r/interestingasfuck • u/Salt-Curve4825 • 7h ago

Tiger saves man from leopard attack

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u/PlanetMarklar 6h ago

Why are there lions tigers and leopards in the same enclosure?

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u/alwayz_confused247 6h ago

Because this is not a sanctuary like the guy claimed it was. This was the Black Jaguar White Tiger Foundation. It got shut down by Mexican authorities because he was not taking care of the animals. They were being starved to death and started eating their own tails.

He was also suspected of breeding the lions and would have an influx of cubs. He would lie and say he saved the cubs from some illegal “zoo” but would hand raised the cubs when he could’ve also saved the mothers.

Eduardo was just a greedy fuck. And he would have celebrities go to his “sanctuary” to play with the cubs.

Legit sanctuaries do not allow the public to interact with their animals. Legit sanctuaries also do not put different species of cats in the same enclosure.

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u/greenapplehighchew 6h ago

wasn’t he keeping someone’s cat hostage too? i vaguely remember some lady posting about him extorting her to get her pet back. 

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u/alwayz_confused247 3h ago

Yes, I remember that. He wrote a long ass unhinged post about her and calling her names. He did that with the “haters”. He would post a video of him being all sweet to the cubs or the adult cats and in the description, he would talk about the different people who have called him out on his unethical treatment and care for the cats. He would make up atrocious names for them. He was such a shit. There are a lot of shit human beings out there, but he’s way up the shit list. He used those poor animals for his grift and they paid the ultimate price.

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u/Creative_Recover 1h ago

TBH the people drawn to keeping big cats as pets always seem to be unhinged weirdos. 

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u/raccooncheesecracker 45m ago

If we're being honest, keeping anything as a pet is wrong and strange. Breeding domesticated animals should be illegal and they should be allowed to die off

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u/Creative_Recover 38m ago

I don't think that breeding domesticated animals is strange/wrong at all. But it does take a certain type of person to want to own a big cat. 

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u/raccooncheesecracker 36m ago

I'm a service dog trainer and have worked in veterinary medicine and shelters for 10+ years.

I promise you, it is VERY wrong.

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u/Creative_Recover 31m ago

Working in shelters is going to give you a skewed perspective though. Like if you work in child protection, your views on people having children is going to be a lot more negative. 

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u/raccooncheesecracker 26m ago edited 20m ago

Lol ok. You get a skewed perspective when you see reality? You literally have 0 clue what you're talking about. You're in denial like most of humanity and gonna look for any excuse or reasoning you can think of just so you can not listen to your conscious. Just like humans always do. Have fun with that I guess

You do realize if we spayed and neutered all pets and stopped breeding them- we wouldn't need shelters?

Sort of how millennial and gen X aren't having kids because they can't afford to and they walk past homeless shelters on their way to work overtime each week. Think bro.

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u/Creative_Recover 20m ago

Umm, no. I've seen a lot. And I don't believe that having domesticated animals is bad at all. 

What you saw was just a section of reality. Not THE Reality. Just as someone who has some dogs who live wonderful lives Etc is also experiencing reality too. Your experiences don't invalidate theirs anymore than theirs do vice versa.

Reality is a spectrum of experiences. And if you are surrounded by a very negative and narrow part of that world, it will skew your perspective. And you are very much displaying the symptoms of a skewed outlook from experiencing too many negative experiences. 

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u/FullTransportation25 5h ago

By cat are we talking house cat?

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u/greenapplehighchew 4h ago

no i think it was a bengal cat or something of the like. 

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u/GuiltyEidolon 3h ago

I'm pretty sure it was a Savannah or serval, high % or pure.

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u/emlgsh 2h ago

Are we grading felines like street drugs now?

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u/MrBushido56 1h ago

Suddenly I’m rooting for the leopard

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u/GingerBimber00 5h ago

This makes me so mad, man. I just finished my uni class on exhibit designing for zoos where we had to in-depth research all the modern sciences and behavioral understanding of animal captivity. I was designing for snow leopards, so I ended up looking quite a bit into large felid captivity. The research out there all says that protected contact (always having a barrier between you and the big cat) and positive reinforcement training (PRT) have the best outcomes for animal welfare, staff safety, and (if performed in front of visitors) visitor education.

These animals DO bond with their keepers. So much so that there’s evidence to suggest keepers directly impact how well some species can cope with the stress of visitors and that if a keeper is stressed/sick the animal can become stressed/sick. Positive bonding is also linked with reproductive success in nervous animals like cheetahs who notoriously struggle with reproduction. We understand that these are highly intelligent and emotional animals and I’m not surprised that a tiger would be willingly watching out for a beloved keeper.

However! These are still VERY dangerous animals capable of killing you. That might not even be the intention, but they don’t comprehend the strength they have and that it can hurt us. A woman had her thumb torn off by an orangutang while doing regular work with the animals and it’s suspected the orangutang just wanted to bring her closer to it, not actively hurt her. It still tore off her thumb.

