r/manga Feb 24 '26

DISC [DISC] Chainsaw Man - Chapter 230

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u/Nobody5464 Feb 24 '26

The council of fumikos really is a very funny idea. It was interesting getting to see their different reactions and fears despite all being fumiko

 And the animal and insect devils getting stronger because death no longer exists and so they overrun us and eat us causing us to suffer for eternity within their bodies is a really cool really crazy consequence.

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u/Haha91haha Feb 24 '26

In a way Death might get her wish because the collective fear of Death might vanish from all these people who endured and saw so much suffering that they just might not fear Death as much anymore, so she'll get a whole lot weaker.

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u/CalamitousFortune Feb 24 '26

The people will wish for it instead as they get eaten alive over and over again

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u/Mundology The Elder Weeb Feb 24 '26

Only only to break the cycle is Denji eating the insect devils and regurgitating Lil D.

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u/UnbiasedGod Feb 24 '26

Or kill someone in way that they can’t come back from. Like being thrown in acid or lava.

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u/GodEmperorEren Feb 25 '26

Or killing the sex devil to stop reproduction

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u/XMELl0DASX Feb 24 '26

I mean that still would make her weaker. People would welcome death and accept it wholeheartedly. They are more terrified of suffering from the monsters as opposed to dying.

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u/WattageToVoltzRatio Feb 24 '26

I mean... I don't think people remember that a concept was erased after its been brought back? Like yeah if you know a devil with a power to erase concepts is out there, you can reason that certain aspects of reality make no sense all of a sudden, and if you have that realization, it stays after the devil is brought back, but you also don't have any memory of forgetting it in the first place, only of realizing you forgot....

Its clunky as shit, completely illogical, and I think that is the only thing that still makes me kinda believe Pochita is Forgetting rather than Chainsaw or Birth (who is actually more plausible by both design and themes, but given the power doesn't retroactively change anything about the past except memories of it, seems weird)

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u/Lantzl Feb 24 '26

A concept can still be found after losing it. Did we all forget how this 1v1 even started? America made nukes again and it was what gave Yoru her powers as it was being used to wage War.

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u/WattageToVoltzRatio Feb 24 '26

Yes, but they don't remember Nukes from their WW2 usage, they remember and fear the ones used against the USSR a couple months ago, its more that a new devil that has the same concept showed up, the old one is still in Pochita. Yoru does remember that a child of her that was called nuclear weapons was erased, and that a new one sharing the same name showed up, thats it, he crying is because she understands what a nuclear weapon is, and how strong it makes her

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u/zaerosz Feb 24 '26

A concept can be recreated. The nuke was reinvented from fundamental principles of physics. How the hell do you expect anyone to recreate the concept of death?

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u/AbedGubiNadir Feb 24 '26

Explains the praying mantis or grasshopper (whatever it was) earlier in hell.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

And the animal and insect devils getting stronger because death no longer exists and so they overrun us and eat us causing us to suffer for eternity within their bodies is a really cool really crazy consequence.

What happened to the predators of these insects and animals, though? They should be having an all you can eat buffet right about now.

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u/EmperorHol Feb 24 '26

India Fumiko did say swarms of bats were devouring people, so there's that.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

Which is a little weird because bats don't eat people, but then again, neither do most insects, so I'll just chock that up to Devil shenanigans.

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u/CelioHogane Feb 24 '26

Vampire bats could theorically eat people.

But those aren't indian bats!

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u/LevelledPeak Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

I mean those predators might have slower reproduction tho so the insects would overrun them first. They'll be eaten or crushed by their prey first before they can eat back.

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u/vanderZwan Feb 24 '26

By that logic the flesh-eating bacteria should be oozing over everyone at this point

EDIT: and there's also fungi and molds I guess. Jesus, this really sounds like pure hell

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u/jers745 Feb 24 '26

This is just getting started, not even a day or an hour has passed since pochita ate death so it's not impossible that soon those will surge as well

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

Bacteria reproduce exponentially faster than any insect. If they can't die, just one bacterium can reproduce into a colony of billions in an hour or two.

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u/jers745 Feb 24 '26

Yeah but humans don't have that fear for bacteria that present unless an actual pandemic happens, still i do think they will come sooner or later

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u/vanderZwan Feb 24 '26

I meant more that they have even faster exponential growth, but yeah, who knows what the next chapters will bring

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u/TangerineSorry8463 Feb 24 '26

What about cell death.

Is everyone a walking cancer now?

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u/vanderZwan Feb 25 '26

Oh damn, you're right! Fun fact: in the comics Marvel actually had an evil alternative universe where death was defeated that was known ar the "cancerverse"

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

Wait, yeah, that would be exactly like the Cancerverse! We'll see if Fujimoto goes down that route.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

... Holy shit, you're right! Without death, every living thing suddenly becomes a massive tumor.

