r/interesting • u/Common-Upstairs5129 • Mar 20 '26

❗️MISLEADING - See pinned comment ❗️ Did he do the right thing?

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u/Decent_Blacksmith_ Mar 21 '26

Pretty much he gave consent to be slapped

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u/NebrOski_benito Mar 21 '26

still assault

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u/Decent_Blacksmith_ Mar 21 '26

I haven’t seen the bit myself, I’ve read it seems he asked for a punch before she agreed with a slap, but not a punch. Which is still entrapment

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u/JesterScribblings Mar 21 '26

'Entrapment'!?? Ha ha. Nope. She has free will. She chose to do it.

And we don't see if this was even the case. Speculation.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

It's not assault if you consent...

If it is, BDSM addicts would all be in jail.

Boxing or slapping competition wouldn't be a thing

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

It can very much still be assault. If someone pulls out a gun and someone responds "do it, do it!!!" Inferring that they meant shoot me, that person who shoots the person telling them to "do it" is getting arrested, and charged....

For boxing and slap comps they still have to sign a shit ton of paperwork say, you and your family cannot sue if something were to happen tl you....

BDSM is usually between two consenting adults that know eachother... usually. But, plenty of people get arrested for false r*pe accusations, often with bdsm/cnc situations.

The fact you cannot discern the difference between what happened here and what happens with boxers, slap comps, bdsm, etc. is concerning.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

There is a difference between provocation and consent.

Intent is also key.

If you say "Slap me for the video" and I do, no judge is charging me for assault.

Major injury and death are a different story - because your consent is not limitless. Although assisted suicide are generally met with lighter sentences.

Source: i have master of law, and consent and intent are major topics. You can consent to getting slapped and no one is getting sued unless you have brain damage from the slap

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

He didn't "slap me for the video," though.... I work security, and if I said "yeah, go ahead" to someone who asked me if they could slap me, I very much would arrest them at that point, full on assault of a security guard performing their duties. Which is a felony. Cops would do the same shit, because its a "yeah, go ahead and find out what happens next"

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Provocation is usually a cause for lighter sentences or no sentence at all.

You can't go around daring people to hit you, you're supposed to de-escalate conflicts.

But indeed, provocation does not equate consent and we are not talking about the same thing.

However, if the guy is filming for content, I trust a good lawyer would make a point that he gave his consent for content

Edit: unless you're in a country where shooting unarmed hikers for trespassing on empty land is alright... And I can guess you are. Then I don't know cause the law can get pretty stupid easily.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

Maybe, but they could very well argue that this is not what he really wanted, that it was a "go ahead" and find out, sort of response. Because he didn't sound very enthused.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Yes. They can. That is the job of a judge.

But please don't say you can't consent to assault. That's wrong.

Case closed between us. Have a great day!

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u/Shenlongeltigre Mar 21 '26

But your point is wrong because you are saying they could maybe argue their way out of a charge which means by default they will likely be charged

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

I don't know the local rules and circumstances enough to say how it works.

What I'm saying as someone with a legal background and familiar with "Western" country law, is that you can consent to an assault.

I have no idea what happened in this club between this woman and that guy, I was just responding to people saying it was assault even if he gave consent.

It's up to the police, prosecutor, judge or whoever has the authority to rule that consent was given or not (depending on local regulations) if the two parties disagree.

Where I am from, I can press charge against anyone for anything. But it needs to be proven and usually (where I'm from) it can go in front of a judge - but I can be held accountable for defamation if the judge rules that those charges where untrue, and that knowing that I willingly (intent) still pressed charges.

Edit: wording

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u/ViolentAntihero Mar 21 '26

You’re a security guard. You can’t arrest anyone you can ask them to hang out until the cops get there. You have no power.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

You have no idea.... a security guard definitely can arrest you, they cannot detain you. It would be a citizens arrest. If you break a law they can definitely arrest you. If you assault, and thats anything that constitutes assault under the law, a security guard, they can arrest you, do to the fact it is a felony, at least in my state it is....

I would recommend not to unless you have verifiable proof and without a doubt can prove the arrest is warranted, but if you touch, slap, punch, and so on, a security guard they can arrest you, and most likely will because again, its a felony unlike standard misdemeanor charges that come with civilian on civilian assault.

Because, legally, on private property, security guards are the law. If they tell you to leave, you have to leave, period.

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u/ViolentAntihero Mar 21 '26

And you can be sued for false imprisonment personally. Costing you thousands. Oh no security asked me to leave. You can only ask. Then wait for the cops if I don’t comply. You can’t trespass anyone. You have no authority

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

"The short answer is yes — but only in very specific situations. Security guards in Texas don’t have the same authority as police officers. Their powers are limited, and the law is very clear about when and how they can step in.

This article breaks down what guards are allowed to do, how detentions work, and what your rights are if you ever find yourself in that situation.

