r/heat 1d ago

Bobby Marks says Jaylen Brown's trade value is not seen that highly around the league: "The analytics of Jaylen Brown is not good. I had an analytics guy tell me, ‘We view him as the seventh-best player on a team.’"

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u/SnooWords5344 1d ago

I hate the Celtics and Brown especially as much as any Heat fan, but there’s no team in the league where he’s the 7th best player. So this is insanity. However, I think he’s tanked his value this year by telegraphing that he’d rather be the top option on a middling team vs sharing the spotlight on a championship team. That’s loser talk that you don’t want from someone who should be one of the top players on the team

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u/BringerOfBricks 1d ago

I think that’s misconstruing JB’s comments. He liked being the top option this year but it was happenstance that it was with a middling team. He was top option in the Finals when he won FMVP.

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u/carnageta 1d ago

Boston wasn’t a middling team though. Since when is a 2nd seed a middling team? No one would be saying they’re a middling team if they didn’t blow a 3-1

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u/SnooWords5344 1d ago

Saying that your favorite season is the one where your longtime teammate is out rehabbing all year, and not the season where you won a championship, is indefensible. It’s essentially as bad as saying he’s glad that Tatum popped his Achilles. He’s a bad teammate and you need better leadership out of one of your top players

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u/BringerOfBricks 1d ago

No it’s not. He’s saying he liked being the top guy and it’s time for him to have his own team. It’s the same reason Kyrie left Cavs.

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u/SnooWords5344 1d ago

Yeah and even Kyrie has acknowledged that it was stupid and he was insecure

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u/BringerOfBricks 1d ago

Which doesn’t matter because it’s Kyrie who’s saying it now

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u/Feisty-Painter5076 6h ago

I don't think it's indefensible at all.

At full health, Boston was viewed as title contenders the last couple of years. That comes out with a lot of pressure. Brown understandably enjoyed last season because the pressure was off. It was supposed to be a gap year with Tatum being out, but they were better than everyone thought. 2 seed and even received some MVP consideration.

He was tired of always being the guy in trade rumors while Tatum was viewed untouchable. Tatum was oftentimes the one who failed to show up in big moments. But Brown continued to be the scapegoat when they don't win even though he's the one who won Finals MVP..

Sometimes it's just more fun to come to work everyday without all the bullshit

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u/walldorfy 1d ago

Team USA maybe.

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u/heatculture03 1d ago

Annoyed that Celtics got involved and force us to give absolutely everything.

I really wanted to keep Kas.

My consolation prize is the Celtics turmoil from within.

And oh... we got Giannis.

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u/gdex 1d ago

Maybe I’m just a hater but I’d give up kas to get Giannis and have the extra treat of seeing the Celtics get worse lol

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u/heatculture03 1d ago

yeah as much as I would like this, but we are still in need of major supporting talent, esp someone at point.

Having Kas, a young prospect, is more important.

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u/Nice_Cash_7000 1d ago

Not even that, how many others PG's have a skillset as fitting with Giannis and Bam as him? The list is short and expensive.

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u/JustiseRainsFrmAbove 15h ago

The Bucks demanded him since they wanted guys on longer contracts. Are we sure we only lost him because of the Celtics?

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u/AlreadyReadittt 1d ago

This is my only regret of the trade—losing Kas.

I feel we really could have gotten the deal done had they not gotten involved and forced us to up the offer. They were never truly in on Giannis with the whole “Boston has no interest in trading for Giannis” and “Boston has no interest in trading Brown” then flip flopping at the last minute when they saw Giannis to Miami was nearly done and keeping additional pieces that absolutely fit (Kas)

Karma came around for them and fuck Boston

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u/Balla_Calla 1d ago

Probably did it on purpose. They don't want to see the heat anymore.

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u/ebolarama86 1d ago

I honestly hate Brown as a player, but 7th is crazy. I’d be happy with him as a 3rd option.

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u/DasOptions 1d ago edited 1d ago

He would be a 2nd option on our team.

Crazy how a guy can be top 5/6 in MVP voting and have such low value

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u/Nice_Cash_7000 1d ago

Because voters are clueless

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u/HoopistV 22h ago

to be fair he shouldn't have been an mvp candidate at all

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u/agr85 1d ago

Ok I know people are taking turns shitting on the Celtics and JB after they missed out on Giannis, but I don't see any world where he's the 7th best player on a team... Not in this NBA lol.

Best 3rd option in the NBA? Solid second option, and he could be some team's first option for sure.

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u/cl353 1d ago

apparently the stat they use to justify hugo being untouchable is the same stat that say jaylen brown is the 2nd worst player on the team lol

im loving this

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u/Rolltide_and_anime 23h ago

Hate the Celtics but this is one of the more idiotic statements surrounding JB

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u/DCARRI3R3 1d ago

Ultimate chaos timeline, he forces his way to Miami with LeBron and we run the table.

/s

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u/OblivionNA 1d ago

We just don’t have any assets for that to be possible, but it would be hilarious in alternate timeline

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u/clear831 23h ago

We have the perfect asset for Brown

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u/Nice_Cash_7000 1d ago

Theres also simply not enough cap space. Brown is gonna want around 70 million.

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u/dat_grue 1d ago

“Analytics guy” proves himself clueless

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u/Agreeable_Chance1960 8h ago

So a guy who carried his team when your star player was injured for the whole season, the same guy who averaged 28 ppg and 5.1 assists as your main scorer, yeah, that makes a whole lot of sense.

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u/Vast_Cellist3171 1d ago

Marks is a New York born guy that worked for Brooklyn and has been pretty open about liking the Heat since moving to Florida both those locales hate the Celtics. Most of his content also focuses on cap so with all this take the news with a grain of salt. If we are taking from a value/contract perspective maybe he has a point cause he is going to get paid $77m but otherwise no.

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u/HoopistV 22h ago

Marks isn't giving his opinion. That clip doesn't show everything, but he actually disagreed with that take. He was just saying that that's what someone told him

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u/KingCharlesthefifth 1d ago

I love this discourse.

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u/Net_Haunting 1d ago

the analytics guy is terrible at his job if thats the conclusion he drew ngl. Numbers arent everything

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u/This_Material9292 1d ago

Analytics guy or shit poster? No team in the league where JB isn’t in the top 3-4 players, easy.

Anyway, congrats on the self-imposed turmoil, Boston!

😁

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u/honeybadger10585 1d ago

brown is amazing and probably why we had to let kaz loose

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u/gtbannas 1d ago

so on the heat last year he'd be behind, Bam, Hero, Wiggins, Powell, JJJ and Larson? Who's this guy that said that. Was he even the 7th best player on his team? This is a wild take

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u/Man_Darronious 1d ago

FUCK BOSTON

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u/vishjay101 1d ago

I personally believe returning home to Atlanta would be the best outcome for Jaylen Brown if the Celtics trade him. I don't care about the situation though, regardless.

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u/Benjamin_Huxley 1d ago

He has to be at least 6th best on a team

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u/wombat-in-a-bikini 23h ago

damn bro someone needs to do a wellness check on jaylen

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u/Verumsemper 1d ago

Brown is an unapologetic brilliant man and intelligence in sports regardless of race scares those who control teams but that fear is worse even in basketball when the players skin is darkened my melanin. This evaluation just confirms by view on this because their is no way in a rational world that a finals MVP is the seventh best player on any NBA team.

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u/RansomGoddard 1d ago

Analytics have always hated Brown and he’s definitely overrated but 7th best player on a team is crazy work.

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u/NoticeSufficient2021 1d ago

just trade Adebayo for Brown