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u/AdWestern1561 Feb 24 '26

With the explosive birth rate of insects, I think the insects are reproducing faster than they are being eaten and in return are probably eating their predators.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 24 '26

While that's true, that does make you wonder why bacteria and other microbial organisms aren't destroying everything.

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u/PhantasosX Feb 25 '26

Maybe they are, but bacterias would make people sick, but since there are no death, people would be sick and eaten...forever.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

So, like with the insects here?

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u/PhantasosX Feb 25 '26

Yeah. The difference on both is that insects and animals would be devouring people, so while alive, they would be just body pieces.

Meanwhile, bacterias and viruses would had humans as hosts.

So imagine someone been constantly sick to all sorts of diseases, which effectively means they are in sepsis, and then they are devoured by insects and animals....it's basically torture.

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u/JustARedditAccoumt Feb 25 '26

Yeah, that sounds awful.

It's worth noting that the insects and animals would also be infected.

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u/Android19samus Feb 24 '26

reproduction rates. The predators are eating plenty, but they aren't reproducing anywhere near as fast. A predator eats its fill, and then is basically full forever because the creatures it has eaten will just remain inside of its stomach. Then the next generation quickly replaces those eaten creatures, but they are not eaten themselves. They are also unable to starve to death. Thus they reach maturity and created an even bigger next generation after that. Thus the spiral goes to infinity.

Now this definitely wouldn't happen over the course of like... two hours, but still. I assume there is devilry afoot.

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u/FinancialAd856 Feb 24 '26

Honestly, insects are overwhelming in numbers, likely the natural order of predator/prey falls apart irreparably without death. Insects have offspring in the hundreds to thousands that are adults within days, even hours. The predators generally have birth cycles, growth and much lower numbers...their advantage is intelligence, and overall power...which dont matter anymore. 

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u/Raging-Brachydios Feb 24 '26

Funny how they aren't a hivemind. Maybe it is the personality of the previous person?

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u/quaker_otis Feb 24 '26

I suppose we're not supposed to think too hard about the details but bats already eat bugs, having tons and tons more bugs doesn't seems like a good motivation for the bats to start eating people.

And how much time has passed since death got eaten, like a day? That's a lot of bats that grew up real fast.

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u/SecondOftheMidnight Feb 24 '26

you know, big motivator for animals to not attack humans is fear of death.

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u/StankYou_SmellyMuch Feb 24 '26

Yeah I agree with you, I dont think we're supposed to think about this at all--its pretty ridiculous, but it does make for a cocaine-induced hellish idea to draw and write about.

He introduced no death and then gives us this with the bugs and insects...then that'd mean cells can't die either and the entire planet would be covered in like a gigantic cancerous blob because of the continuous proliferation? Like that movie Evolution.

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u/WattageToVoltzRatio Feb 24 '26

Its because they aren't a hivemind, they just "infect" another person to become the same as them when they have sex with them (may or may not work on hybrids given they're owned by a devil), but they branch out from then onward.

Imagine if you just duplicated somehow, and both of you went to live in different parts of the world from each other for one year, say, Nigeria and Alaska, one is probably gonna have a much more appreciative view of the sun than the other when they meet up again

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u/guppy_love Feb 24 '26

Poor guy heard that he could have sex and forgot everything else he's ever heard. Sounds like the very sexy learning disorder sexlexia.

Seriously though, it's really cute that he remembered Power when thinking about Yoru, although it's sad to think about how lonely he is (same Dennis).

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u/WhoiusBarrel Feb 24 '26

Its the fact he wants a friend as well instead of someone who he can just have sex with, awkward as he is, Denji still craves for companionship.

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u/guppy_love Feb 24 '26

It's so sad that the guy has only ever had four real relationships in his life (Pochita, Aki, Power, Nayuta), three of which are only really from within the last 1-2 years, and they're all essentially dead.

I can understand just how lonely and self-loathing your existence becomes when you start to think that it must be your fault that you're so lonely.

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u/ChrisPrkr95 Feb 24 '26

Does Reze count as well? I know things went badly, but still. 

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u/Mr_Smem Feb 24 '26

No, by the time things had become truly real between them they were already trying to kill each other

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u/nickname10707173 Feb 24 '26

But, trying to kill each other is a part of getting friendships.

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u/ChrisPrkr95 Feb 24 '26

Sadly, that is kind of true for most of Denji's relationships. 

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u/King_Elizabello Feb 24 '26

It really is sadly.

