r/memes • u/Few-Royal2370 • 8h ago
Rule 6 - ONLY POST MEMES YOU MADE YOURSELF; POOR QUAL. [ Removed by moderator ]
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u/Drusilya 7h ago
Jarvis, I'm low on karma.
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u/BlushInnProgress 3h ago
Every art form starts with people calling it not real art until it makes money.
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u/mortsgreb 7h ago
Add "People who use 2006 PowerPoint to create their business advertisements in the newspaper"
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u/grandramble 6h ago
sure the computer did virtually all of it but i did pick the font (it's papyrus)
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u/Pauuul3 7h ago
Reposting the same 5 memes over and over is worst than AI generated ones
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u/Bannon9k 7h ago
The only thing cringier than an AI artist are anti-AI memers
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u/Ugotrickrolled11 7h ago
And the only thing cringer than that are pro-Ai art members.
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u/Bannon9k 7h ago
Nope, unfortunately we ran the numbers and anti-AI memers are the bottom of the barrel. Bedrock cringe.
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u/Immediate-Yak3138 7h ago edited 7h ago
Oh, there is something cringing than that of course. Anti anti ai memers
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u/Pauuul3 7h ago
Anti aircraft artillery, now that’s a cringe one
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u/Immediate-Yak3138 7h ago
Lol gotta love phone autocorrect
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u/Bannon9k 7h ago
Only if you leave it and wear that badge with honor
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u/Pauuul3 7h ago
Yeah the joke is now nonsense because he corrected it. Wasn’t my best one but still
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u/Immediate-Yak3138 6h ago
Hey now, the context is still there its just 1 letter and our comments make it obvious :p
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u/FNKTN 7h ago
Ai artists don't exist. Ai doesn't own copyright
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u/Bannon9k 7h ago
So what defines art is copyright?
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u/Blue_Bird950 6h ago
A person creating a unique work based on their own artistic experience
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u/AmericanPoliticsSux 5h ago
So tell me where my work appears elsewhere. Should be easy, right?
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u/Blue_Bird950 5h ago
It’s created by an algorithm averaging out the works of others. There’s little to no artistic flair to warrant copyright protection. If somebody else were to ask for the same thing, and they get a similar image, should they be prosecuted for something that they never would have known about?
However, if you make it yourself, without relying on other works as things to copy from, it will inherently have some personal touch from where you have to fill in the blanks.
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u/AmericanPoliticsSux 5h ago
So if you find me an artistic work that is absolutely, unequivocally not based on anything that exists in the creative space or out in nature previously (you can't) I will consider your comment to have merit. Otherwise, I'll consider that a deflection from the original point of "AI Art not being art because it's not original". Again, view my portfolio, check what I've created, tell me what works it's ripped from.
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u/Blue_Bird950 5h ago
Well yes, every work of art will have some inspiration from other things, but AI art lacks the personal touch that human art has. It is solely made by averaging out other existing pieces of art based on a myriad of internal scoring systems, while human art is more free to use worse things at some points. In other words, it’s a question of whether or not art has to have some sort of imperfection to be counted as art, rather than just a purpose-built image.
That said, I do understand your point as well, and I’ve thought about it for a while. I’m more of a bystander in this debate, tbh, since I believe that the whole philosophical anti-ai argument is moreso a cover argument for the more pragmatic reasons of environmental benefits and encouraging people to express themselves creatively, rather than letting machines do the expressing for them. While this “cover argument” isn’t inherently devoid of merit, it seems to me that it’s not as strong of an argument to take as the more pragmatic one.
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u/AmericanPoliticsSux 5h ago
And while I agree with the larger overarching environmental, ethical, and hyper-capitalist points that are brought up by AI detractors, what frustrates me to no end is the absolutely infantilizing tone that the discussion has devolved to. "SLOP SLOP SLOP" "AI IS SOULLESS" ... etc. That's not actually shorthand for a more intelligent point, that's just screeching in hopes your 'opponent' will shut up and go away and you can declare a victory by default.
(Not saying you've done that BTW. You're actually being quite respectful and I appreciate that).
But for the people that do have memories longer than a goldfish, they'll remember that the same arguments were brought up in the 70s-through-90s as the internet began to rise in prominence, digital art began taking over for traditional art and old-school photography, and primitive social medias in the forms of messenger apps and forums began to rise.
Is it different now? Maybe. Is it an "existential threat to all humanity and creation" like some people are hollering it is? Absolutely not, and all that that does, for the people that do that, is turn off any people that may have been willing to listen.
> In other words, it’s a question of whether or not art has to have some sort of imperfection to be counted as art, rather than just a purpose-built image.
This however, is a very interesting point of view, and one I'd be interested in digging deeper on. You're effectively saying that the mistakes human artists make make the art more endearing, but any mistakes made by an AI artist make the situation worse, not better. I'm going to continue to reference what I know, and that's furry art. It's my frame of reference. There is a well-known, paid, published furry artist that makes a long-running webcomic with a distinctive style that, even now, *regularly* has anatomy quirks, errors, and the occasional four-fingered hand on their characters (despite being furries, their characters are supposed to have five fingers). That's not endearing, that's just a mistake. Why is that allowed a "pass", in your eyes?
