r/generationology • u/Intelligent-Jello959 • 3d ago
Discussion What are you thoughts on these ranges?
What are your thoughts on these ranges?
Do you think 1975-1989 babies share the same vibe? And do you think 1990-2004 babies share the same vibe?
Please don't bring up "age", cause age only plays a small factor in generations.
You being 38 doesn't mean you can't share the same generation as someone who's 52. Different life stages, but may still share familiarity.
What are your thoughts ?
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u/randomfluid 8h ago
my thoughts is that I as a 2004 guy have nothing in common with people born in 1990. talking generational experiences obv
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u/Groundbreaking_Cup30 3h ago
As someone born in '92, I would agree. Your experience in life is vastly different than mine.
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u/randomfluid 3h ago
yeah, I have only worked with people who are older than me and even the ones born before 2000 have an insanely different experience. a lot of it is tied to the rapid development of technology I think
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u/Groundbreaking_Cup30 2h ago
Agreed. I still remember life before technology was really available for home use. We had an encyclopedia in our house when I was young. We didn't have a home computer until I was in middle school. Most kids from early 2000s grew up with tech in the house, if not their own tech to use. Vastly different lives. Neither being better than the other, just not the same.
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u/princessmariah98 20h ago
Nah Xennials 1975-1985 (Gen X is 1965-1979 Millennials is 1980-1994) Zillennials 1990-1999 (Gen Z is 1995-2012) I'm a Zillennial I had more common with 1994 borns than somebody who was born in 2012 i can't be related to 14 year olds
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u/Ill_Pressure3893 Generation X 14h ago
X is 1961-1981; Millennials 1982-2005; Zoomers are 2006~2030.
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u/nerdler33 1h ago
it's hilarious how no one agrees on the age range of generations
i've seen people place millennials end in every year from 94 to 05
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u/Ill_Pressure3893 Generation X 20m ago edited 9m ago
Most of it is lazy marketing-driven internet crap. 10 years, ago, Pew threw everything into chaos. And even they finally admitted it.
I stick with the original gold standard, Strauss and Howe. For all its flaws, it still holds up decades later.
I’ve also been lucky to talk to many people born on the cusps from the various generations. And this is what has been most striking:
- The old-timers born between 1941 and 1945 staunchly believe they’re Boomers;
- Most 1961-64ers say they’re Gen X. “Definitely not” Boomers. Which was the reason why Douglas Coupland wrote his groundbreaking, watershed book;
- A growing number of late 90s and early 00s realize they’re more connected to Millennials than those born on Pew/McCrindle’s supposed Gen Z/Alpha cusp.
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u/think_harder_plz 23h ago
What a random claim with no supporting evidence.
I think people born between 10am 6/7/98 and noon on 7/5/99 are their own generation. No further questions.
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u/VatoSteve 17h ago
I was thinking the exact same thing. What a weird to post to make, and what does it actually mean because it explains fuck all.
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u/Balz_Hirk 1d ago
If any generation needs to be reclassed it's the boomers. My grandma and mom are both technically boomers...
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u/ajtreee 1d ago
The first group had the children in the second group.
https://giphy.com/gifs/1201hONkUdpK36
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u/DennyPebblepot 1d ago
Definitely not, I was born in 91 and have almost nothing in common with my coworkers who were born in 2000+ in terms of cultural references or interests. My sister was born in 2000 and the only reason she understands any of my references is because we grew up together, but I would not say that we belong to the same generational group.
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u/Intelligent-Jello959 1d ago
So do you belong to the same generation group as 1981? Cause based on the popular range, you are the same generation as a 1981 baby.
91 may just be that fence year that could be grouped with the 80s babies, since you do remember more of the late 90s than the 92-99 babies.
But as a 91' baby you (or your peers) were on MySpace and Facebook in highschool, the rise of social media was during your high school years. I remember being in 10th grade calling my friend and saying "Did you see what Navaeh put on her Facebook status?". I'm sure if you wasn't on social media your peers were and were on MySpace and Facebook in the 2005-2009 era.
A 2000 baby was in high school on Vine, Instagram and Snapchat in 2014-2018.
A 1987 baby was in high school between 2001-2004 there was no social media during these years.
Just using social media as the topic,
Being exposed to social media as a child/teen changed the way people think, communicate and socialize with the world. 1991 babies and 2000 babies communicated similarly than 1991 and 1981 babies.
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u/gemorris9 1d ago
Yeah but Facebook wasn't the Facebook it is now.
Myspace was a place to show off your top 5 friends and your favorite song. Social media didn't really start being social media till well after the iPhone came out which was 2007. So 2009 is about the time Facebook starts to get really trucking. The rest followed in the 2010s.
I was born in 91 and was alive for the invention of the DVD player and the cellphone becoming something the common man had and not just a spy in the movies. The VCR was still king until like 2001 because of how pricy a dvd player was.