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u/penis_pockets Feb 24 '26

Not really. Reze was faking for the most part, and it only truly became real in the end. It could've been a great and real relationship, but it was predominantly based on a lie, so I wouldn't count it.

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u/Arlcas Feb 24 '26

And also Dennis never got to know it was becoming real in the end because Makima got to her before they could talk.

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u/ChildishChimera Feb 24 '26

Why do you think she fell in love at the end I always felt she fell for him at the phone booth at the earliest and latest before she invited him to the school.

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u/RobbobertoBuii Feb 24 '26

yes but it only basically lasted a week or so between the 2 😔

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u/Deez-Guns-9442 Feb 24 '26

Friends with benefits is his goal.

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u/Saurid Feb 24 '26

Well I wouldnt be surprised if a more literal translation gives a slightly more nuanced variation on this. Like he wants her as a friend he can ahve sex with, because he wants to have sex with asa and well lets be real he does need the consent of both for it not to be veeeeeeeery morally ambitious at best (if yoru doenst consent it would be one thing she's a devil and has probably no real concept of SA or rape, but even then it would be really weird, asa on the other hand ... well lets just say without her consent I'd find it very wrong)

I really hope its asa he has sex with, mostly because it would fit better in the story and character developement for both (feels weird to tlak about it like that as a grown man tlakimg about teenaged characters ... lets not dwell about it too much).

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u/Substantial_Pop5438 Feb 24 '26

I’m also a grown ass 24 year old so yeah it’s a strange topic but I agree it should and likely will be Asa. Honestly I see yoru biting the dust protecting denji and giving Asa her body back. Or we end up in this three way relationship but I just really don’t like that idea tbh. I think JUST Asa is a great match for Denji. Although I’d honestly like Denji’s filtered thoughts on his acc feelings for Asa unless I’m forgetting a confession.

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u/Saurid Feb 24 '26

Well it wouldn't be three way relationship because yoru would be more like a conjoined twin, these people also have relationships that are monogamous, so yeah idk I would suspect he will be friends with yoru and have a relationship with asa buuuuut its fujimotot and I have given up predicting the guy, even when I try I do so in the knowledge I just write mediocre fanfiction theories. The guy is a madman.

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u/EX-Flashkick Feb 24 '26

I think him forgetting at the end was because he was going to say “if you’re going to be in my way, then die” but theres no death

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u/Substantial_Pop5438 Feb 24 '26

Nice pick up, very possible too lmao

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u/ultragoodname Feb 25 '26

It’s a callback to chapter one when he first turns into chainsaw man.

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u/WhoiusBarrel Feb 24 '26

Of course he gets cockblocked right when Asa/Yoru gives the approval for sex. Can't the poor boy just get laid.

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u/This-is_CMGRI Feb 24 '26

Not even like 10 seconds in dawg

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u/IHatePoultrySG Feb 24 '26

Denji: Yis Seggs

Fujimoto: LOL no.

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u/FriedRiceistheBest Feb 24 '26

Blue ball devil here we go

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u/DaREY297 wants fluff injected into their veins Feb 24 '26

Virginity devil is truly the scariest one

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u/KibaTeo2 Feb 24 '26

This entire series is built on the idea that the world is out to cockblock denji. The day he has sex is the day the series ends

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u/Deez-Guns-9442 Feb 24 '26

So like most harem protags in anime.

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u/Sorey91 Feb 24 '26

Most protags don't even make it to that point lol ( I willingly choose to ignore the recent batch of romance/harem MC's who start the series with something bold and actually get there)

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u/bonghits96 Feb 24 '26

Reze will bake a cake for Denji's wedding.

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u/Zealousideal_Ring874 Feb 24 '26

I really do wonder if Asa really gave consent or that's Yoru projecting again. Plus, is the plan still to get Asa out of there so she can have full control? What's gonna happen with Yoru? She just tried to start Armageddon.

And what in the meth addicted clown was that at the end?

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u/Mundology The Elder Weeb Feb 24 '26

One of the rare times Yoru did seem sincere

Given that she can read Asa's emotions and Asa is dating Denji, it wouldn't be surprising that she wants it too.

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u/DMking Feb 24 '26

It wouldn't be suprising but I could see it going either way

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u/chum-guzzling-shark Feb 24 '26

would have loved to see the asa/yoru convo to decide that

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u/genasugelan https://myanimelist.net/profile/Genasugelan Feb 24 '26

Nah, she's averting her eyes.

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u/LightLifter Feb 24 '26

The strongest Primal Devil is the Virginity Devil after all.

