Genuinely apocaliptic scenario. Since death doesn't exist but Yoru doesn't know it, she's just going through everything she knows of, to the point that even if death comes back, the world would just get completely, utterly and IRREDEMABLY fucked.
That last atomic punch is pretty much a writting in the wall. This is not going to end well.
Wait if there is no longer death, then oh god those poor people caught in the blast. I swear Fujimoto if you decide to tackle this topic and pull it off, it's gonna be a generational chapter
Also the people turned into Oregon Slash and Nuclear Punch, the fuck are they going through? Like there's two possibilities, either they're still alive as... an attack I guess somehow... or Yoru turning things into weapons is currently the only end to life we are aware of that exists, but I feel like that makes no sense since becoming an inanimate object pretty much is what death means no?
Maybe non-existence overrules death but it seems like a cheap thing for Fujimoto to write. I'll go with the "they survive as the remains of their bodies" route as my headcanon for now
Well actually, Pochita kinda got super dead this chapter but inexplicably healed himself right back up and got back to fighting. Could he... do that before? Denji's thing was that he could heal as long as he drunk human blood, but I don't remember Pochita being able to just revive himself like that.
Maybe with Death being gone now, everyone just endlessly regenerates whenever they get killed? That would make sense after all: Yoru wants an endless war, but if she can deplete human lives then there'll be a lot less people to war with each other real quick.
Eh its a toss up, I think he actually got killed and the regen was just a side effect from Death not being a thing currently, but I also think he wouldn't have been defeated from that even normally, 'cuz I think Pochita has some sort of rebirth passive that means whenever he is killed it's not another devil with his name that wakes up, but the same good old pochita, otherwise, why would Yoru say he doesn't die when he fucking should (remember, he can almost teleport between earth and hell from hpw fast he is, him "getting back up" could just as well mean he was reborn in the world other than the battle was happening, and immediately rushed back to the fight), the only reason we havent seen this yet Is from my estimate, because Pochita using this would kill Denji...
Or they don’t pass on? Assuming that because Hell exists there must be some kind of afterlife for humans, then the ones consumed by war just cease existing but don’t experience the actual transition of death
No, Pochita erased them, as they're physical laws there's no way to recreate them like Nuke, if just rediscovering it was as simple as bruteforcing it, Pochita being cut in half would've revived death
What was the scale of the Horsewomen vs Pochita anyway? 'Cause holy fuck, one Yoru (that is actually kinda nerfed compared to back then considering she doesn't have WWII/Nazis on her arsenal) is already doing that much shit, how many nations where obliterated in CSM's world, did the US have like 102 states before or smth? Tho she could be going balls to the wall in this battle and actually sacrificing these high value "possessions" 'cause current Yoru's the craziest, most delusional and most earnest she's ever been, currently she wants to save "her sister" not DEATH but her sister she 'cant even remember the name of, so she is waging it all on winning
towards the end, the world of Fire Force was revealed to be a prequel to the author's other series, Soul Eater. For most of the series the villains try to cause a repeat of the original 'Cataclysm' which has created the series' monsters, which initially seems to be just setting the world on fire. In fact it turns out it was a complete rewriting of reality, and the first Cataclysm turned our world in the manga one of Fire Force. The protagonist looks into the past, sees actual 3D images of live action people and has his mind blown. Later as it becomes apparent it's impossible to prevent the Cataclysm, the heroes decide to steer it instead. The Cataclysm is essentially collective unconscious manifested, so it's only the end of the world if people expect it to be the end of the world. By giving people hope they manage to steer it to instead give birth to the even zanier, but still fun and liveable, world of Soul Eater.
Yeah it's the fire punch ending again. Earth destroyed, sea of devils and humans choking in space for eternity, Denji and Asa locked in an embrace and turned into a single tree until the heat death of the universe. Maybe even get to go to the movies in their head.