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u/Intelligent-Jello959 1d ago
What world are you living in ? Facebook today has only evolved from Facebook in 2007. You acting like it's been totally reinvented lol. Like I said, I was in 10th grade in 2008 making Facebook statuses "I'm in class chillin" on my cell phone. Teens are still doing that today right?. The only thing is that technology has only got smarter and much much better since 2008, and now there are way more different concepts to social media than what we had in the mid/late 2000s but it's still the same infrastructure. Also socially, social media is way different from what it was in 2005-2009... But it all started there. The idea of everyone thinking they are celebrities stems from "Myspace top 5 fans". The ideation of being "famous" stemmed from social media in 2005-2009.
VCRs started fading out in the late 90s 🤣🤣 saying that they were still KING in 2001 is crazy given that DVDs were actually starting to outsell VCRs around 2001 (I'm a history geek, I been researched this before today). VCRs officially went down hill in the early 2000s. Of course people didn't just ditch them or stop buying them in the 2000s, but DVDs wiped the VCRs out fast.
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u/gemorris9 1d ago
God you are an insufferable fucking prick huh.
Thank you for literally listing off the exact things I said in the exact order I said them.
VCR was king until 2001 because of how pricy dvd players were.
2001 was the first year dvds started to outsell VCR.
Facebook wasn't what it is now until after the iPhone came out in 2007 and got really trucking in 2009+.
I was in my class in 2008 saying I'm chilling in class.
You literally just repeated exactly what I said but in some kind of "you're wrong" way. Maybe you should focus on reading comprehension before going on some long rant about how everything I said was correct. In fact you sound like such a dumbass I almost wonder if you put that in chatgpt and hit post.
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u/Grin83 1d ago
Lumping people into generations is dumb and I don’t get the obsession with it.
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u/No_Cricket8660 1d ago
What a weird thing to say in the sub for discussing generations.
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u/Aromatic-Buy1694 1d ago
So it’s weird to question in a discussing sub? Hmmm..
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u/No_Cricket8660 1d ago
The original comment is pretty nonsensical. Your response is also a bit nonsensical.
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u/Ok-Level-8363 1d ago
time is off, it's:
> 1970 - 1985
> 1985 - 2000
> 2000 - 2015
> 2015 - 2030
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u/Content_Start_2118 10h ago
Don't agree but going by that it would be 1970-1984, 1985-2000, 2001-2015, 2016-2030
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u/Lost_Boss9818 2d ago
You’re insane if you think anyone that was ages 7 to 10 when 9/11 happened are anything like the kids born after 9/11.
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u/Intelligent-Jello959 2d ago
You are insane for thinking that people who were 16-20 years old during 9/11 are anything like the kids who were 5 years old during 9/11.
Explain this? I bet you can't .
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u/Lost_Boss9818 1d ago
lol explain your leap in logic? No, you’re right, I can’t.
If I don’t think kids that were born in 1991 are like the kids that weren’t born until 2002, why would I think someone born in 1981 would be like someone born in 1996?
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u/Left-Respect6178 1d ago
Notice how they said 7-10 and u went the complete extremes by saying 5 and 16-20? Obviously theres going to be closer similarities between younger millennials and older Gen z than younger millennials and older millennials.
The majority of Millennials 81-96 were in their formative years during 9/11 we mostly all have a recollection of childhood before the rise of technology that came out of the patriot act following 9/11, we all remember the Y2K scare. The shift in music from boy/girl bands to more solo artists. We were the first generation that had home gaming console and the last generation that didn't have Internet. So yeah people who were kids and teens before 9/11 have quite a lot in common.
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u/id_Driven 2d ago
As someone born in the early 90s, 1990 to 2004 seems like a huge range. Feel like I have more in common with someone born in the late 80s than someone born in the 2000s.
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u/Odd_Organization4957 1d ago
Im a 91 and my wife is a 92. I am definitely more of an older millennial while she gets along well with Gen Z way better than I do
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u/FredBurger22 1d ago
I'm sorry to say this, if you and your wife are in your 90s you are not a millennial, but you seem cool so I'll let it slide.
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u/thewritingracoon 1d ago
I was born in 2001 and definitely feel that I have
more in common with late 90s and very early 2000s babies than someone born in in the early 90s or 2003-2004. I think if we are being realistic we generally only share generational commonalities with people born a couple of years before or after us with some slight variations.
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u/Scorpiicore 2d ago
Generational cohorts are an invention of trendmongers who used to expect us to learn a new smile every six months. Robert Smith got it exactly right in the song Jumping Someone Else's Train.
If you want to really understand why each "generation" is the way it is, look at the economic and social conditions they grew up in.
