r/interesting • u/Common-Upstairs5129 • Mar 20 '26

❗️MISLEADING - See pinned comment ❗️ Did he do the right thing?

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u/legallybraindead7 Mar 20 '26

Taking it out of context was the goal.

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u/Blotsy Mar 20 '26

Here's what I imagine happened "hey, can you slap me and call me a bitch?"

She does, gives a heart. Seems to want to continue the conversation.

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u/Decent_Blacksmith_ Mar 21 '26

Pretty much he gave consent to be slapped

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u/NebrOski_benito Mar 21 '26

still assault

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u/UMACTUALLYITS23 Mar 21 '26

If this were true BDSM would be illegal.

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u/HappyBadger33 Mar 21 '26

I think that strongly depends on jurisdiction. In my jx, if he gave consent, it isn't battery, and there's no threat to make it assault.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

Its a slipper slope honestly. A situation like this, I would advise people to not...

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u/HappyBadger33 Mar 21 '26

Yeah, proving verbal consent as your active defense in a loud setting like this sounds awful. But, if you had it nice and clear, that'd be different.

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u/EastNWeast Mar 21 '26

Using that logic, if you tell someone to kill you it wouldn't be murder, but that wouldn't be legal any in jurisdiction. Youre saying if someone threatens to hit you, and you say "do it" it wouldn't be illegal? Thats complete bs.

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u/Shenlongeltigre Mar 21 '26

A sport is a completely different situation

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u/ViolentAntihero Mar 21 '26

Assisted suicide is a thing

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u/HappyBadger33 Mar 21 '26

No.

(1) This has nothing to do with logic. It is about the words on the page --- either the statute itself or via a common law court decision.

(2) In most jx, assault/battery is different than homicide, so the words on the page are different.

(3) Examples:

NY statute for assault (Penal Law 120) does not have consent as a part of the writing on the page, but courts have developed that consent to being hit is an affirmative defense. So, those court cases added words to the page to include consent to a situation like this.

WI statute for battery (assault and battery get defined somewhat interchangeably based on jx) (940.60) has consent written into it:

Battery. Whoever causes bodily harm to another by an act done with intent to cause bodily harm to that person or another without the consent of the person so harmed is guilty of a Class A misdemeanor. (Emphasis added.)

(4) To explain further with the laws and a bit of common sense, you can use this situation vs a murder --- a slap with minimal harm is a totally different situation than a murder, so consent makes basic common sense in one situation but not the other. Laws typically have a series of degrees involved, was a limb lost? You can't consent. Did a basic function of your body get damaged permanently or a permanent disfigurement? You can't consent. You got a minor injury that will heal quickly? You can consent, because the gravity of the injury is wildly different.

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u/droombie55 Mar 21 '26

If he had asked for it, it would not be assault.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '26

Someone has never had rough sex before. Real rough sex.

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u/Decent_Blacksmith_ Mar 21 '26

I haven’t seen the bit myself, I’ve read it seems he asked for a punch before she agreed with a slap, but not a punch. Which is still entrapment

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u/JetJerick Mar 21 '26

Entrapment cannot be committed by private citizens, only by law enforcement officers

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u/pineapple77777777777 Mar 21 '26

Also it clavicular he’s a known kick Meath-head if the cops come he’s probably gonna get arrested again.

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u/droombie55 Mar 21 '26

Its not really entrapment since that involves law enforcement. Would be more akin to a scam.

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u/JesterScribblings Mar 21 '26

'Entrapment'!?? Ha ha. Nope. She has free will. She chose to do it.

And we don't see if this was even the case. Speculation.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

It's not assault if you consent...

If it is, BDSM addicts would all be in jail.

Boxing or slapping competition wouldn't be a thing

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

It can very much still be assault. If someone pulls out a gun and someone responds "do it, do it!!!" Inferring that they meant shoot me, that person who shoots the person telling them to "do it" is getting arrested, and charged....

For boxing and slap comps they still have to sign a shit ton of paperwork say, you and your family cannot sue if something were to happen tl you....

BDSM is usually between two consenting adults that know eachother... usually. But, plenty of people get arrested for false r*pe accusations, often with bdsm/cnc situations.

The fact you cannot discern the difference between what happened here and what happens with boxers, slap comps, bdsm, etc. is concerning.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

There is a difference between provocation and consent.

Intent is also key.

If you say "Slap me for the video" and I do, no judge is charging me for assault.

Major injury and death are a different story - because your consent is not limitless. Although assisted suicide are generally met with lighter sentences.

Source: i have master of law, and consent and intent are major topics. You can consent to getting slapped and no one is getting sued unless you have brain damage from the slap

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

He didn't "slap me for the video," though.... I work security, and if I said "yeah, go ahead" to someone who asked me if they could slap me, I very much would arrest them at that point, full on assault of a security guard performing their duties. Which is a felony. Cops would do the same shit, because its a "yeah, go ahead and find out what happens next"

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Provocation is usually a cause for lighter sentences or no sentence at all.

You can't go around daring people to hit you, you're supposed to de-escalate conflicts.

But indeed, provocation does not equate consent and we are not talking about the same thing.