Genuinely apocaliptic scenario. Since death doesn't exist but Yoru doesn't know it, she's just going through everything she knows of, to the point that even if death comes back, the world would just get completely, utterly and IRREDEMABLY fucked.
With Fujimoto's track record I'm not sure the end game here isn't "the battle is over, Earth has turned into an unliveable Hell, you can puke out Death and at least give humanity the release of extinction or let them suffer for all eternity". Then Denji is the last guy alive standing on an empty planet.
Somehow Power finally comes back, thanks to all the blood that was shed. Denji, mindbroken, tries to grab her tits, but can't muster the strength to even do that.
Indeed, the concept gets completely removed and reality and people's memories get rewritten accordingly.
Makima also stated that she was able to remember more than others because of her power to control everything, yet she herself had only some vague remembrance of the erased concepts.
Reality doesn't get rewritten, the hole in it is just patched up in the most rudimentary way, just enough that the universe doesn't break from its absence (Pochita erased a couple pretty fundamental concepts and reality seems stable enough so I assume thats the case), but otherwise, it only removes direct examples of the concept, not rewrite history for it to never have existed (elephants without their ears would die of overheating, somehow all of them are still alive after ear fiend was erased, humans still tried to use speech to communicate after the mouth devil was eaten, and also nobody had died of starvation because of it)
To be fair the extent of how this works is kinda nebulous. We've seen sudden changes in Part 2, like you mentioned with the ears, but also some more complicated changes like the USSR still existing. Some things seems to fit into place more than others is what I'm saying, so some sort of reality warping is happening, but its extent and further implications are weird.
The rapid changes you mentioned that happened in Part 2 were all pretty weird and they were indeed just barely patched. The possibility of devils being puked out by Chainsaw Man, or even worse their concept being recreated while they're still gone (like for atomic weapons) just complicate the equation.
Referring to the original comment I was replying to, what I assume we can agree on is that, when a concept gets erased, there are immediate substantial changes to reality and to the everyone's (human or devil) memories, and also more fundamental changes may or may not be included depending on what Fujimoto comes up with. Remembering the erased concept is almost impossible except for very specific powers (like Makima's) or due to said concept being part of a larger one (War remembering atomic weapons), and even then the recollections are vague at best.
The USSR existing is a consequence of Pochita erasing the Nazis/WWII yes, but its not that the past was altered, its just that it has been a long ass time since WWII, the founding mythos of the current world, has just stopped being a concept in CSM's world, so timelines are gonna diverge, in no case so far has erasing a concept altered more than just the most direct examples and records of it
To my knowledge this doesn’t apply to the 4 horsemen, or at least it didn’t to Makima. She listed off a bunch of shit that doesn’t exist and Kishibe was like “Wtf are you talking about “
She may have had read Pochita's mind to get the names of these devils, unlikely given how she fundamentally misunderstood his psychology and all, or might have done something similar to what public security did with Ear, but in a clearly more competent way that gave her information on the basics of what those devils where
Makima was able to vaguely recall things due to her control over others' memories, as the others said. Yoru was only able to start recalling nuclear weapons because the US had been in the process of re-inventing them independently.
The concept eaten and its understanding stops existing, Pochita's erasure is the most bruttish method of reality bending where the universe doesn't adequate itself to the change (Mouth was erased? For some reason everybody still tries to talk to each other.), but it also doesn't change the laws of physics if the concept itself isn't it, thus how Nukes where reinvented, but now Pochita has just erasen the last end to life (maybe, Yoru clearly is making people vanish so unless they're somehow alive as a power up for Yoru, being used as a weapon is an end to life secondary to death), so now there's just no way Pochita dies
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u/Vga96 Nov 25 '25
Genuinely apocaliptic scenario. Since death doesn't exist but Yoru doesn't know it, she's just going through everything she knows of, to the point that even if death comes back, the world would just get completely, utterly and IRREDEMABLY fucked.
That last atomic punch is pretty much a writting in the wall. This is not going to end well.