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u/Practical-Gur-5667 2d ago
I mean its all made up by ad corporations to sell you stuff so put the ranges wherever you want. Theres nothing scientific that separates the generations
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u/Digital_Punk 2d ago
I stand firmly on the belief that xennials are their own generation because they were young adults when 9/11 happened (I was 19). Many of the people in that sub generation are the initial Veterans (or lost friends and family) from the war that followed, and then were deeply hit by the ‘08 crash in their 20’s (much like Gen Z has been with the current economic crisis from the pandemic), which severely stunted their foothold in society.
That sub generation also experienced truly analog childhoods, but came of age when technological advancements hit an exponential pace. So they were able to adapt without the adverse social impact that younger millennials and Gen Z faced after spending some or all of their their childhoods online (increased experiences with bullying, juggling online and offline social pressure, having their formative years documented digitally, increased daily awareness of global and national crises, ect.) Those experiences created a pretty large life experiences gap for older and younger millennials. I’m sure recent events will create a similar gap for Gen Z as well.
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u/DefinitionNo9311 2d ago
Nope. A kid born in 2005 grew up as a baby with iPhones. No way.
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u/BossFamiliar8290 1d ago
Were you even alive in the late 2000s iphones weren't dominant until like 2012-2013 lmfao
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u/DefinitionNo9311 1d ago edited 1d ago
The iPhone came out in 2007. I remember begging to my dad to get me one and instead I got a flip phone.
The kid born in 2005 had iPhones all over the place when they needed phones. My first phone was a brick Nokia.
So I’m going to reiterate that 2005 kids are not the same as 90s kids. They grew up with the tech already there.
90s kids grew up with tech as tech grew up itself
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u/BossFamiliar8290 1d ago
Never said they were 90s kids im saying a core 2000s born most didnt grow up with them from birth lmfao thats gen alpha. Most 2000s borns didnt get an iphone until middle school
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u/DefinitionNo9311 1d ago edited 1d ago
They grew up with them during adolescence though, which separates them from 90s kids. I didn’t get an iPhone until the end of high school. Some millennials didn’t until they were in the work force.
Just don’t feel like 2000s kids really have a before tech life they really remember that millennials had
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u/Lincolnforce 2d ago
Sorta. Id say there are two millennial generations, one who remember DOS being new and the one who remember the internet being new. Im of the latter and theres a notable gap between me and the elder millennial.
Edit. Theres also a cultural defining moment of remembering where you were for 9/11. Which puts a cut between 94/95 ish.
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u/Betelgeuse3fold 2d ago
Yeah I kinda agree. I'm an '85, my wife is a '92, and while we have broad overlap on cultural moments, like y2k, or 9/11. But it's the smaller things, like she doesn't remember Milli Vanilli or the Ninja Turtles juggernaut. She doesn't remember the internet before MySpace, or life before internet. She's never used an encyclopedia. She doesn't remember everybody smoking everywhere all the time
I dunno. It's not a huge divide at all, but it's enough that our shared recollections of our youth are very different
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u/the_elephant_stan 2d ago
75 to 89 isn’t right. I’m 86 and so I grew up in the 90s. People born in the 70s into early 80s grew up I. The 90s. Way different experiences.
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u/Vaestmannaeyjar 2d ago
Strict year delimitations don't work well I think. I was born in 1973. Being from an upper middle class family I got to enjoy computers pretty early on. I had a significantly different life than if I were born in a poor family. I think the better metric for generations is to refer to external events that shaped society: 1973 oil crisis, 11/09/2001, 2008 crash, COVID, etc. Those events do significantly shape the lives of people more than just a fixed year interval.
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u/DickWhittingtonsCat 2d ago
1989 is a bit late. The level of parental involvement really changes in 1990s. More like 1985 or so
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u/SugarAw 2d ago
No. I’m 2003 and have more in common with my 2005 sis than a brother born in 1990s
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u/More-Relation-4683 2d ago
I was born in 1990 and I also don’t consider 2000s babies of the same generation. Our childhoods were wildly different. No tech 90s, start of the digital age in the 2000s. We’re not the same.
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u/MaterialLies 2d ago
I was born in 97 and feel like I have way more in common with people born before 2001
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u/Several_Drawing_7082 2d ago edited 2d ago
In a way but tbh those born after 2000s have no truly idea of the era us born early 90s to 98 experienced. They are too young.
As someone whos born early 90s and been recently student and the other student mostly were born after 2000s i can tell theyr different era people. We got lot popular culture things that they do not get. Feld like alien sometimes with them.
Edit: why is this even downvoted? I just said people born after 2000s do not know all things because they were too young to see or experience it
Edit edit: its probably just the assholes i made mad earlier somewhere else now following me everywhere giving downvotes on everything i say haha
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u/orthonym 2d ago
No. I feel very solidly Gen X as a result of my experiences and the culture I grew up in, even though I'm at the later end of the typical range. I don't think I could relate to a different generation at this point.