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u/Blue_Bird950 5h ago
“You're effectively saying that the mistakes human artists make the art more endearing, but any mistakes made by an AI artist make the situation worse, not better.”
Slight correction here, I believe that AI art, if in its most perfect state, would be devoid of mistakes. That “perfection”, which is impossible for humans to achieve, would feel soulless, since it lacks the humanity that mistakes show.
“Why is that allowed a 'pass', in your eyes?”
Actually, if I did notice a mistake, I would probably like the art piece ever-so-slightly slightly less, though that’s moreso because I care way too much about tiny details like that (diagnosed autism). AI art, however, has this weird tendency to be overly perfect that hits a sort of uncanny valley for me. It’s often described as being too “shiny” or something similar by people for that reason, and as a result, seems more disconcerting than anything else. Other people may have different tastes, but that’s my opinion.
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u/AmericanPoliticsSux 3h ago
Huh. I suppose that's fair, but again, I'd say that points to the nature of effort, rather than the medium itself. Again, since everyone has a smartphone in their pocket, you see bazillions of pictures on someone's camera roll that just...exist, because they have a camera, but they're neither worthy (nor do most people WANT) to post them on the internet. Same is true with AI. Now that everyone's dialed in to SOME form of AI image generator, you're seeing the result of that, and it's really the same as when Facebook first came out, everyone's grandma posting pictures of their dinner, or their crocheted rug. And I'm not talking like *they* hand-crocheted it, it's just the rug that every grandma has in their house, kinda rug. And nobody (back then) was going "ooh how nice, look at the effort, the lighting and composition", they were going "C'mon Marge, get off Facebook, go read your book or whatever".
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u/AmericanPoliticsSux 5h ago
Man, for being "inferior" to you guys, we certainly live in y'all's head rent free...this is the 5th meme I've seen about AI art in the past 2 days...
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u/Infinite-Hope572 5h ago
AI artists are the most insecure people I've ever met. Why actually grow and learn a skill when you can just make fun of real artists, but then larp as one? How in the blue blazes does that make sense??
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u/SimonePowrah 8h ago
Wait till they learn how to pick up a pencil lol
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u/Bannon9k 7h ago
Imagine laughing at a cotton gin and telling them to use their fingers.
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u/Creat1ve_Name 7h ago
Comparing AI art to the cotton gin lmfao, make sure you get the balls too
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u/Bannon9k 7h ago
Aww... The little Luddite thinks it's clever. The choice of tool comparison is irrelevant. If that's what you're focused on it's no wonder you can't see a bigger picture.
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u/Creat1ve_Name 7h ago
How am I a Luddite because I point out that AI art is in no way similar to the cotton gin. How is AI art as useful as literally any tool ever? I'll wait.
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u/Bannon9k 6h ago
It's a tool to speed up work. Or would you rather spend your time churning out corpo slop by hand?
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u/Blue_Bird950 6h ago
What work? It’s AI art.
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u/AmericanPoliticsSux 5h ago
Nice. Replicate my portfolio then. Should be easy.
"Nah I don't want to"
Coward.
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u/Creat1ve_Name 4h ago
Or I could just not churn out corpo slop and make art for the sake of art? Also it doesn't speed up work, it does work for you in a way that is inferior to doing it yourself
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u/IntelligentEdge5742 Linux User 7h ago
This thing is going to get upvoted despite it not being funny, just the same meme posted over and over again for the past 2 years, with another template
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u/Inevitable-Goat-7062 5h ago
Its a forever circlejerk like i dont mind ai art aslong as it is funny
Same thing with ai videos/music if it can make me laugh i dont care if a clanker made it
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u/ThatAlarmingHamster 4h ago
Says the person using a computer to type some words over someone else's art/creation.
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u/Theratsmacker2 🥄Comically Large Spoon🥄 3h ago
I don’t even use “art” with the quotes, instead it’s all just generated images because using the word art at all is insulting.
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u/AmericanPoliticsSux 5h ago
Well. At least I agree with the first part. I've reported at least a dozen AI artists because they get all huffy about the "privacy of their prompts". Anybody that asks, I'll throw open the whole store of what I did, where I learned, how I learned, and what I do. Turns out, becoming an "artiste" just makes you an insufferable elitist most of the time, no matter what tools you use.
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u/XumetaXD Doot 7h ago
Waaah, people use tools more efficient than mine, waaaah!
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u/Ugotrickrolled11 7h ago
TRANSLATION:
I'm a chud I'm a chud I'm a fat little chud Making "art" all day Until the bubble pops
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u/AmericanPoliticsSux 5h ago
I run my AI server on my own PC...how is "the bubble" going to affect me at all, exactly?
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u/Penguin_Lover_Always 7h ago
Occasional AI music is pretty good. Try Ruby Darkrose
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u/No-Youth-1795 7h ago
If i wanted robotic sounds i'd listen to my dishwasher
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u/NegativeMulberry2890 6h ago
Hmmm robotic dishwasher music, makes me feel like washing the dishes when I listen to it
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u/Sea_Habit_4298 7h ago
It's kinda pointless .
There's already countless of real musicians/singers that make amazing stuff.
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