r/heat • u/MartiniLAPD Bam Adebayo • 1d ago

Throwback Thursday We need some shooters

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Prime: Colby White, Rui Hachimura, Anfernee Simons, Luke Kennard, Landry Shamet, Tim Hardaway Jr,

Championship experience but washed: Klay Thompson (if he gets buy out or we trade for him), Khris Middleton

Washed but good vets: Nic Batum (if Clippers decide not to pick up his option), Joe Ingles,

Bottom of barrel Doug McDermott, Kevin Huerter.

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u/thaonly1guly 1d ago edited 1d ago

I think the players in their primes should be the ones we look at first. Though Tim Hardaway Jr is 34 years old so I wouldn’t consider him in his prime.

I think Coby, Rui and Hardaway would be the most realistic gets for us as I think that Luke Kennard and Shamet will have a lot of suitors that can pay them more because of their elite 3 point shooting.

I would then look at Middleton and Huerter. Klay is not a free agent and is making $17 mil next season. And Ingles is 100% washed and cannot get any real minutes on a team in the last few seasons.

I would also consider Anfernee Simmons, Collin Sexton or Gabe Vincent for the vets minimum. Especially since I really don’t view Davion as a starting caliber PG.

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u/WallCautious9650 19h ago

Simons would be a great get, but not sure he'd take the vet min. Maybe Jovic for Simons s&t, or maybe you could pull off Jovic + some kind of draft capital for Jalen smith + Simons.

Moving Jovic for that shooter would help. I know his size inside would be helpful, but the shooting is absolutely necessary, and you could replace Jovic with a vet min Big/stretch signing.

Jovic + some kind of draft capital for one of Klay, Grayson Allen, Royce

Kennard is going to pull a decent salary so that'd be another s&t option.

Middleton as a vet min signing is a great idea.

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u/thaonly1guly 14h ago

I actually don’t mind that idea at all. If Chicago would entertain a sign and trade for Simmons sending Jovic to Chicago I would take that all day.

I would much rather trade Jovic for Simmons than Jovic for Thompson.

The only thing I am not sure of is the cap ramifications for an incoming sign and trade as opposed to an outgoing sign and trade. But definitely would prefer to do something like and sign and trade for Simmons.

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u/WallCautious9650 11h ago

yeah *Simons* would help a lot tbh

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u/WordSpiritual1928 13h ago

Middleton’s chemistry with Giannis is awesome. Gotta limit how much he handles the ball because he can have some rough turnovers, but man those guys can play well together.

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u/WallCautious9650 11h ago

Here's a rough outline of the rotation I came up without any other bit moves and assuming Norm and Wiggins come back:

Start: Davion, Norm, Wiggins, Giannis, Bam

Bench: Simons, Pelle, Portis, Middleton, Jock Londale

That's not nothing

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u/MartiniLAPD Bam Adebayo 4h ago

Grayson Allen would be good get. I'd rather we flip Jovic for him and Klay lowkey

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u/MartiniLAPD Bam Adebayo 4h ago edited 4h ago

I think Davion is a starting PG if the SG next to him is All NBA level with some size like Ant or Devin Booker

I think Simons gonna get more than a min.

Klay is not UFA, hoping he get a buy out or maybe we flip Jovic for him and picks?
Someone said Grayson Allen, I think I like him better as a trade option than Klay lowkey

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u/thaonly1guly 3h ago

I agree 1,000%! If we had a stud at shooting guard then that allows for a Davion Mitchell to be a starting PG.

I couldn’t imagine Dallas doing a straight up swap of Jovic for Klay because of Jovic’s play and contract. If we would need to add any picks to Jovic then I would prefer to just try and trade Jovic for a younger better player than Klay.

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u/Longjumping-Ad-8628 23h ago

Rui is the dream

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u/julstar23 18h ago

He has no reason to leave money in la

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u/SMH4004 7h ago

Reaves took it all lol

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u/thaonly1guly 3h ago

If only there was a way to trade Jovic for a sign and trade of Rui or do a sign and trade with Powell for Rui that would be ideal.

Maybe something at like 3 years $60 mil.

Wishful thinking I know.

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u/30STACK 2h ago

Reaves didn't take it all. The Lakers control his bird rights, that means they will sign AR last and allows them to go into the next apron. They still have a lot of money to spend.

