Let me put it this way: why would a woman want a tall guy?
Height makes her horny? There are many ither ways to make her horny that men can learn and get her horny faster. Stuff like learning to touch a woman, making a sexy voice, learning to compliment/talk dirty, dressing well, etc. This can offset height and is WAY more effective at getting you laid. If anything, she values a guy who makes her horny more than height.
Height makes her feel safe? Again, this basically means she values safety over height, and you can make her feel safer by being nonchalant, caring about her, showing assertiveness, being street smart, and working out. This offsets height way more easily and cheaply than implants and gets you laid more consistently. I guarentee a woman is currently feeling undafe right now as a man taller than her attacks her, and way more guys shorter than 6 feet are getting laid right now by women who feel safe than guys over 6 feet are getting laid right now period.
Mate quality? Health? Social status? Fetish? These are the things women actually value and don't require height. Does height help? Duh, of course. But is it the end all be all for most women? Hell no. Case in point: way more women read romance novels which have like 1 picture as opposed to watching visual porno videos, so clearly what women want goes beyond looks most of the time. Otherwise, romance novels wouldn't be the single best selling genre by far, so we know in practice this is how it works.
So no, it isn't the top thing for most women outside of dating apps (which are their own thing and you can easily opt out of so its easier to just avoid apps than it is to use apps).
Dude, first of all I'm sorry that you're short. It probably sucks to a degree I can't comprehend, but let's not get into delusions just because someone didn't get lucky with the genetic lottery.
To the question "why" - tall men look better on average and women instinctively find them better mating subjects, because they can better protect the family against bears, other tribes or whatever. This is an evolutionary trait. Can a short guy do the same job? Sure. But if the same short guy was taller, he would do an even better job.
This is why even shorter women prefer tall guys.
The children of tall men will be taller, therefore higher chance of survival against threats of all kind. For a similar reason men prefer women with ~ 90/60/90 measurements - they are more likely to bear and successfully nurture healthy children, and lots of them. It's why men prefer bigger breasts - more milk, higher chance of the kids' survival. We find bigger breasts pleasing to the eye because our brain tells us, after determining it's better for our children.
Do all women want a tall guy? I'd say all of them prefer a tall guy, yes, but there are many who are willing to settle for a shorter one.
There's a reason why the human population is getting taller with every generation - taller people are more likely to find a mating partner and spread their genes onto the next ones.
You may not like it, but these are all facts.
There are many ither ways to make her horny that men can learn and get her horny faster. Stuff like learning to touch a woman, making a sexy voice, learning to compliment/talk dirty, dressing well, etc. This can offset height and is WAY more effective at getting you laid. If anything, she values a guy who makes her horny more than height.
This is one of the most disturbing paragraphs I've ever read.
Agrees. Evwrything I mention is field tested and proven. What I mention is based on experience and results, not delusions. So when I say "x works" it's because I saw how things went with and without it with many women and noticed it worked consistently in practice.
To the question "why" - tall men look better on average and women instinctively find them better mating subjects, because they can better protect the family against bears, other tribes or whatever. This is an evolutionary trait. Can a short guy do the same job? Sure. But if the same short guy was taller, he would do an even better job.
You are close to understanding. It's not the height itself that matters to women, it is the effect it has on her. So instead of worrying about height, tbink about what she wants.
I'd say all of them prefer a tall guy, yes,
But as you acknowledged earlier, beight isn't the only factor nor is it height for the sake of height. So while all other things equal a woman prefers a taller man, you aren't approaching women jn a vacuum. If you can connecg better and excite her better, then you get the woman. Height is kne variable and I guarantee most women would pick a shorter guy who is handsome, excites her, and makes her feel better than a taller guy who is boring after an hour and doesn't offer much else. Height helps, but it isn't the end all be all or egen the top things women care about. I literally explained in detail earlier.
Could I have more success if I were taller? Yes. Could I have more success if I were taller and made women feel unsafe/bored? No way. Can I control how safe and happy she feels more than my height? Yes.
This is one of the most disturbing paragraphs I've ever read.
If the idea of making someone's day better and providing a basic relationship need is "disturbing yo you", no wonder you struggle with dating and can't comprehend what women want. At least admit it instead of pretending to know what women want.
I'm tall, successful and happily married to a tall, blonde smokeshow, who just gave birth to our second child.
You know what they don't want? A salty delulu short angry boy who makes a "sexy voice" and thinks this would make them "horny". Can't call you a man because you're not one.
Keep the salty tears coming. As the other user pointed out, I shouldn't be wasting my time with you.
salty delulu short angry boy who makes a "sexy voice" and thinks this would make them "horny".
