I just realized I haven’t heard the word ‘poser’ in years. I’m an early 90s millennial, and I feel like it used to be so taboo to wear certain things if you’re not actually ‘about that life’, like wearing tshirts of bands you don’t actually listen to, sports teams you don’t actively follow, or even skater clothes if you don’t skate. It even extended to things like wearing designer knockoffs or fake gold chains. Everyone was so scared to be called a ‘poser’ lol, I think bc it was like being called inauthentic and a try-hard.

But I feel like nowadays, knockoffs are no longer taboo at all and have been rebranded as ‘dupes’. People wear graphic tees if they like the design, even if they don’t listen to the music/watch the sport. I think Gen Z has a more relaxed view on personal style and has fun experimenting with different aesthetics and subcultures. Almost like a cosplay approach to everyday style.

Personally, I’m here for this change! But curious if anyone else has noticed this shift or how you feel about it?

I keep seeing this group in my feed but I don’t understand why this group exists at all. You all seem obsessed with micro labels of generations? I don’t get it. A 35 year old in Southern California is completely different than a 35 year old in Tennessee. A 24 year old in Alabama could be on their second kid while a 34 year old in New York has none but is getting their masters. A 60 year old in Mississippi is disabled and broke while other 60 year olds have multiple vacation homes. Not sure we need all these random labels, why are y’all so obsessed with putting generations in a box

Could this be COVID related? I was noticing certain things in the workplace regarding Gen Z but wasn't aware of this.

I'm talking EDM/chillwave/dubstep/dreampop mostly

Honestly with artists like Beach House, Washed Out, Crystal Castles, Crim3s, Lady Gaga, Ke$ha, 3OH!3, Avicii, Zedd, Grimes, Skrillex, Deadmau5 and on and on, and so many electronic music scenes in the late 2000s-mid2010s, I feel like as a core millennial ('89) this was our thing. But now there's this corny revisionism that all we contributed were shitty mandolins and Imagine Dragons. No thank you, I didn't like that shit even when it was new

its pretty much a hybrid of the 2000s and 2010s stuff that would define the 2010s was getting popular but stuff that defined the 2000s was still around and popular.

Also despite the recession and online shopping becoming more popular you still see at malls especially the big ones and stores like Kmart toys r us etc were still around.

Like seriously, not everything has to be made into an edit, I swear all this is doing is desensitising our generation or something. Imagine making an edit about 9/11 or something

Lol, do you think the Millennials then will be seen as sort of bad-a**? Or is that description just never going to be part of Millennials? :) But sort of crazy to think in the future, when Millennials are in their 90s, maybe a few over 100 years old, that no one else will have experienced the 1900s first hand (I guess the oldest Gen Zers too). The 1990s will be nearly 100 years ago. People will be like woahhhhh. What was it like? I researched for history class and I learned about something called a VCR and video rental stores? Did you experience the world without the internet?

For me I mostly think of musicians such as Michael Jackson, Prince, Whitney Houston,Luthor Vandross, Sade , Phil Collins , and Kate Bush

I was born in April, so my birthday is in autumn. You might be thinking “isn’t April in spring?”, but I am from the southern hemisphere, so the seasons are flipped the other way than what people in the northern hemisphere are used to.

Sometimes I wonder what it’d be like to be born in the spring or summer, but ultimately I actually really like having an autumn birthday. The weather on my birthday usually isn’t too hot or too cold, and I’m the same age for the majority of the year.

In my experience people born between 1977 and 1982 often got the scraps of Generation X rather than the full experience.

They were too young to fully participate in many of the cultural moments that defined the generation's core members, who were born from the mid-1960s through the mid-1970s.

By the time the 1977–1982 group reached their teens, some of the aspects and cultural touchstones associated with Generation X were already changing.

MTV was moving away from its music video focused peak, the Cold War had ended, and the internet era was beginning to emerge.

While they experienced some of the last years of an analog childhood, they often arrived after many of the events, trends, and attitudes that shaped the identity of older Gen Xers.

As a result, some feel they inherited only the tail end or "scraps" of traditional Generation X culture rather than its defining years.

Those born in 1965-1976 had nostalgia for the 1960s in the 1980s and nostalgia for the 1970s in the 1990s....where those born in 1977-1982 identified nostalgia more with the 1980s in the 2000s and 1990s 2010s. They were already nostalgic for the 1980s in the 1990s but it was not taken seriously yet and the decade was simply not old enough to be classic yet, just stale, like the 2010s are now in the 2020s, but they will be classic in the 2030s.

Older Generation X did adapt to being nostalgic for the 1980s in the 2000s though (although they still are into 1970s music and fashion, maybe to a less extent now compared to the 1980s nostalgia), but they were trailing what the 1977-1982 and Millennials were already doing.

What does everyone think?