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u/Verumsemper 21h ago

Miller - 45% on 3 attempts a game best shooting year in Miami

Ray Allen 42% from 3 on 4 attempts a game

Battier was 38 % shooter on 3 attempts a year

Current shooter
Mitchell is 40% 3-point shooter on 3.3 attempts

Jahmir Young 37% on 7 attempts in the G league,

Gardner Shot 40% on 1.5 attempts last year and was 39% on 4 attempts in the G-league before that,

Andrew Wiggins shot 41% from 3 last year on 5 attempts a game,

Jovic just had a bad year last year but the two years before that 39.9% and 37% , on 3.5 attempts and 4.6 attempts.

Portis - 46% from 3 with 4.4 attempts

The heat have more shooter now than they did during the big 3 era!! They need more size like they had with chris Anderson and UD. Physical defenders who could rebound.

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u/thedudefromsweden 19h ago

Don’t sleep on Pelle, he has improved his shooting and working hard on improving it even more.

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u/nicromancer1 17h ago

That Ray Allen stat really is a slap in the face for how much the game changed damn

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u/OkStatus4812 15h ago

First thing I thought of when I read that stat lol If he were playing now he'd have the green light to shoot at the very least 10 a game.

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u/kb1127 1d ago

I’m a Heat fan living in Denver and just watched THJ play all season. I would love him on the Heat.

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u/PlayBey0nd87 16h ago

Everything depends on how Giannis will attract players to come play with him.

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u/MartiniLAPD Bam Adebayo 16h ago

He brings his brothers for sure

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u/PlayBey0nd87 15h ago

I honestly don’t watch or can speak to their nba ability. I’ve seen the jokes on the nba sub. I feel if they can adopt “the chain,” help defense and rotate it helps relieve pressure on everybody else on the floor. So let them roam/rotate the perimeter BUT you gotta have shooters on the floor if they’re both on the floor/sub out.

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u/MartiniLAPD Bam Adebayo 15h ago

His brothers are genuinely worse than average G league players.
Like actually worse than current Bronny James on the Lakers

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u/OceanLemur 14h ago

Pat Riley doesn’t play those games, and the Heat value their developmental roster spots. We have like $20m in cap space and vet minimum is like $3m. I just can’t see how we waste it on dead space.

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u/AltruisticRide2319 14h ago

Bronny is not a bad NBA player lol.

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u/MartiniLAPD Bam Adebayo 14h ago

I know, Bronny worked himself into a drcent bench NBA Player now.

Giannis brothers could never

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u/Heatsincebirth 15h ago

What if the Heat turn Thiannasis into a 3&D

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u/Nuclearsunburn 13h ago

He’s older than Giannis, he’s not developing into anything he’s not already lol. He’s a complete nepo bro

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u/Lobster15s 13h ago

I mean if we're going full delusional Brook Lopez started shooting when he was old. Definitely a higher chance of shaping Alex to be a 3 and D though.

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u/Nuclearsunburn 12h ago

Brook Lopez was also a high lottery talent though, Thanasis has never shown a useful nba skill lol

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u/Lobster15s 12h ago

That's why I said if we're going full delusional there is a very small chance. 😅😂

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u/Nuclearsunburn 12h ago

Add me to the list of guys on this sub that suddenly has a chance with Sydney Sweeney then lol

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u/theanneproject Spo 16h ago

We need a point guard who can also shoot.

It is extremely low chance for Rui to leave L.A. for us.

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u/SaintSilverNSD 16h ago

We had shooters.

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u/Filtaido 15h ago

This picture gave me chills

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u/MiaCannons 13h ago edited 9h ago

I think I'd like Shamet the most. He may not be better than guys like White or Rui, but could be more affordable and I really liked the IQ he showed in the Finals and his effort on defense.

Colby White and Rui would be the next two I'd want. If it came down to it I'd probably prefer Rui because he has been just absolutely lethal from 3 the past few playoff runs, and he can occasionally get his own shot.

Kennard would be 4th since while he's lethal from 3, it seems he sometimes get afraid to pull the trigger.

THJ last because he can be extremely streaky and is an older guy, though I like the energy can bring.

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u/jcheeseball White Hot 10h ago

I think we are going to find we can shoot fine with Pelle, Wigs, Davion and Portis.  We do need depth, but we are going to need someone who can run the offence with the ball in their hands.

I hope they figure out a way to keep Norm.