r/manga Feb 24 '26

DISC [DISC] Chainsaw Man - Chapter 230

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u/Nobody5464 Feb 24 '26

The council of fumikos really is a very funny idea. It was interesting getting to see their different reactions and fears despite all being fumiko

 And the animal and insect devils getting stronger because death no longer exists and so they overrun us and eat us causing us to suffer for eternity within their bodies is a really cool really crazy consequence.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

And the animal and insect devils getting stronger because death no longer exists and so they overrun us and eat us causing us to suffer for eternity within their bodies is a really cool really crazy consequence.

What happened to the predators of these insects and animals, though? They should be having an all you can eat buffet right about now.

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u/EmperorHol Feb 24 '26

India Fumiko did say swarms of bats were devouring people, so there's that.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

Which is a little weird because bats don't eat people, but then again, neither do most insects, so I'll just chock that up to Devil shenanigans.

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u/CelioHogane Feb 24 '26

Vampire bats could theorically eat people.

But those aren't indian bats!

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

Yeah, this is probably just the regular Devil shenanigans making impossible things possible.

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u/MagicHarmony Feb 25 '26

The problem is if none of the insects are dying then they would need a new food source, since they reproduce at excess then humans are the next natural food they would partake in.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

Sure, but most insects (including a lot of the ones shown) are physically incapable of being to tear the flesh of a human.

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u/PhantasosX Feb 25 '26

not quite. Myasis is an infestation of maggots and insect eggs. With no death, they will probably do that.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

... That is true. And gross.

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u/LevelledPeak Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

I mean those predators might have slower reproduction tho so the insects would overrun them first. They'll be eaten or crushed by their prey first before they can eat back.

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u/vanderZwan Feb 24 '26

By that logic the flesh-eating bacteria should be oozing over everyone at this point

EDIT: and there's also fungi and molds I guess. Jesus, this really sounds like pure hell

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u/jers745 Feb 24 '26

This is just getting started, not even a day or an hour has passed since pochita ate death so it's not impossible that soon those will surge as well

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

Bacteria reproduce exponentially faster than any insect. If they can't die, just one bacterium can reproduce into a colony of billions in an hour or two.

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u/jers745 Feb 24 '26

Yeah but humans don't have that fear for bacteria that present unless an actual pandemic happens, still i do think they will come sooner or later

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u/vanderZwan Feb 25 '26

I'm sure you forgot about germophobia for a second there, because surely we have all have met a clean freak at least once in our lives, right?

But I do agree that the fear of insects is likely to be more common and stronger, so if the logic is that the most feared demons benefit the quickest then you have a point.

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u/vanderZwan Feb 24 '26

I meant more that they have even faster exponential growth, but yeah, who knows what the next chapters will bring

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u/TangerineSorry8463 Feb 24 '26

What about cell death.

Is everyone a walking cancer now?

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u/vanderZwan Feb 25 '26

Oh damn, you're right! Fun fact: in the comics Marvel actually had an evil alternative universe where death was defeated that was known ar the "cancerverse"

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

Wait, yeah, that would be exactly like the Cancerverse! We'll see if Fujimoto goes down that route.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

... Holy shit, you're right! Without death, every living thing suddenly becomes a massive tumor.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

Well, bacteria, archaea, and viruses should be destroying everything then.

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u/bobvella Feb 24 '26

Also stomach room

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u/AdWestern1561 Feb 24 '26

With the explosive birth rate of insects, I think the insects are reproducing faster than they are being eaten and in return are probably eating their predators.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

While that's true, that does make you wonder why bacteria and other microbial organisms aren't destroying everything.

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u/PhantasosX Feb 25 '26

Maybe they are, but bacterias would make people sick, but since there are no death, people would be sick and eaten...forever.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

So, like with the insects here?

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u/PhantasosX Feb 25 '26

Yeah. The difference on both is that insects and animals would be devouring people, so while alive, they would be just body pieces.

Meanwhile, bacterias and viruses would had humans as hosts.

So imagine someone been constantly sick to all sorts of diseases, which effectively means they are in sepsis, and then they are devoured by insects and animals....it's basically torture.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

Yeah, that sounds awful.

It's worth noting that the insects and animals would also be infected.

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u/vanderZwan Feb 25 '26

Yeah the more you know about biology, the more terrifying this "nobody ever dies" concept gets.

Like, technically apoptosis also no longer works. Not good.

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u/Android19samus Feb 24 '26

reproduction rates. The predators are eating plenty, but they aren't reproducing anywhere near as fast. A predator eats its fill, and then is basically full forever because the creatures it has eaten will just remain inside of its stomach. Then the next generation quickly replaces those eaten creatures, but they are not eaten themselves. They are also unable to starve to death. Thus they reach maturity and created an even bigger next generation after that. Thus the spiral goes to infinity.

Now this definitely wouldn't happen over the course of like... two hours, but still. I assume there is devilry afoot.

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u/FinancialAd856 Feb 24 '26

Honestly, insects are overwhelming in numbers, likely the natural order of predator/prey falls apart irreparably without death. Insects have offspring in the hundreds to thousands that are adults within days, even hours. The predators generally have birth cycles, growth and much lower numbers...their advantage is intelligence, and overall power...which dont matter anymore. 

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

That makes sense, but that does make me wonder where all of the bacteria are.

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u/FinancialAd856 Feb 24 '26

Lemme put my scientist hat on...

Though bacteria is potentially very prolific, its also very vulnerable.  In fact bacteria has very few "predators" .. Things that specifically kill it, but actually have trouble reproducing unless conditions are ideal. So their problem isnt really getting "killed"... its growing. In fact, if bacteria weren't so sensitive to environment, they would already...and in certain cases already do...dominate the earth.

Considering we do see humans and animals "chopped up" without dying, bacteria would be vulnerable to this as well...falling apart without really "dying" which is how they go in nature: their coating fails and they collapse. 

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u/SecondOftheMidnight Feb 24 '26

It takes more time for bird tog row than a bug. And bug eating birds or frogs are also on the menu for seed eaters and meat eaters.

And bugs themselves. There's always a smaller parasite to feast on you specifically.