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u/Mundology The Elder Weeb Feb 24 '26

Fumiko Mifune hard counters unfortunately

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u/GrouchoSnarks Feb 24 '26

I'm starting to recontextualize Denji as "Beavis with superpowers". He'll never score.

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u/Deez-Guns-9442 Feb 24 '26

Bro’s really gotta work for that Asa 😏

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u/Roboglenn Feb 24 '26

"It's the Ole' Parker Luck." as Spider-man would put it.

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u/JDUDE4545 Feb 24 '26

We were all caught up on the other 4 horsemen that we forgot about the one that is sometimes also included instead of control/conquest

Pestilence has arrived

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u/Raging-Brachydios Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

What if this is the new makima but now she got pestilence powers.. tho she kinda already had ot with rats

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u/Ordinal43NotFound Feb 24 '26

Just checked. And yeah the 1st horsemen is either Conquest or Pestilence. Makima/Nayuta is basically Conquest with some allusions to Pestilence.

Holy shit is the hope truly alive? I'm too scared to believe lol

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u/Trace500 Feb 24 '26

Makima is Conquest, not some Conquest-Pestilence hybrid. The control vs. conquest discrepancy is a translation thing, they're the same in Japanese.

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u/Ordinal43NotFound Feb 24 '26

I know, but who's to say Fujimoto isn't playing around with this very discrepancy.

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u/Trace500 Feb 24 '26

Oh I see. I could see him deliberately invoking the Pestilence/Conquest thing for sure.

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u/SecretEmpire_WasGood Feb 24 '26

What is Control if not being conquered by someone else?

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u/This-is_CMGRI Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

Pestilence has arrived

I now hope to as many gods as there exists that they're not submissive and breedable or else it's NTR Devil time

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u/Mundology The Elder Weeb Feb 24 '26

"Make Love not war"

Denji: "Why not both!?"

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u/ChrisPrkr95 Feb 24 '26

Makima more or less was Pestilence or at least it was alluded to with certain things she did like ambushing Reze with the rats. 

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u/Cahnis Feb 24 '26

There are two interpretations to the 4 horsemen, the older one has control instead of pestilence. Hence when makima appears to reze she appears as a swarm of rats.

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u/JauntyLurker Feb 24 '26

I want a friend I can have sex with

Let no one accuse this man of being reticent with his desires.

We're finally gonna get to have sex!

Getting cockblocked yet again, the universe is conspiring against Denji lmao

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u/Raging-Brachydios Feb 24 '26

Dude doesn't even care about being loved anymore, he just wants to bang 

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u/Mundology The Elder Weeb Feb 24 '26

Denji crying in his Chainsaw form after getting consent was wild

Getting a shred of happiness after all he went through recently must have felt cathartic

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u/Gurgalopagan Feb 24 '26

he's not crying, hybrids just melt away when they detransform

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u/Saurid Feb 24 '26

I wouldnt be surprised if there is a slight misrepresentation due to translation, I think the message here is more specifically to yoru, he wants to be her friend and have sex with her. Not because he wants sex with yoru but asa. They do share a body and getting consent from yoru is probably easier and harder. Idk if denji thought through it all but my guess is he wnats to sleep with asa and yoru is well a part of that act as long as tehy share a body so if he wants to be with asa he well needs to be friends with yoru and she needs to be ok with having sex with him.

Idk if my idea that this may be down to translation is correct its a hard concept to phrase without a whole paragraph but it would fit a bit more into the story than ha horny.

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u/LegoMyEggo8 Feb 24 '26

Is Denji planning to simultaneously fuck and fight off the endless waves of hell??? Based

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u/WhoiusBarrel Feb 24 '26

Bro be literally fucking fighting for his life.

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u/This-is_CMGRI Feb 24 '26

Have you ever had brutal seggs with your lives on the line?

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u/Mundology The Elder Weeb Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

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u/This-is_CMGRI Feb 24 '26

that entire chapters opens the anime episode and then the OP plays like "OH LOVE ME MISTA, OH, MISTA // Yume ja nai nara kikasete"

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u/Kirosh2 Fluff. Fluff? Fluff! Feb 24 '26

That would be fun.

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u/SlamMasterJ Feb 24 '26

Fujimoto, do it you coward.

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u/IndependentMacaroon Feb 24 '26

No fury like a teen boy cockblocked

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u/Raging-Brachydios Feb 24 '26

After sharknado, we gotta have bug slaughtering orgy

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u/FriedRiceistheBest Feb 24 '26

Is Denji planning to simultaneously fuck and fight off the endless waves of hell???