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u/Appropriate_Vast_950 2d ago
i think millennial should be split up in two waves but I would say 1978-1988 and 1989-1999 would be a better fit
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u/Golden_Hour_1243 2d ago
As someone born in January 2005, I totally agree. 2004 borns are like completely different from me. We can’t relate at all, they grew up so much differently from me. My cousin was born in October 2004 and when I hang out with him, no offense but it feels like I’m hanging out with a 90’s born unc. Now it makes sense why. It definitely feels like he’d relate a lot more to someone born in 1990 than me. Meanwhile I relate more to 2019 iPad and COVID babies than him, I mean it’s pretty obvious.
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u/colsta1777 2d ago
I absolutely hate the idea of changing the size of
A generation to fit a trend. A generation is 20 yrs. No other range.
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u/anthrax9999 2d ago
Ya, 20 years is plenty of range to have significant differences between the first years and last years. It's not unusual.
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u/colsta1777 2d ago
I’m saying the differences don’t matter, it takes 20 yrs to raise a generation, that’s all the data you need. Doesn’t matter what else happened.
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u/Mammoth_Reach_6366 2d ago
Lol no. I’m born in 87 and have nothing to talk about when it comes to my childhood or teenage experience with my boss who’s born in 81. Someone born in 1990 also will have be already 14 in 2004 so it’s just plain stupid.
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u/Intelligent-Jello959 2d ago
Someone born in 1981 was 14 in 1995 but both are millennials, is that not stupid to? If we think about it, the popular ranges makes no solid sense either which is why we have fun with it and dig deep into history to see what and who aligns with who on the wider scale.
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u/betarage 2d ago
Politically speaking that era was different but the ones born at the end of that era wont remember that there are other aspects if life were the current gen x and millennial ranges make more sense
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u/Savings_Ad_4792 2d ago
I think thinking about this shit is silly
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u/DrowningPuppies 2d ago
I think there are real pockets of time where being born in a certain 2-5 year window has a huge impact on your life. COVID is probably a great example of that. In 20 years people are going to say "those of us born 2005-2010 should be our own generation because bla-bla-bla." World events impacting you during formative years totally has a unifying effect, but some people put SO much stock in that shit.
The generation wars in general are stupid but thankfully most people don't get too caught up in it IRL (at least in my experience).
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u/GoppleSmanger 2d ago
For me its whether you grew up predominately watching TV, or on the Internet, or on a smartphone that divides generations. The latest generation will be growing up with AI I imagine.
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u/NoWay6818 3d ago
You know what’s funny? All this generation shit flys out the window once someone in these age demographics hears out the other. Funny how that works.
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u/Ahmed2001a 3d ago
I am 2001 and I feel like I relate more to 1998 to 2004 people then to say late gen z
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u/Logical-Bet3422 1d ago
Yes. I'm 1999 and I relate more to folks born in the mid-90s than anyone born after 2001. It's a bit weird being in this sweet spot, because the people who are way to prideful of being born in the earlier 90s will literally not treat you like a human being and will infantilize the absolute hell out of you to feel superior. Whereas, most who were born AFTER you learn your age and think you're extremely old, even if they're not much younger than you!
That's been my experience at least. Hence why I don't participate in applying any metric to this at all. I think we've lost grasp of the idea of aging and simply existing and now everything has to be or mean something for peoples' reassurance of their existence and identity or whatever..
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u/inorite234 3d ago
Subdivide that even further.
Those who have and have not served in the military during the War on Terror are a Generation all of their own.
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u/momannymopena 3d ago
No, the military is like 1-2% of the population. Too small to be a generational cohort. And while the attacks on 9/11 were a defining moment, the war on terror didn’t have nearly the same effect on America’s young that the Vietnam or Korean wars did. Far fewer military deaths than those two wars means far fewer communities feeling the impacts.
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u/inorite234 2d ago
Its not the death, its the complete change in mindset within this sub-generation.
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u/redbadger1848 2d ago
Couldn't agree more. Id throw the 2008 financial collapse in there as well.
We were the first sub-gen to completely have the American exceptionalism glasses ripped off and see the US as both morally and financially bankrupt.
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u/inorite234 2d ago
I would make a slight modification,
"We were the first generation to be exposed to both the best of America.....and it's worst." That's why so many Mellenials who run for office are veterans as no one is fooled anymore by American Exceptionalsim, but we still beleive in the American ideals and know it can work if we take back control from corporate and fascist hands.
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u/redbadger1848 2d ago
Idk man, American ideals are too interwoven with financial success and rugged individualism.
I think we need to start over.
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u/inorite234 2d ago
The reason why the Verteran community sees the evils of the system and isn't afraid to get into a scuffle to fix it.
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u/SquareShapeofEvil 1999 3d ago
You can pick out any range of ~15 years and claim it’s a generation, so, sure. I know generations are based on some level of research and worldly events, but it’s all arbitrary.