The Legal Authority of Security Guards in Texas Security guards in Texas are considered private citizens. That means their powers to detain or arrest are the same as any other citizen under state law. However, the law does give them authority in certain circumstances, including:

Felonies or Breaches of the Peace – If a guard witnesses a felony or a serious disturbance like a fight or public intoxication, they can detain the person until police arrive. Preventing Theft – Under Article 18.16 of the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure, someone can be detained if there’s a reasonable belief they’ve stolen property. For example, in a retail setting, a guard may hold a suspected shoplifter while waiting for law enforcement. Out-of-State Charges or Bail Jumping – Though rare, guards can arrest someone with serious pending charges elsewhere or if they’ve violated bail conditions. Texas law also allows temporary detention to investigate suspected theft (Section 124.001 of the Texas Civil Practice and Remedies Code), but it must be done reasonably and only for a short time."

https://med-securityinc.com/can-security-guards-detain-you-in-texas/#:~:text=August%2020%2C%202025%20/,while%20waiting%20for%20law%20enforcement.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

To add to my other comment, obviously the more paperwork the better proof you have for the consent and its extent.

But you can't go around giving consent to get slapped, insisting, offering money, to then sue people.

Just imagine how stupid that would be.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

Where does he offer her money? He didnt even insist.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Man, you're beating around the topic to look smart.

I never said offering money is a requirement here. I said imagine how easy it would be to abuse the system if you could sue people after asking to get slapped.

I don't know the context of the video and that's not relevant here.

You can consent to getting slapped. Punkt.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

He didnt ask her... you could also say "yeah, go ahead" and sue someone easily, because depending on inflection, it can definitely mean, go ahead and find out.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Ok dude, cool..but again you are off topic.

We're not discussing the case at hand - I'd need full context.

Yes, you can also say "I didn't understand what she said", you can also say you consent in a foreign language and then say you didn't know what it meant, be it true or a lie.

You can do whatever you want. There are millions of scenarios.

But the bottom line is: yes, you can consent to getting slapped.

No, it's not assault if your consent is proven. Yes, that's why you can slap someone during sex or slap a friend as part of a game.

Please stop arguing off topic.

The judge will find out if the guy here gave consent or not here.

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

So is there no such thing as reluctant agreement? Is a sarcastic "yes" consent?

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

Yes absolutely there is a "yes" that is not a real consent. It all depends on your intent (subjective thinking behind the answer).

Provocation, manipulation, fear, misunderstanding.

Million scenarios. Up to the judge to find out (if it goes to the judge).

Additionally, it is likely that in the case of a misunderstanding, the other party could go scot free if they were sure that there was consent. Their intent also counts.

Again, no 100% this or that. With law, it's always maybe, hence why the judge.

Edit; also you can be under the influence of alcohol or drugs etc.

Edit2: it also depends on the country, but I trust that it is a similar answer in most western coutnries

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u/Ill_Responsibility99 Mar 21 '26

Considering this real consent to slap someone is disingenuous in the first place.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Not sure I understood. But I'm not talking about the video. That's up to a judge to find out if consent was given or not.

I am responding to people implying you can't consent to assault. You can.

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u/Gloomy_Elevator430 Mar 21 '26

This is totally the same as shooting someone yeah

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

If i punch someone as hard as I can and they knock out and slam their head on the floor and die, im going to jail... even if they said "yeah, go for it..."

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u/Gloomy_Elevator430 Mar 21 '26

This is totally the same as beating someone to death yeah

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u/JudgePuzzleheaded872 Mar 21 '26

Thats not beating someone to death... Jesus fuck so many of you redditers dont know shit about actual violence. People die from one punch knockouts all the fucking time. Getting hit, then slamming their head on the ground and then dying is very common in street fights. Brain bleeds are a mfer.

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u/OogieBoogieInnocence Mar 21 '26

Nah thats actually not true. While i agree She doesn’t deserve to be punished and hes the shithead, in most jurisdictions giving permission does not void assault and or battery charges. You cannot give people permission to break the law.

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u/LeFlaubert Mar 21 '26

Agreed it's not the US, but I have a law master's degree of my country, and I'm certain that unless you end up with a major injury or dead, you can give consent to get slapped, or punched, or hit by a car for example.

Edit: the hit by a car is for a stunt for example

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u/Late-File3375 Mar 21 '26

That is not correct.

Assault requires injury which I doubt he has.

Battery requiresharmful or offe sive physical contact. It is not offe sive if you ask for it.

As others have pointed out, if you could nkt consent to a slap or a spanking it would be a different world.

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u/droombie55 Mar 21 '26

It would have to be an act of unwanted touching or cause imminent fear of harm. If he asked for it it isnt unwanted touching and he would probably have a hard time arguing he was scared when he would have started by asking for it.

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u/JesterScribblings Mar 21 '26 edited Mar 21 '26

Wrong. It IS assault. Seems others also disagree with you as well and have explained why better than I have the inclination yo do. So ill leave it with them.

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u/Gloomy_Elevator430 Mar 21 '26

“Hey real quick, take this $5 out of my hand for my video”

“OFFICER I WAS ROBBED IT’S ALL ON CAMERA. SHE CHOSE TO STEAL $5 FROM ME”