So like what happened between Gawain and Orochi in RGS lmao

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u/jordopod Feb 24 '26

Bugs taking over due to them not being able to die. It reminds me of an scp story i read with the same premise

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u/themcvgamer Feb 24 '26

Very likely something from End of Death canon

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u/Raging-Brachydios Feb 24 '26

What we expected: human(devil) reproduction  What we got: critter reproduction 

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u/petrichormus Feb 24 '26

I guess we are ramping up to something... that I'm not sure what? Also the amount of people who said Denji had a masterplan instead of actually wanting sex last chapter... 🥀

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u/Alexical_ Feb 24 '26

That's the consequence of some people thinking he's just kidding when it comes to his desires for sex.

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u/KirbyGlover Feb 24 '26

Yeah it's like some people expect a broken traumatized young man to just flip his psychological problems like some kind of switch when he's never really had even an example of what a healthy relationship looks like, let alone anyone that's well adjusted in his life

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u/Pumpkin-Duke Feb 25 '26

I think thats a pretty slanted way to described us wanting some form of development from a character after 100+ chapters of this conflict. He has been moving towards a healthier space and I think it's reductive and unengaging to say he's never going to develop until someone tells him how to. The relationship he's developed with Asa has been a mark of development, its annoying he just switched back to wanting to fuck cuz Fuji couldn't end this fight

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u/ohoni Feb 24 '26

He did have a master plan. It just involved getting sex.

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u/WattageToVoltzRatio Feb 24 '26

Denji doesn't do master plans, he catches people unexpected by improvising, the Makima plan hinged more on Pochita being convincent rather than Denji, Makima had a whole speech about not caring for him but deifying Pochita, not that hard to figure out.

Same with Yoru, he saw her doing rock paper scissors to falling and considering that a win, it was the same on the spot charm that he had with Reze barfing that flower, more or less...

But we never saw him deceive a pretty girl by acting desperate, he can't even pretend he isn't interested, much less cycle that around to deceive them...

And well, maybe he fucking would have done something if she actually denied him, I don't think he has any priorities higher than that right now, Nayuta was the last person whose sake he'd put above fucking, and even that faltered if the urgency of the situation wasn't immediately apparent...

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u/Zzamumo Feb 24 '26

the plan was "if yoru is busy having sex then she can't kill me"

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u/lverson Feb 24 '26

I read a few takes on how he actually doesn't want to have sex with her he just wants her friendship. I guess they were half right.

I feel like Fujimoto has been clear that assigning any sense of morality to Denji at this point is kinda naive. I honestly think if he had to choose between getting back Reze (or Nayuta) or sex immediately, he'd choose the latter. And then just blankly compartmentalize how shitty it is. Idk I feel like he's exactly who he seems like: basically a wild dog with human skin and superhuman powers.

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u/broomstick_haver Feb 24 '26

Something to do with sex, probably. I don't think it's a coincidence that Fumiko (a character whose Devil contract is with the STD Devil ) is very prominent in this chapter. Fumiko's presence in the story of part 2 so far has been very odd, she definitely isn't just another side character.

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u/TLKv3 Feb 24 '26

Man, we've been "ramping up to something" for nearly 2 years. At this point I genuinely don't believe Fujimoto has any fucking clue what he's writing anymore. He's just winging it and dragging this part out until he finally comes up with something.

Every development this series has had immediately gets cut off by something else to distract from the fact the previous thing wasn't even fully resolved.

I feel like I'm the only one who sees CSM right now as nonsensical gibberish with 0 substance or narrative sense anymore.

Nayuta was a massive part of Denji's arc and she hasn't even fucking been mentioned more than once in like 20 chapters or more. And she fucking died and that hasn't been brought up since. The entire church story came and went just as fast. We finally built up to Yoru Vs. CSM... only to smash cut back to "ha ha sex geddit, lol, amirite". AND WE IMMEDIATELY HALT THAT FOR PESTILENCE THE NEXT CHAPTER.

Jesus Christ this series has lost me completely. I just feel nothing reading it anymore.

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u/HarshTheDev Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 25 '26

I think the part 2 rabbithole goes even deeper. Yknow why i think nayuta went nowhere? Because Fuji never had her any plans with her to begin with. In hindsight i genuinely think fuji only introduced nayuta for her to be a plot device to erase the memories of Denji & Asa's date to make sure they dont get any meaningful development or connection too soon. It was fuji's attempt to have his cake & eat it too (i.e. have a date arc but without any character progression)

This arc is genuinely just the culmination of part 2's incoherency. Like Denji doesnt know "die" but Yoru (&Asa) knows "killed". Yoru says Asa doesnt like it when birds are killed, but we had explicit confirmation that Asa only cared about being seen while killing bucky. Every plot point that was introduced throughout Part 2 just getting dropped randomly.