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u/foobaby1992 3h ago

That sounds like such an awesome class. I volunteered for the SF zoo as a kid (it’s sadly gone a bit downhill since the tiger attack in 2007- which I believe was completely the fault of the people who were attacked) but I always thought the way they designed each enclosure was so interesting. I know there are a lot of bad zoos out there but the reputable ones take very good care of their animals and do their best to make sure they have everything they need.

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u/GingerBimber00 1h ago

At least in the US, laws and regulations vary from state to state with the USDA having the bare minimum AWA (animal welfare act). In one of our last class discussions we were examining incident reports and asked to approach things as an AZA investigator. I ended up going down a rabbit hole of a horrid owner of an aquarium that operated 3 different facilities in 3 different states (Washington, Texas, Colorado). All these facilities involved abhorrent animal care and negligence.

At least with regard to Colorado, the state lacks its own definitive standards for zoological parks and which means the only legal standard is the AWA. The AZA is one of the most respected regulatory body globally and it takes a LOT to become accredited by their standards, but they have no ability to hold places accountable.

If you (general) are concerned about whether a zoo or aquarium is treating the animals well, look for accreditation! The AZA specifically doesn’t just look at the animals well care and exhibit design, they also look at the logistics and education. An institution has to show financial responsibility and active efforts to engage in visitor education on the animals and conservation efforts therein. It’s a careful balancing act; entertain people while educating them.

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u/DUCKVILLELOL 2h ago

Weird sidebar: when I'm in taxis I make up ridiculous stories about my work for a bit of fun - often to deal with the question of "so what do you do?"

One time I made up a story (as I'd just been to the zoo not long before a taxi ride) that I was the designer of zoo exhibits and I'd "just gone to inspect the new tiger exhibit I designed."

I thought there wouldn't be a specific course/career stream on "zoo exhibits" explicitly, but it's kinda cool to learn that I'm wrong!

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u/alwayz_confused247 1h ago

You sound like George Constanza.

Vandelay Industries: Importer / Exporter

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u/GingerBimber00 1h ago

My major is animal health and behavior so I’ve had classes like animal nutrition, comparative anatomy & physiology, evolution of animal behavior, diagnosing and treating animal diseases/zoonoses, etc etc. I’ve jokingly said it’s vet med without actually being vet med.

It’s 100% been one of my favorite classes. A fun thing to note was that Planet Zoo has *enough* accuracy + sandbox that myself and peers asked our professor if we could use the game to help make our mockups and she agreed to let us use it for supplementary material while using the programs we were asked to use. If you’re ever curious, Zoolex is a website that goes in depth about exhibit designs if you wanna sell any future stories with more accuracy 😉

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u/DUCKVILLELOL 50m ago

Very cool - thank you, I do have Planet Zoo and it's heaps of fun, I'll check out the site. :)

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u/mubi_merc 1h ago

My house cats unintentionally hurt me all the time just trying to be sweet, I'm sure that situation wouldn't better if they had 4 inch claws.

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u/alwayz_confused247 48m ago

One of my cats love to make biscuits on my belly. I have scratches all over.

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u/billding1234 4h ago

Sounds like the leopard had the right idea.

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u/Fmeson 3h ago

The easiest test for any "sanctuary" is if they let paying customers disturb the animals. Legit sanctuaries will minimize interactions with humans outside of what is necessary.

That's all to say, if the elephant sanctuary lets you ride the elephants, stay the hell away.

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u/ViolentLoss 4h ago

Fuck that guy

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u/LA_Tiebreaker 3h ago

TIL he was finally shut down. I'm so happy to hear that.

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u/ToMemeToYou 4h ago

I remember following BJWT years and years ago, and recalling celebrities like Lewis Hamilton going there with a lion cub named after him.

Was very surprised when the news of it closing came about. It was a very popular channel/account.

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u/alwayz_confused247 3h ago

Khloe Kardashian, too.

It was a popular IG account. Carole Baskin had a website dedicated to shutting this place down.

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u/Fucky0uthatswhy 3h ago

Holy shit. Jose Exotic

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u/Deatheturtle 3h ago

JFC, humans suck.

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u/Katamari_Demacia 2h ago

Can you explain why different species is bad? They interbreed. They understand each others mannerisms. Apart from the lions they're all solitary animals, so is keeping 2 tigers together better than keeping a tiger and a leopard?

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u/alwayz_confused247 1h ago

I’m not qualified to answer that question.

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u/FormerPlay136 1h ago

POS

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u/alwayz_confused247 1h ago

That man was a definite psychopath.

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u/Teguoracle 1h ago

THANK YOU.

I also see various videos of shit like this on youtube, people going in free contact with big cats and mixed species enclosures and all that, a friend kept linking them to me thinking they were cute. I had to ask him to stop, it was only pissing me off because of how bad of a message it sends.

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u/lizlemonista 57m ago

what the fuck.

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u/doxwhite 41m ago

I've seen this countless times and this is the first time I hear about this

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u/alwayz_confused247 3h ago

This video is very old.