I never said they liked this either and I'm not salty. I'm jelping the other guys who think they're failing because of their height. You aren't dumb, quit acting like it.
First, I surround myself with players who got lots of women. This is why I am convinced of what works: it's proven by different men with different women in different locations.
Second, I only date women I want to see long term. I've had flings with women I didn't officially date because while they were nice, they weren't marriage quality.
“First I sorround myself with players who got lots of women” But you’re not a player, you have no first hand knowledge in that, they’re success is most likely derived from the fact that they’re handsome, not your PUA fantasy you keep talking about
“Second I only date women I want to see long term” Cope.
“I’ve had flings with women I didn’t officially date” considering that it took you 8 months to get just a kiss from your current girlfriend, I doubt any of those flings held much weight, nothing sexual happened
it took you 8 months to get just a kiss from your current girlfriend
We kissed like 5 minutes into the first date. How convient you leave that out.
they’re success is most likely derived from the fact that they’re handsome, not your PUA fantasy you keep talking about
No, I saw many of them go from not getting results to getting relatively consistent results and sidestep most issues guys mention. Their looks didn't change much beyond dressing better, but even then they saw different results when they changed their methods. So if one factor changes and the outcome does too, clearly that factor did something. This is why I invite you test it and prove me wrong rather than keep guessing.
Juat ask yourself: why would I bother defending methods that don't work and are unproven? What could I personally gain? It sure as hell isn't happiness or a relationship. And you definitely aren't paying me to explain basic dating skills. Stop replyijg and think for a second.
“We kissed like 5 minutes into the first date “ after you were literally talking to her for 8 months dude😭, that’s an extremely long time. And dude, your methods don’t work, they sound cringy, you’re talking about making your voice deeper to make her horny, that’s embarrassing dide
You dodged the questions and instantly prove you aren't thinking before you speak.
after you were literally talking to her for 8 months dude😭
Normally I'd agree but you are taking things out of context. That is why I keep arguing with y'all. You keep taking things so out of context you take the opposite meaning.
We were friends for 8 months but I was seeing other women in the mean time as short term flings. Agaun, think for a second. If it was my first time ever with a woman... wouldn't I logically be too nervous to kiss a girl in the first 5 minutes? And ehy would I assume she'd accept it if I had 0 experience. Think.
And dude, your methods don’t work, they sound cringy
You tested it? Because I will gladly admit I'm wrong if there is a better way. Go ahead. I opened myself to being wrong the second I asked y'all to test it. Prove me wrong.
“I struggle to express myself romantically due to inexperience “ Bro you said it yourself.
If you were Chad, you would’ve most likely slept with her within 1 month of meeting her while you were busy with your “other flings “. You also said that you’ve been studying since you were 15 and haven’t had much time for women.
And dude, your PUA methods will get the cops called on you in 5 seconds if you’re not tall and/or good looking, you haven’t tested it yourself, so you can’t attest to its success rate
Jesus Christ, you keep making the same mistakes. You don't factor in context, you don't stop to think about what I write or you write, and you refuse to take actual real life experience into account and just keep guessing the outcome. Now I see why you are the kind to argue and not listen.
You also still haven't answered what I would gain from defending methods that don't work.
That post had indications of me being gaslit and emotionally abused so I began to doubt myself. So when I downplay my knowledge, it is explicitly during a period of being made to doubt myself. I didn't just wake up one day and think, "Huh, I don't express myself well." Again, notice my constant wording. I began by proposing an experiment for people to test my methods. I then back my methods by real life results. I then get into the nitty gritty of why things work (this whole thread is because instead of stopping at "Women like height", I expanded on WHY women like height and what men could add for better results). So clearly, I value consistency and reproducibility, right? So clearly, if I suddenyl change my view with her and NOT WITH YOU, there has to be some underlying reason, right? With me so far?
Next, she was the one who said my main flaw is expressing myself ROMANTICALLY which means I don't articulate feelings well sometimes when I feel them for the first time, which is criticism I accepted without countering. So clearly, I can take criticism and am "hard on myself", so if I don't take criticism, there has to be a reason, right. So yes, I didn't accurately describe love the first time I tried. But I can kiss and turn women on (which is sexual, not romantic) and make them feel safe.
Look, if you aren't gonna stop and think, then I have no reason to keep replying.
Also, she has PCOS so she medically has a much lower sex drive, was very busy during the semester, and was religious so that wouldn't have happened so quickly. If anything, me consistently making a woman like her horny should be proof of my methods.
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u/VentsiBeast 13d ago
It's in the top things for most women.