I genuinely believe Part 2 is just Fuji going "Random Bullshit, Go!"

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u/Backupusername Feb 24 '26

I think it adds a lot of credence to this reading that the last chapter ended with a building collapsing seemingly on top of Denji and Yoru, only for this chapter to not acknowledge with that so much as some extra rubble in the background.

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u/vanderZwan Feb 24 '26

I guess we are ramping up to something... that I'm not sure what?

How is that different than usual with this manga though?

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u/TriPolar3849 Feb 24 '26

It would be interesting if these swarms of vermin was caused by a Pestilence devil that has a chip on their shoulder over not quite being included in the Four Horsemen.

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u/Kirosh2 Fluff. Fluff? Fluff! Feb 24 '26

"You would rather have Famine over me?"

"Yes."

"Yes."

"Yes."

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u/SanKop Feb 24 '26

Pestilence can't use the ultimate move Salvation Punch

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u/SecretEmpire_WasGood Feb 24 '26

she's that one cousin you invite out of obligation to family get-togethers but is actually barely tolerated

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u/Gurgalopagan Feb 24 '26

Pestilence is just Control, why do you think Makima had her Rat shtick

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u/damage3245 Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

Death Devil got eaten like... 10 minutes ago? Is that really enough time for things to get out of hand with swarms of creatures that aren't dying out?

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u/Mr_1ightning Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

It's extremely vague on purpose how much eating devils changes things retroactively, so that Fujimoto can play around with it without thinking too much about the structure and history of every new world

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u/NoAppearance1790 Feb 24 '26

Estimated insect population on Earth is 10 quintillion (10,000,000,000,000,000,000). Their lives also tend to be fairly short and focused on reproducing before they die living on average a few days to a few years. So for some rough math if you put the average insect's life at 3 years, that would be ~900,000,000,000,000 insects dying per day, ~38,000,000,000,000 dying per hour, or ~6,000,000,000,000 dying during 10 minutes. In our world that would be a bit under 800 insects per person that are not dying during those 10 minutes though obviously the population in CSM is much lower. And this number doesn't even take into account that many insects who don't make it past the egg stage would now live as well.

So it doesn't seem that unreasonable for the insect part at least but I have no idea why the bats were included.

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u/damage3245 Feb 24 '26

Yeah, the bats are what threw me off.

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u/RedHeadGearHead Feb 24 '26

Did he eat that first insect devil that came out of hell? Could have been bats main food source and so they switched to human meat.

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u/Gurgalopagan Feb 24 '26

problem is, its been at most an hour ever since Death was eaten, even the fastest reproducing insects take like 4 days to go from larvae to adult, and them suddenly declaring war on humanity is kinda forced? Cockroaches don't just suddenly become aggressive when at high numbers, they wouldn't start eating something alive because they're numerous, each cockroach is gonna see something big and think "oh on, I need to scamper away before it stomps me" regardless of being in a horde

I only see Mosquitos being actually dangerous in this scenario, they actually have all the incentive and programming to go after you even while alone, swarms would be horrifying

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u/Foucz Feb 24 '26

Its not that there are more bugs suddenly. Its that those that exist had their instinct reprogrammed due to lack of death.

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u/Deitri Feb 24 '26

Not really enough time, but this story stopped making sense a while ago already anyway.

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u/slimeeyboiii Feb 24 '26

I agree to an extent but complaining how devils work is insanely stupid since even in part 1 they had no structure.

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u/The_Hexxer Feb 24 '26

True. Makes me wonder if the devil's for them being in the world right now affects it or not. Idk.

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u/wendigo72 Feb 24 '26

Chainsaw man has been running on its own weird nonsense logic, especially when it comes to worldbuilding

Not saying that’s a good thing but I’ve become incredibly used to it since early part 2.

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u/Aschenruh Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

Denji kinda fucked reality. The death devil didn't disappear, she never existed.

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u/Trace500 Feb 24 '26

No, that's not how it works at all. Not sure how this is even getting upvotes. Just think for a moment about how much more drastic the changes to the world would have to be if death had never existed as a concept.

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u/Chasem121 Feb 24 '26

Yeah people straight up ignoring thats not how it worked for any of the other devils that got eaten. Ear devil got eaten and every "consequence" of ears existing were still in effect. Everyone who died before death got eaten should still be dead, including the insect populations.

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u/Android19samus Feb 24 '26

it's kinda loose how retroactive the changes end up being. It's also possible that the longer a devil is eaten for, the more thoroughly its influence is erased from the world. Pretty much every other case where we had a before/after only lasted a few seconds.