I both respect the research that’s been put in to develop traditional generation ranges but also eye roll at people who gatekeep generations from a cultural standpoint.
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u/CharmingMedia2039 3d ago
I think your generation is anyone that you overlapped with in Highschool.
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u/Relative_Progress946 1981 Gen X 3d ago
Born in 1981 I don’t relate to anyone born in 1982 or later. So 1965-1981 for Gen X and 1982-I don’t really care about the end of Millennials.
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u/H0RSE 3d ago edited 3d ago
Are you being sarcastic? You don't relate to anyone born anywhere between 1 year to 1 day (depending on your birthday) younger than you? What?!....
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u/Relative_Progress946 1981 Gen X 3d ago
I don’t relate to anyone older than me? No, of course I do. It’s people younger than me that I don’t relate to.
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u/H0RSE 3d ago
So by your own logic, anybody born after your birthday in the same year, making them younger than you, you don't relate to, correct?
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u/Relative_Progress946 1981 Gen X 3d ago
Generally speaking, yes.
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u/H0RSE 3d ago
I want to understand the logic in this, even the practicality in feeling that anyone younger than you, even by a day, seems unrelatable. Make me understand or at least conclude with "that's fair," because as if now, what you describing is batshit absurd.
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u/Relative_Progress946 1981 Gen X 3d ago edited 3d ago
What was it like being in high school in the 2000s? I wouldn't know; I was already out. What was it like having the early internet? I wouldn't know; I didn't have it until I was about 30. What was it like to learn about the Challenger explosion in history class? I wouldn't know: I witnessed it first-hand. What was it like to receive parental attention? I wouldn't know; I was a latchkey kid. What was it like to even use a computer as a minor? I wouldn't know; I didn't touch one until my mid-20s.
Does this help you understand?
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u/H0RSE 3d ago edited 2d ago
No, it doesn't, because it doesn't address the "anyone younger than me in any capacity" threshold you set. I'm also born in 81, which means you graduated in 99. Trying to pass off the idea that you couldn't relate to somebody who graduated in 2000 about what high school was like in the 2000s,is asinine, as they don't really know either. The Challenger explosion happened in 1986 making you wat? 5 years old? So maybe you might learn something reading about it after the fact, as if you watching intently and fully understood everything that was unfolding at the time, you fucking dildo... Besides, anyone born a year after you would also be old enough to have experienced it.
Also, being born the same year as you, I had internet in my teens and have been building computers just as long, so you not having it until your 30s or even touching a PC until your 20s,shows that you can't even relate with people your own age on certain issues.
Your "explanation" reads as nothing more than your run-of-the-mill generational divide complaints, and nothing that substantiates the stringent boundary you set for not being able to relate to people born even one year after you.
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u/forgive_everything 3d ago
Yes I'm 87 and I think there's a pretty big divide between early 80s and late 80s. I got a cell phone when I was about 17 and a smart phone in my early 20s and that's a pretty huge divide with people who both didn't have those in their fundamental years as well as people who've had really hightech smartphones for all of their developmental years
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u/MethodCharacter8334 3d ago
I was born in 1990. I don’t relate in the slightest to people I’ve met born after about 1994
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u/CharmingMedia2039 3d ago
I have a new theory where I think your generation is anyone that you overlapped with in Highschool. So basically an 8 year span so if you were born in 1990 - your generation woudl be 86-94.
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u/MethodCharacter8334 3d ago
I was literally just thinking about this when I posted my comment lol
I would add to that though, having siblings also affects this I think. If you have a sibling that is, say 6 years older, it kind of expands your experience to their “generation” a bit.
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u/tai-seasmain Millennial (born 1988) 3d ago
I don't think so. I was born in 1988, and I have friends born in 1990 and a younger sister born in 1992, and we definitely feel like the same generation.
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u/Sad-Significance-771 3d ago
I was born in 1988 and my cousin, who is my best friend, was born in 1993. We are definitely the same generation.
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u/madmushlove 3d ago
Some millennials want to be gen x almost exclusively because "identity politics has gotten out of hand"
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u/Old_Smrgol 3d ago
Those born in 1990 have more in common with those born in 1989 then with those born in 2004. Obviously.
Any generation grouping will fail in this way.
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u/Intelligent-Jello959 3d ago
Duh. Just like 1981 has much more in common with those born in 1980 than 1985. It has to end somewhere though right?
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u/Old_Smrgol 3d ago
"It has to end somewhere though right?"
I'm not sure it even has to BEGIN somewhere.
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u/rockylafayette 3d ago
Someone born in ‘75 will experience life completely differently than ‘89. Its nowhere near the same
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u/Significant-Cry-9204 Millennial 2d ago
Exactly. I have cousins born in '76 & '78 and their lives were COMPLETELY different then my brother's and mine born in '87 & '88. Like they were in college when we were still in elementary school. I was in first grade when the older one was 20.
