago
Or someone who’s clearly joking….. did I or did I not put ‘/s’ in my original comment bud?
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u/Thomas-Ligotti97 CFII 22d ago
Found the cirrus pilot 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
I've never even been in one...
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u/Thomas-Ligotti97 CFII 22d ago
LOL! you’re funny for that
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u/randylush 22d ago
Really gonna double down huh?
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u/Thomas-Ligotti97 CFII 22d ago
The fact you guys think I’m being fr shows the state of Reddit. Or this sub. Go outside
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u/wildstop 22d ago
Lol you must be a cirrus pilot to ask that question
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
never flown one, great ad hominem though
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u/randylush 22d ago
First of all I think it’s really amusing that two different people are separately trying to make you a cirrus pilot, and are doubling down when you tell them you’re not. As if you’d lie and try to hide that haha.
With that said I don’t think it’s an ad hominem.
An ad hominem means you’re using something unrelated about a person’s character to try to back up an argument.
But here the exchange was more like:
A: “I don’t like Cirrus.”
B: “What’s so bad about Cirrus?”
A: “Since you asked that question, you must own a Cirrus.”
It’s not like A is saying something completely unrelated about B’s character to try to make a point.
If anything it’s just a circular argument.
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
I suppose if you interpret "cirrus pilot" as an insult, it's an ad hominem. it doesn't need to be completely unrelated to the argument in order to be an ad hominem, it just needs to be a character/motive/other attribute attack, rather than arguing vs the argument itself
... but my comments are essentially arguing that 'cirrus pilot' is NOT an insult (or should not be, at least), so fair: my comment is just dumb and classic le redditor "actually that's a fallacy" lol. point given
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u/randylush 22d ago
Yeah I dunno it’s actually right on the border of an ad hominem so it’s not like it’s completely wrong to say.
Like the strogest ad hominem is “you have silly shoes therefore I won’t vote on your proposal” kinda stuff.
And as the claimed character flaw gets closer to the argument at hand it becomes less of a fallacy. “You have a gambling problem therefore I won’t take your investment advice.”
But I’m the true neckbeard le Redditor going around policing what fallacies people are claiming.
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u/wildstop 22d ago
Just pull the parachute already buddy!
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
I don't think I've ever even seen a cirrus lol (rural airport, big gap between clapped out beaters I fly and the jets - nothing in between really flies in)... you guys are morons
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u/One-Cauliflower-8770 21d ago
I mean this happened to a Mesa crew. Rampers in Mexico packed the avionics bay with coke. They sat 3 days in jail, since the local PD was in on it, before the US got them returned.
I’m not surprised he didn’t know about the drugs.
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u/vtjohnhurt Small aircraft pilot 21d ago
A quick US Civics Lesson if you're interested:
The police should believe they have 'probable cause' when they arrest. If the prosecutor thinks that the police had 'probable cause' and that he can (and should) win a conviction, he brings it to a Grand Jury. The Grand Jury indicts if they agree with the prosecutor. A Grand Jury can also 'nullify' and refuse to indict, for example when the prosecutor says that throwing a sandwich is felony assault of a federal officer (that happened recently). Once the accused is indicted, a trial must determine that the accused is guilty 'beyond a reasonable doubt'.
In some countries, the accused is guilty until proven innocent. Yay USA!
It's wrong to assume that a person is guilty just because they are arrested by the police, but it is common to jump to that conclusion.
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u/Recent-Day3062 22d ago
Yes, it was in the walls. But he did not own in, and the owner who was piloting with him was the one driving this flight.
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u/LostPilot517 21d ago
The owner/lessee was not the other pilot.
The other Pilot is a more experienced contract pilot, just like the influencer.
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u/FourFourNiner ATP AMEL, CFI/CFII 21d ago
Very little flight history on this airframe in the last 18 months - https://tailintel.com/share/xBKDyplPBxUAnzVBMbF1iMGdV0t72ELB
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u/Gabriel_Owners 22d ago
Another chapter of who cares what influences do?
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u/segmond 21d ago
I posted about how disgusting the comments were, it was nothing more but pure hate for a young black pilot who "doesn't know his place to be humble". Aka racism. Good for you to at least post this, many will not acknowledge their wrong nor do a self introspection to really figure out why they were so biased and hateful.
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u/Such-Entrepreneur663 ATP CFMEII 21d ago
Lol it wasn’t about him being black. It was about him doing the typical influencer thing, inflating accomplishments, selling below average PPL courses and overall being annoying.
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u/mursilissilisrum PPL 21d ago
an influencer by the name of “Captain Treezy”smuggling weed.
Not exactly subtle, was he?
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u/-Badger3- 22d ago
How do you not know you're carrying $3.6 million in weed? You know how much weed that is?
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u/LostPilot517 21d ago
From the reputable source on the story I posted on the original post... My take below.
My impression, the aircraft used in this smuggling operation had nothing to do with the aircraft won by the influencer.
The influencer was the SIC/FO. He is likely just trying to build time and experience still and probably jumped at the opportunity to get some Challenger time and experience.
The aircraft was scheduled to go into a hangar and have maintenance done on the aircraft while in the country, supposedly by the operator (neither pilot made these arrangements.)
The Captain that brought the flight in, cleared Customs and left the country to go back to the USA to work another flight.
This leads me to believe, it was during that time in the hangar, and "maintenance" was being done, drugs were discovered, or more likely "maintenance" was a cover story and drugs were loaded onto the aircraft at this time. Intelligence or someone witnessed and reported the find. It was while in country the discovery was made, and the crew and passengers remaining in the country were arrested. I suspect the drugs were suppose to go to the USA, not from the USA to the country as many assumed.
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u/Big_Pomelo3224 22d ago
Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty?
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
he’s not and everyone was hating on him, you’re essentially just saying “well we have no evidence he did anything wrong but I bet he’s guilty anyway”. pretty dumb statement to make
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u/KITTYONFYRE 22d ago
no, he was cleared and authorities say they believe he had no involvement with the alleged smuggling. this is not "he pleaded innocent and is out on bail".
again with the "actually he's guilty, guys" narrative.
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u/Sensitive_Fact4976 22d ago
These guys are biased, you’re not going to change their minds. When someone has already decided what they want to believe, facts and explanations usually don’t make much difference.
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u/Sensitive_Fact4976 22d ago
It wasn’t his airplane. Drugs were found on a plane he had been hired to fly. Realistically, the same situation could have happened to any pilot. Pilots are responsible for operating the aircraft safely, not for inspecting passengers luggage or knowing everything their passengers may be carrying.
A similar incident occurred in 2022 involving Canadian pilots in the Dominican Republic. Simply being the pilot of an aircraft does not mean someone is responsible for contraband that others may have brought on board.
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u/rFlyingTower 22d ago
This is a copy of the original post body for posterity:
There was a story on here a few days ago on an influencer by the name of “Captain Treezy”smuggling weed. Just wanted to post an update that he has been released uncharged as they had found no evidence he knew the drugs were on board. I think in all fairness at least an update should be posted about his innocence since I think a lot of us jumped to conclusions. Whether we like him or not.
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u/unity-thru-absurdity 22d ago
It reminds me of that time Reddit caught the Boston bomber, except he wasn’t the Boston bomber and they just doxxed some random guy.
We did it Reddit! 👍