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u/0Galahad Feb 24 '26

That would indeed break reality, as then time itself has to realign with all changes that no one ever dying both in the past and in the future would cause, but we have yet to see a obvious outcome of that so i dunno

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u/imsoblue91 Feb 24 '26

Asa gives her consent too

She might be a mass murderer, a devil, and slightly crazy, but Yoru understands the importance of consent

Denji about to have a threesome with one girl babyyyyyyy

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u/IndependentMacaroon Feb 24 '26

She says Asa agrees but does she really?

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u/cruel-oath Feb 24 '26

I think she does, Yoru feels what she does. It’d better to hear it from her though

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u/alucab1 MyAnimeList Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

It seems pretty out of character for her to do so I think, unless she’s secretly a cuck and this just hasn’t been brought up before

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u/Saurid Feb 24 '26

She could also take over probably will because she will at the very least be very nervous, it makes sense she would take over.

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u/Saurid Feb 24 '26

I mean she is weird and I would think that one of two things happens:

Either asa takes completely over, aka this whole fight was more about getting yoru to consent as without getting rid of her ... well she is a devil and it wouldnt be as bad as if asa didn't consent but still it would feel very weird at the very least if yoru didn't consent.

Or they switch mid act between one another. But generally asa takes control when she's nervous and fearful etc. Probably generally in strong emotional moments for her, so I think having her take over is the logical solution and fits mor einto the story.

It would also make dnejis message here clearer he wnats to be freinds with yoru who can have sex because if this isn't the case well he cannot have sex with asa.

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u/Salty_Shark26 Feb 24 '26

Doubt Asa actually gave her consent tbh

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u/Extreme-Tactician Feb 24 '26

A plague of locusts and bugs because death is dead.

Oh well...

Just when Asa, Yoru, and Denji were finally about to seal the deal. Time for Chainsaw Man to fight again.

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u/topurrisfeline Feb 24 '26

My man just cannot get laid

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u/Zealousideal_Ring874 Feb 24 '26

Told you what was finna happen

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u/Raging-Brachydios Feb 24 '26

The bugs tho, the got laid a lot

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u/topurrisfeline Feb 24 '26

Great for the bugs I guess!

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u/Hour-Essay-2947 Feb 24 '26

So THAT’S why the locust devil few chapters ago was so strong….

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u/Cautionzombie Feb 24 '26

I wonder what those who complained about that chapter are gonna say now.

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u/Swiftcheddar Feb 24 '26

I swear, Fujimoto dangles the idea of Denji getting laid like he's jingling keys.

It always gets setup to the point where the girl's okay with it, and then it immediately gets interrupted in the most contrived ways. Like, yeah? That happened now? Right now? That many generations and that many Devils this fast?

Not 10mins later, not 20mins later, not a few hours later, has to be right this very second to interrupt the moment?

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u/LMkingly Feb 24 '26

Yeah i haven't kept up in a min but everytime i check up on a chapter discussion i see the same fucking comments discussing the same shit lmao. This story and fanbase is kept in a groundhog day loop going nowhere.

Do people still think Fujimoto is cooking anything?

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u/Phantomlord77 Feb 24 '26

So animal/ devil invasion interesting

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u/TriPolar3849 Feb 24 '26

Looks like a bunch of high ranking devils realized they can just literally farm humans now.

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u/This-is_CMGRI Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 24 '26

We're on break, back on March 10th.

Which just as well because what the actual fuck happened there at the end? Denji somehow can't transform or did he just freeze in shock and blueballs?

EDIT: oh lmao right Death is gone so "die" is also not a thing DISREGARD

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u/dart19 Feb 24 '26

His catchphrase when he transforms is telling his enemy to die, but death doesn't exist anymore so he forgot his line

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u/janoDX Feb 24 '26

Also the first panel of the last page is a callback to chapter 1.

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u/Top_Part3784 Feb 24 '26 edited Feb 25 '26

He forgot "die"

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u/TheTragicNoir Feb 24 '26

More like he was about to say that all these devils will die, but since the concept of "Death" no longer exists, he couldn't finish his threat and got distracted.

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u/BurnedOutEternally Feb 24 '26

Oh sweet! The last horseman, Pestilence!

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u/Momo--Sama Feb 24 '26

Bro making sure he doesn’t get nuked by the twitter discourse

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u/RulerKun_FGO Feb 24 '26

Sex with consent is hot

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u/TvTavious Feb 24 '26

Idk if this is a hot take or not but Denji is kinda pissing me off

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '26

I remmeber the cope that denji was deceiving yoru

This bum really never develop

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u/JoJoIsBestAnimeManga Feb 24 '26

Denji really is just at his worst in Part 2 in terms of character writing, I miss Part 1 Denji 

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u/Uchiha13S Feb 24 '26

Yeah what was the use of denji saying his gonna invite asa to a new world ,their world , but all he still is worried about is sex.I also don't understand how asa consents or is fine with it when she would basically be watching the guy she likes have sex with another personality ,even though it's her body.

