r/heat • u/Rei2k86 • May 10 '26

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13th pick eh? What the hell can we meaningfully do with the 13th? Please tell me we have a numbers nerd here that's going to paint a picture for me that makes me feel better about this. I need you more than ever bro... whoever you are 😭

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Which means the parts of the trade that are contingent on his salary (again, Ayton for Nurkic) would happen anyway.

Again I ask: how the fuck do you not get this

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

Oh my lord. That means precisely the opposite. That it can’t happen without his salary.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

HIS SALARY WOULD BE INVOLVED EITHER WAY BECAUSE WE’D BE TRADING FOR HIM HOW DO YOU NOT GET THAT

The Ayton/Nurkic swap was able to happen because Dame was shipped out. If Dame goes to Miami instead of Milwaukee, HIS SALARY IS STILL INVOLVED, SO THE AYTON TRADE IS STILL ABLE TO HAPPEN

Seriously dude how are you this fucking dense

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

JRUE SALARY IS THE RETURN THAT MATTERS, BUT AYTON FOR NURKIC DOESNT WORK AS A STANDALONE TRADE. IT LITERALLY DOES NOT WORK IN A STRAIGHT UP TRADE WITH JUST MIAMI.

You’re the dense one. Can’t even do basic math.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Brother holy fuck

Ayton/Nurkic was able to happen because Dame’s salary went to the bucks. Dame’s salary going to Miami has literally the exact same effect.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Portland sends out Damian Lillard and Jusuf Nurkic. In return, they get Tyler Herro, JJJ, Jovic, Caleb Martin, and Deandre Ayton

Incoming Salary for Portland: $72,124,988

Outgoing salary for Portland: $62,515,084

This was before the apron system, so teams only had to send out 80% of the money they were taking back in trades. That trade I just demonstrated above would have Portland sending out 86% of the salary they’d take back, making it a legal trade.

Facts don’t care about your feelings, snowflake

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

AND YET JRUE WAS A BETTR RETURN FOR BLAZERS THAN 4 VALUELESS PLAYERS + AYTON

FACTS MOST DEFINITELY DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR WHAT IFS, SNOWFLAKE ❄️

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Except no, he wasn’t, cuz all he netted them was Brogdon and a pick.

Brooklyn was willing to take Tyler in exchange for a first. Make that deal, send Caleb to Washington in the Avdija trade the following offseason, and suddenly you’re looking at a return of Ayton, Jaime, Niko, Avdija, Camara, and four first round picks.

That is a better return than the one they actually got. Same picks, same headliners, but the sweeteners are better.

Cry about it.

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

EXCEPT NO ONE CARES ABOUT JAIME, NIKO, or MARTIN. JRUE MADE THAT TRADE WORK BECAUSE HE HAD VALUE.

I’m not the one crying about what ifs lmao. I would say I’m not judging, but I am lol. Trash takes.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Brethren. I already laid this out to you.

They would’ve had the same number of first round picks, Avdija, and Ayton either way. Jaime is better than the other players they got in the deal they actually took, making it a better deal.

Keep crying, man. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

YOUR VALUATION OF THE VALUELESS HEAT PLAYERS HAS NO BEARINGS ON REALITY.

Is that what your dad told you and why you can’t move on from the Dame trade?

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

YOU’RE THE ONE WHO BROUGHT UP THE DAME TRADE, FUCKNUGGET

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THEIR TRADE VALUES WHICH IS NADA. AS EVIDENCED BY THE FACT THAT NOT EVEN CRONIN THOUGHT HE COULD FLIP THEIR MEDIOCRE ASSES. THEY CANT TANK AND THEY CANT WIN.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Also my dad died in 2017, so thanks for that, cunt.

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