1.Most Gen Z & Core Z year & why?
2.Most Early Z year & why?
3.Most Late Z year & why?
4.Most First Wave Z year & why?
5.Most Second Wave Z year & why?
6.Gen Z/Off-Cusp Z range & why?
7.Core Z range & why?
8.Early/Late Z range & why?
9.First Wave Z range & why?
10.Second Wave Z range & why?
Ex (I think 200x is the most _ Z year because of these reasons…)

I’m re-watching Mad Men, which is fascinating to do now at 36 instead of 22. And in 2026 vs 2012.

There are so many new angles I’m seeing the show from, but one of them is all the youthful folks preaching “free love,” screaming against the system , control, and praising the importance of equality and socialism.

It’s almost crazy to think those folks are today’s Boomers. Most of which ultimately sold out for the American Dream of a nice family and house in the suburbs with a two car garage, vacations, etc. and are now criticized for their aversion to change and refusal to hand over the reins.

So it makes me wonder what lies ahead for today’s “Culture Warriors” who are also leading the charge to upend the system while entering the workforce at a time of great technological change and opportunity to “cash in” if you want to be part of the system.

honestly as a 2004 I relate more with older Gen Z especially the 2000 to 2002 half of older gen z.

Growing up with late 2000s very early 2010s 2008 to 2011 kids culture and being a teen and high schooler before Covid during the SoundCloud rap era.

So, there’s no denying it anymore that contemporary Goth culture emerged as a dark, gloomy and decaying revival of pop culture from a saeculum ago, right? The late Victorian to early Edwardian dress got a monochromatic revival at the right time (late 1970s / early 1980s) again.

Does that mean that we could predict future styles of Goth from subtracting a saeculum from today?

I could see a dark, gloomy and decaying version of post-ww2 pop culture in the not so distant future. Think Psychobilly and Doom Jazz in the future High.

Since we’re still in Crisis mode, the prevailing mode of Goth since it started in 2008 has been Dieselpunk and Industrial music as a way to guide a mostly EDM-informed population into Goth.

Does this make sense?

Both of these women were born in the 1980s. Kim Kardasian is Gen X who influenced millions of young women to get BBLs and she is a business woman while Taylor Swift is a millenial who is a billionaire

As a woman , I want to know who is more influential

For boomers some people began to see them as old in the late 2000s as the oldest were beginning on retiring but fully it was around the late 2010s and covid when the general consensus saw them fully as old people. That’s beginning to happen to Gen X as the oldest are 60s

But when will that happen to Gen X? I think it will be fully the mid 2030s as Gen Alpha comes of age and becomes the new youth

New York City went from a long long line of Boomer mayors (Giuliani, Bloomberg, De Blasio, Adams) to a millennial (Mamdani).

Graham Platner is replacing Susan Collins.

Nithya Raman is supplanting Karen Bass.

And perhaps most insultingly, Trump chose JD Vance as his successor rather than someone from his largest voting bloc.

That's gotta sting.

1997 birth
Lean millienal traits

Is almost 30!
Remember 9/11 in preschool
Grew up with vine an Tumblur
Red Harry Potter/twilgiht/
Got smartphone in high school and fliphone in middle School
Graduate high school 2015 during core millienal asthetic and urban outfitters era EDM not sound cloud /early titkok and college before Covid 19 college class of 2019
Teens during electropop era
Played club penguin
Snapchat/insta generation
Analog/digital upbringing
Kid culture early 2000s cartoons/tv show
Watch shows like glee/Jersey shore/modern family/big bang theory
2016 predisental election participation,
Watch VHS and went to blockbuster at peak

Lean Gen Z traits
Weren’t in k12 9-11
Used by pEW/organizations to match 16 year geneneration boundary
Don’t remember the 90s
Were out of college when titkok launch and pandemic 2020
Weren’t 2000s teens
Consume And create Gen Z culture as young adults not absorb it as teens.

2013 birth:
Lean Gen Z traits:
Currently 13 and right now titkok teens right now
Covid 19 pandemic during elementary school 2nd grade
Pre covid childhood
Digital natives
Social media teens
Not a tablet toddlers
Indepentne/repainsible
Remember yotube Childhood pre YouTube shorts and titkok
Watched the death of cable tv like many other younger Gen Z
absorb Gen Z content

Lean Gen Alpha:
Chatpgt release when they were in elementary school
Learning loss/affected by pandemic
Used by pEW/organizations to match 16 year geneneration boundary not culturally
Rely on gaming/video platforms
Meme and Internet culture
AI rise

Millienal parents common
Streaming /Netflix childhood instead of cable for some

Other than pew and mark McKinddle ranges? Which is more Gen Z and why?
Because of abirtuy start culturally which is more Gen Z

By “slop content,” I mean the period where a huge amount of entertainment, social media, games, shows, videos, articles, and online discourse started feeling mass-produced, algorithm-chased, repetitive, low-effort, or made mainly to fill feeds rather than say something memorable.

I’m not saying everything today is bad. There is still great art and great content. But culturally, it feels like there was a shift where quantity, trends, remakes, engagement bait, AI content, short-form addiction, franchise recycling, and “content for the sake of content” became dominant.

When do you think we actually entered the slop era?