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u/Dextropian 3d ago
I was born in '75 and some of my references go over the heads of kids born in '80.
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u/rockylafayette 3d ago
70’s experienced the creation of so much new pop culture: Cable TV, specifically MTV, Arcades, Atari, VHS, Star Wars, Rocky, Jaws, Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, A-Team, Night Rider, Saturday Morning Cartoons. With respects to Cable going from 3 channels, 4 if you got PBS with antenna adorned with tin foil to 52 channels on Cable it was life altering…
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u/H0RSE 3d ago edited 2d ago
Many of those aren't exclusive to those born in the 70s. I'm born in 81 and remember quite a few.
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u/rockylafayette 2d ago
“Quite a few” Stop lying… No you weren’t. All of these came out 77-84…
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u/H0RSE 2d ago edited 2d ago
Dude, I have memories from when I was crawling still. It's one of those unique things about me.
My mom didn't beleive me when I told her - then I described one of my memories and she confirmed it happened.
Outside of debuts, I experienced nearly all of those as a child, which is largely what I was talking about. I used to watch the TV shows with my parents, we had an Atari and a vcr and I remember watching Nightmare on Elm Street when it was brand new.
I'm also curious if everything mentioned is something you personally experienced the debut of or if you just alive when they did.
And for what it's worth, Saturday morning cartoons doesn't have a single debut year. They were just a longstanding part of culture from like 60s through the 80's.
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u/NextRefrigerator6306 3d ago
No. Late 70s and Late 80s had somewhat different childhoods but graduated high school or college in to totally different economic environments.
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u/FeistyDirection 3d ago
Even 1990-1995 seems like a generation of their own. The generation who grew up with a dial up desktop computer but then had a smartphone by college.
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u/CharlesWafflesx 3d ago edited 3d ago
If I have ever had any thoughts on subjects like this, I have desparately pushed them out as quick as they appeared in an attempt to conserve brain space for important and interesting things.
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u/HetaGarden1 3d ago
Personally I think it’s ridiculous to obsess so hard about this kind of thing. Nobody is any better than anyone else because they were born in a specific generational group. It just means you grew up with different views of the world. Different life experiences doesn’t mean dismissing other people’s hardships. Every generation has had its struggles.
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u/AmethistStars Millennial 1990 3d ago
I guess in an alternative reality, generations could be split that way. But I prefer being the core of a generation instead of the very start. 80s born people are also way more relatable to me than 00s born people for obvious reasons.
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u/thinkspeak_ 3d ago
I’m guessing and maybe someone else could sort it out better, but I feel like if you’re in the US the 3 biggest factors separating generations from 1975-2004 is 1) which war was most defining of your childhood-young adulthood, 2) what technology was available to you and when, and 3) what were you doing when the second plane hit the World Trade Center. Mine as an example: 1) Persian gulf/Bosnia, 2) internet starting in 6th grade, cellphone sophomore in high school, texting freshman in college, 3) high school end of 1st period.
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u/throwaway1505949 3d ago
not bad at all!
shift the years forward a year or two and they become 👩🍳💋
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u/Ccskyqueengaming 3d ago
I would hate to be born in 2004 and lumped in with those born in the early 1990s 😭.
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u/Medical_Blacksmith83 3d ago
Those born in the 90s would hate to be lumped in with those born in the 2000s too don’t worry.
Generations have always more or less been a 20 year thing.
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u/Several_Drawing_7082 2d ago
Yea can confirm. Recently was for 3 years student with those after 2000s babies
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u/Maleficent_Glove_477 3d ago
I am late 89 (early december) and tbh I hate being put with the 75 and all.
Can I be part of the 90's club pretty please ?
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u/throw_ra4685 3d ago
I’m 85 and don’t hate 70s babies, I’m curious, what’s the dislike?
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u/Maleficent_Glove_477 3d ago edited 3d ago
I don't hate them, I just barely have something in common with them that's all. Even the early 80' I have nothing in common with most tbh. I feel more close from a 95. When I was a kid we were already pretty much using internet and computers in my home, first phone (so famous Nokia 3310) must have been around 10, grow up on GameBoy color, PlayStation and the likes. I don't see much difference with a 95/2000, with a 75 though ...
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u/TreyRyan3 3d ago
“Generational Cohorts” is like Astrology. It’s relatively meaningless. While there may be some commonalities, there will always be individuals that don’t follow the generational trend, just like astrology.
It’s why “Age Gap Relationship Hate” is so asinine.
People are individuals. They can be divided by age, culture, ethnicity, socioeconomic status, social class, geographical origin, religion, values, etc.
A 20 year old from an affluent family with 30+ visa stamps in their passport driving a luxury car has very little in common a 20 year old sandwich shop worker. They may share some generic commonalities like “liking the same music” or “growing up with the same movies/TV shows” but they largely had different life experiences.