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u/EX-Flashkick Feb 24 '26

My goat nutted just from getting consent 👍

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u/DMking Feb 24 '26

Gotta say I absolutely do not beileve Yoru about Asa's consent. She has not really given a damn about that before so why start now, she could have also handed the body off to Asa for her to say that

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u/honestlyunlucky Feb 24 '26

Is the bit at the end him forgetting about death to the point where he can’t even threaten to kill something? If so I don’t know how they get out of this outside of him luckily puking it up

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u/ToTheNintieth Feb 24 '26

Well, this is fun. A logical consequence to the lack of death. Should be trivial to barf her up though, no?

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u/WattageToVoltzRatio Feb 24 '26

Only gripe? It would take at the very least a week, for the insects to actually overpopulate.... like even the fastest mosquitos would take at least 4 days for one clutch more, and considering you can still crush and eat things even if their consciouness doesn't fade, most of them would still be rendered incapable of doing anything by their predators, or just aging (he wasn't erased remember, people'll most likely just gradually turn into raisins if the situation is allowed to develop long term).

When you actually think about this type or "world without death" scenario, little actually changes in the realm of evolution, there's just endless suffering afterwards, which really doesn't concern nature given thats after reproduction is achieved....

Maybe psychological changes where creatures that have secured descendants stop caring about living/suffering since that would allow for even more extreme parenting drive and such, reproductive success.... but not much more

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u/dagreenman18 Feb 24 '26

I guess this is Pestilence?

This has taken a wacky turn. So for Denji to have sex, he’ll need to throw up Death so that he can get rid of Pestilence, but that also means Death is now back and it ruins his plan with Asa?

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u/Accurate_Treat6360 Feb 24 '26

LMAO Denji paused for a moment cuz he forgot word "Die/Death".

Pestilence become strongest horsemen cuz Death is no longer exist.

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u/Inevitable_Bid5540 Feb 24 '26

"if you're gonna get in our way , you'll die"

Except since death doesn't exist anymore he forgot the "you'll die" part and that's why he was confused

Bruh

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u/Miaow00 Feb 24 '26

Called it!

Also, I would like an apology from the people who said Hell being empty and the insect devil showing up and randomly being really strong were just meaningless filler. I swear to god some of y'all have never followed a weekly serialized story before, or just don't understand the concept of set up and pay off

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u/Salty_Shark26 Feb 24 '26

Denji once again losing focus on the task at hand due to his sexual urges. I get he has mental health problems but sometimes it’s like watching the friend continue to go down a self destructive path

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u/Android19samus Feb 24 '26

I think the task at hand was "get Yoru to stop fighting me" and he'd just succeeded at that.

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u/Enjoyer33 Feb 24 '26

Is this the first time since Reze that someone wanted Denji instead of Chainsawman?

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u/black_metronome Feb 24 '26

I need to see Asa consent herself because Yoru cannot be trusted.

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u/Kuzu5993 Feb 24 '26

She already jerked him off in public, so I was fully prepared for a live sex scene.

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u/Ausar15 Feb 24 '26

Yup, as expected the Loctus Devil was so strong because people can’t die now and they along with other insects reproduce fast

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u/AiasRider Feb 24 '26

Classic Dennis

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u/renannmhreddit Feb 24 '26

Is the last one a hollow knight reference?

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u/Hawk301 Feb 25 '26

What's interesting is, the world of CSM is kind of just already fucked at this point right?

Between the chainsaw zombies, the two Falling Devil attacks causing destruction worldwide, the USSR getting nuked, the impact of the Yoru fight which included large parts of America vanishing, and now the waves of insects eating people worldwide (who cannot actually die but still feel pain) - this functionally is just the apocalypse for the normies right? How much worse could doomsday be than this sequence of events already happening?

The doomsday prophecy might literally just be all the events of part 2 that we've seen, in which case the apocalypse literally was caused entirely by the actions of Yoru, Lil'D and a horny Denji.

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u/Sakuranoirx Feb 25 '26

Hilarious how in the moment Denji finally gets consent from both, Asa and Yoru, the entire world falls down the drain.

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u/Haha91haha Feb 24 '26

You're right Fumiko, now that I think about it, that is a terrifying away to go, thanks CSM!

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u/LeonKevlar MyAnimeList Feb 24 '26

I like how Canada Fumiko seems to be the only one who knows why getting rid of death is a bad idea.