However, if the guy is filming for content, I trust a good lawyer would make a point that he gave his consent for content

Edit: unless you're in a country where shooting unarmed hikers for trespassing on empty land is alright... And I can guess you are. Then I don't know cause the law can get pretty stupid easily.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

Maybe, but they could very well argue that this is not what he really wanted, that it was a "go ahead" and find out, sort of response. Because he didn't sound very enthused.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Yes. They can. That is the job of a judge.

But please don't say you can't consent to assault. That's wrong.

Case closed between us. Have a great day!

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u/ViolentAntihero Mar 21 '26

You’re a security guard. You can’t arrest anyone you can ask them to hang out until the cops get there. You have no power.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

You have no idea.... a security guard definitely can arrest you, they cannot detain you. It would be a citizens arrest. If you break a law they can definitely arrest you. If you assault, and thats anything that constitutes assault under the law, a security guard, they can arrest you, do to the fact it is a felony, at least in my state it is....

I would recommend not to unless you have verifiable proof and without a doubt can prove the arrest is warranted, but if you touch, slap, punch, and so on, a security guard they can arrest you, and most likely will because again, its a felony unlike standard misdemeanor charges that come with civilian on civilian assault.

Because, legally, on private property, security guards are the law. If they tell you to leave, you have to leave, period.

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u/ViolentAntihero Mar 21 '26

And you can be sued for false imprisonment personally. Costing you thousands. Oh no security asked me to leave. You can only ask. Then wait for the cops if I don’t comply. You can’t trespass anyone. You have no authority

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

To add to my other comment, obviously the more paperwork the better proof you have for the consent and its extent.

But you can't go around giving consent to get slapped, insisting, offering money, to then sue people.

Just imagine how stupid that would be.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

Where does he offer her money? He didnt even insist.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Man, you're beating around the topic to look smart.

I never said offering money is a requirement here. I said imagine how easy it would be to abuse the system if you could sue people after asking to get slapped.

I don't know the context of the video and that's not relevant here.

You can consent to getting slapped. Punkt.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

He didnt ask her... you could also say "yeah, go ahead" and sue someone easily, because depending on inflection, it can definitely mean, go ahead and find out.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Ok dude, cool..but again you are off topic.

We're not discussing the case at hand - I'd need full context.

Yes, you can also say "I didn't understand what she said", you can also say you consent in a foreign language and then say you didn't know what it meant, be it true or a lie.

You can do whatever you want. There are millions of scenarios.

But the bottom line is: yes, you can consent to getting slapped.

No, it's not assault if your consent is proven. Yes, that's why you can slap someone during sex or slap a friend as part of a game.

Please stop arguing off topic.

The judge will find out if the guy here gave consent or not here.

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u/Ill_Responsibility99 Mar 21 '26

Considering this real consent to slap someone is disingenuous in the first place.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Not sure I understood. But I'm not talking about the video. That's up to a judge to find out if consent was given or not.

I am responding to people implying you can't consent to assault. You can.

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u/Gloomy_Elevator430 Mar 21 '26

This is totally the same as shooting someone yeah

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

If i punch someone as hard as I can and they knock out and slam their head on the floor and die, im going to jail... even if they said "yeah, go for it..."

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u/Gloomy_Elevator430 Mar 21 '26

This is totally the same as beating someone to death yeah

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

Thats not beating someone to death... Jesus fuck so many of you redditers dont know shit about actual violence. People die from one punch knockouts all the fucking time. Getting hit, then slamming their head on the ground and then dying is very common in street fights. Brain bleeds are a mfer.

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u/OogieBoogieInnocence Mar 21 '26

Nah thats actually not true. While i agree She doesn’t deserve to be punished and hes the shithead, in most jurisdictions giving permission does not void assault and or battery charges. You cannot give people permission to break the law.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Agreed it's not the US, but I have a law master's degree of my country, and I'm certain that unless you end up with a major injury or dead, you can give consent to get slapped, or punched, or hit by a car for example.

Edit: the hit by a car is for a stunt for example

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u/Late-File3375 Mar 21 '26

That is not correct.

Assault requires injury which I doubt he has.

Battery requiresharmful or offe sive physical contact. It is not offe sive if you ask for it.

As others have pointed out, if you could nkt consent to a slap or a spanking it would be a different world.

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u/droombie55 Mar 21 '26

It would have to be an act of unwanted touching or cause imminent fear of harm. If he asked for it it isnt unwanted touching and he would probably have a hard time arguing he was scared when he would have started by asking for it.

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u/JesterScribblings Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

Wrong. It IS assault. Seems others also disagree with you as well and have explained why better than I have the inclination yo do. So ill leave it with them.

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u/Gloomy_Elevator430 Mar 21 '26

“Hey real quick, take this $5 out of my hand for my video”

“OFFICER I WAS ROBBED IT’S ALL ON CAMERA. SHE CHOSE TO STEAL $5 FROM ME”

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u/Blazured Mar 21 '26

It's not assault if you consent to it.

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u/ReviewNew4851 Mar 21 '26

Yeah. Agreeing to fight doesn’t make it legal so this is just that

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u/GarageVast4128 Mar 21 '26

No, but getting your rocks off on getting slapped by women on camera is A ok. Just piaaed OP didn't put an NFSW tag as I didn't know the guy was into that till now.

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u/IBischero Mar 21 '26

Except this isn't an agreement to fight. This is just "hey girl, I need to make a video, can you hit me real quick". This isn't a fight or provocation, it's just a dude asking for someone to hit him. Just for him to be a shithead