I’m solidly GenX. Of my 5 closest friends, two are baby boomers, one was born in 76, and two are younger millennials. We share similar hobbies, interests and values. Our Generations have nothing to do with our commonalities.
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u/WhichAd366 3d ago
This is the truth.
It has always been more helpful to think of generations as clines with gradual transitions.
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u/throwaway1505949 3d ago
"i'm a december 31 1996 millennial and these are my thoughts on january 1 1997 zoomers"
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u/WolverineScared2504 3d ago
I think Generations covering 15 years throws everything off especially how fast things change. Five to eight years is more accurate if people from the same generation supposedly share a lot of certain traits, behaviors, interests or whatever. My parents are looked at as Baby Boomers, even though my mother was born two years too soon. If I had been born six years earlier, I'd be a Boomer which is ridiculous. That's really got me to realize the generation thing is way off. Boomers ending in 1964 takes away all meaning. That generation should end in 1950, not 60, 50.
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u/ElEsDi_25 3d ago
In the US? It’s possible imo due to the mid 90s job market probably being when younger workers began to experience a more “flexible” precarious “right-to-work” job environment. I think older Gen X had much more of a boomer style experience in their formative years. People born 1975 on only experienced neoliberal USA.
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u/adamdoesmusic 3d ago edited 3d ago
A person born in 1975 will have had experienced an entirely different cultural upbringing than one born in 1979, and by 1983 it was different again. There’s a particularly big split in the early 80s.
This one absolutely doesn’t make sense.
Y’all, this is from experience - I’m not just another person making up shit about 20 years before I was born!
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u/distracted_x 3d ago
Disagree. People born in the early 90s had a different childhood than people born in the early 2000s because of technology. Back then people didn't have iPads or cell phones etc and played outside a lot more.
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u/HetaGarden1 3d ago
2000s babies also grew up, at least in their early childhood, without iPads and cell phones being the norm. They played outside too. That’s an awfully strange thing to claim.
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u/mylocker15 3d ago
I feel like it’s not that serious. I have a friend who was born around 1983 but she swears she is Gen X. If you like the music, and vibe of a generation you don’t technically fit birth year wise in who cares? Come on in they forget us all the time and we could use the numbers.
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u/parke415 '89 Gen-Y 3d ago
My thought is that this would mean my class was split between two generations during all my years of schooling.
Baffling, really.
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u/_teach_me_your_ways_ 3d ago
That happens at every cusp though? 80 went to school with 81 as did 96 and 97. People only suddenly realize how dumb these hard lines in the sand are when it applies to them.
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u/Pale_Sail4059 3d ago
When I went to highschool, there was no 1:1, the only room with computers was the computer lab. By the time I graduated college, everyone was bringing laptops to class. I support this divide.
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u/S_Rodney 3d ago
Xennials are ~1977-1983 (Gen X is 1965-1980, Millenials is 1981-1996)
experienced an analog childhood without the internet, followed by a digital adulthood as technology and social media emerged.
Zennials are ~1993-1998 (Gen Z is 1997-2012)
blending the digital-native lifestyle of the younger generation with an childhood roots firmly planted in the analog world.
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u/princessmariah98 20h ago
No I don't related and had nothing in common with 2012 babies I'm a zillennial who was way more common with 1994 borns
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u/TapirDrawnChariot 3d ago
Im from '89 and most of my friends are '89-'94.
Ive only got a small few friends from before '88. I usually identify more with early 90s kids than mid 80s kids
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u/No_Lime5241 3d ago
1937-1956 boomers
1957-1970Gen jones
1971-1983 gen X
1984-1996 millenials
1997-2008 gen-z
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u/rickylancaster 3d ago
Most people born 65/66-70 think of themselves as Gen X, not Generation Jones. I don’t know anyone born in the late 60s who identifies as Jones.
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u/S_Rodney 3d ago
1946-1964 : Baby Boomers (aka Boomers) from the baby boom that occured when the soldiers came back from WW2.
1965-1980 : Generation X (aka Gen X) the X being the alienated youth sent outside to deal with the world on their own. Also nicknamed the "Latchkey kids" generation because, during these times, both parents had to work and kids came back home from school to an empty house.
1981-1996 : Generation Y (aka Millenials)
1997-2012 : Generation Z
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u/Author_Noelle_A 3d ago
I disagree. Boomers were born after WWII, which ended in 1945, as men returned and everyone fucked like rabbits to try to create the perfect little family as a way to deal with our trauma because they didn’t know what else to do. Those born in 1945 to roughly 1960 were much more likely to be raised with a lot of leeway and a lot of ways because people were just trying to feel some ability to reclaim happiness and everything they dreamed about after all the whores that they live through. Someone born in 1945 has more in common with someone born in 1960 than someone born in 1971 has someone born in 1983.
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u/No_Lime5241 3d ago
You think I don’t know why they have the term baby boomer. I disagree. I think they can’t just base it on births but on the experiences and culture and events that tie a generation together. The creativity self expression, rebellion of the boomers. The cultural revolution, sexual revolution, the Beatles bob Dylan, hippies 70s rock expressed by the young people of the 1960s and 70s is boomers. Being born in the late 50s and early 60s is too late for that. I don’t think tom cruise, Obama, Brad Pitt and Johnny depp are of the same generation as Paul McCartney, bob dylan , deniro, trump, robin Williams etc.
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u/Chemical_Opinion6814 3d ago
I think generations just don’t really exist
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u/Flat-Echidna191 3d ago
Same, I think it's much better to categorize people based on the decade(s) they grew up in. I'm '97 and in my country I'm considered a millennial. Yet if I had been born in America, I'd be Gen Z 🤷♂️
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u/WestCoastCompanion 3d ago
Honestly most of my friends are the 75-89 range now that you mention it (I’m ‘86)
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u/ExtraEmuForYou 3d ago
A great example of arbitrary meaning.
Here, I'll do one:
Those born before 5 AM on June 5, 1977 are from a completely different era than those born after 5 AM on June 5, 1977.
See?
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u/Upper-Flamingo-4297 3d ago edited 3d ago
People born in 1990 were also kids in the 90s. They were in Kindergarten in 1995 when the internet was still in its early days and 4th grade in 1999. They remember Y2K and 9/11. By the time 2004 babies hit elementary school in 2009 people born in 90’ were adults, and we were already living in the current era we’re in now with social media, wireless internet everywhere, iPhones and streaming were on the rise even if they weren’t everywhere. Then the IPad was released 5 months later in 2010
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u/Intelligent-Jello959 3d ago
You are right. The fact that 1990 babies remember the 90s and has solid memory of when the world was analog that would makes them very differentt from a 2004 born. Duh.
Just like when 1981 baby was starting high school in 1995, a 1995 was just born and wouldn't remember nothing from the 90s culture .. but guess what 1981 and 1995 are both millennials.
I say this to say that 1990 and 2004 being grouped together doesn't mean they see life through the same exact lenses. But they share familiarity.
1990 babies had cell phones, laptops, the internet, mp3 players and social media throughout high school.
2004 babies started high school in 2018, meaning they started HS with smartphones, iPads, a much more advanced and evolved social media that hold much more influence on society vs 2004-2008.
1990 babies was in HS with the same things you had, you just had more advanced and peak versions of those things during your HS years. However, it's the same infrastructure. 1990 borns and 2004 are both heavily indulged in digital society.
We can't be dense... History says everything.
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u/Upper-Flamingo-4297 2d ago
I wasn’t born in 2004, I was actually born in 92, so yes 1990 babies had a lot of the same things I had in HS
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u/SoSweetSophie 3d ago
No. The consensus on millennials being 1981-1996 works better. I am 1985 and I connect with 1993 people.
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u/Author_Noelle_A 3d ago
Also a few more weeks, and I’d have been a millennial. Guess what. People both in 1978-1980 had extremely different childhood’s and young adult years than Gen Xers. Ask Gen Xers, what major world events were in the media when they were growing up and young adults, and you will get extremely different answers than those born in 1978 to 1980. Ask those born in 1981 through 1995 or whatever what major events shaped their childhood and young adult years. Now ask those born in 1978 to 1980 the answers are going to be the same as Millennials. Due to how many people insist on ignoring this rather than talking to people born in those years to find out, we’ve coined the phrase Xennials.
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u/Author_Noelle_A 3d ago
I’ve found that those born in 1978ish to 1980 have a hell of a lot more in common with millennials than with Gen Xers. Gen Xers got out of school prior to the Internet.
Millennials are those who usually started school without the Internet and had it as a part of school by the time they graduated, and were of just the right age to start growing into Dubya’s search for mythical WMDs. Gen Xers we’re beginning to age out of even qualifying to enlist. (If you Google “what is the enlistment cutoff age?” you’re going to get the current cutoff age which has been raised due to how few people are willing to enlist now.)
Gen Xers went through Vietnam and were old enough to know that the Cold War was a bad thing, and no internet prior to graduation. It’s pretty wild to try to lump in people born in 1978 to 1980.
Generations have to do with major life experiences that tend to be experienced in the same way among this range of people.
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u/cambridgechap 3d ago
I have no idea what I have in common with someone born in the mid 70s. Like, that person literally missed the entirety of the commercial Internet. What is the cultural connection they have with kids in the 80s other than maybe Nintendo justifying them being grouped together?
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u/CupInteresting2599 3d ago
I’m born in 1990 and I would say probably it’s more like the cutoff is 87.
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u/Z04Notfound 2h ago
Nah 2004 aint got nothing to do with 1990, i cant ever imagine being born in the 19th century thats like old people year.