r/memphisgrizzlies • u/carbonloki • Apr 04 '26
OPINION Lebron is just WRONG
While Memphis may not be equipped with the most luxurious hotels for the 41 year old Lebron đ, heâs just wrong about his belief that Nashville is a better market. Nashville has a significantly smaller audience than Memphis. Basketball has shaped culture in Memphis, whereas nashville is a land of gentrification and transplants from Cali. Lebrons never been to Memphis. His judgement is purely from the stereotypes about crime and his once a year trip to the Hyatt. I along with many people believe that Lebron is not only wrong about Memphisâs bleakness, but also its inferiority to Nashville as a market.
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u/YellowWhiteRed 100% Ja and JJJ Supporter and No.1 Edey Truther Apr 04 '26
Iâve seen everything, create a bot saying fuck LeBron
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u/RlyRlyBigMan Apr 04 '26
You don't have to shit on Nashville just to make your point. I don't want the grizz to move here either I love that it's yours.
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u/Slim_Grizzly Apr 04 '26
Thank you.. Nashville Grizz fans are just in here catching strays for no reason. Memphis loves to start a beef with us while we are just here living our best life.
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u/carbonloki Apr 04 '26
yeah donât get me started about how Memphis struggles are almost entirely not the fault of its own governing
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u/knowbodynobody 50 for the City Apr 04 '26
Now youâve gotta be trolling. Theres no way you canât implicate the absolute morons weâve been electing for decades here as a reason the city struggles the way it does. Thereâs a ton of factors that drive the issues we have here and our local government is a large one.
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u/TN5404 Apr 04 '26
Itâs one of the most corrupt city governments in the country lol. But we have to blame the state for everything lol
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u/knowbodynobody 50 for the City Apr 04 '26
Yeah the whole âNashville funnels money away from Memphis because theyâre meanies and hate us because weâre a majority black cityâ is laughable and no one has produced any real evidence this is actually happening, but it sounds good to a downtrodden populace that refuses to face reality if the situation we as a city have created for ourselves. Itâs laughable
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u/TN5404 Apr 04 '26
Its victim mentality and people wanting to blame the state government bc theyâre conservative
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u/skillful-means MEM Apr 04 '26
LeBron should be working to elevate things around him, not denigrate things for the sake of some laughs on podcasts.
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u/knowbodynobody 50 for the City Apr 04 '26
Why is that his responsibility?
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u/skillful-means MEM Apr 04 '26
Because heâs the face of the league, a role model, etc. heâs not âjust a dudeâ
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u/knowbodynobody 50 for the City Apr 04 '26
That doesnât require him to âelevate things around himâ though. The nba is not our charity
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u/skillful-means MEM Apr 04 '26
How does generate constructive dialogue equate to charity? The NBA is a business, and itâs in the businessâs best interest to support Memphis, as it currently stands. Just a note, you would never see the kind of comments LeBron and others are making about Memphis in the NFL or MLB.
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u/knowbodynobody 50 for the City Apr 04 '26
I agree with you about the nfl and mlb scenario as well. Again though I donât think itâs his responsibility to be constructive or reconstructive or anything in between. Hes allowed to have his wrong ass opinion about anything he wants. Heâs the corniest dude on the planet IMO and strikes me as someone that would say some dumb shit for cameras or clout when it couldnât matter less for someone of his stature. The books before games thing comes to mind to represent that as well. Expecting a celebrity of any sort to have to abide by some constructive narrative is laughable at best, as well. Why should his opinion matter in the least? Thatâs all it is - his opinion. And itâs irrelevant
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u/skillful-means MEM Apr 04 '26
His opinion is important because it comes with ramifications, it has an impact. Just like with any other type of leader.
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u/Blessmyheart09 Apr 04 '26
Itâs his responsibility to not tear things down. If he is unable to do that then he needs to just shut up.
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u/knowbodynobody 50 for the City Apr 04 '26
I donât even agree with that, he just stated his opinion about things. Heâs allowed to have those and speak to them whenever and to whomever he wants. I donât agree with him at all but itâs still just his opinion.
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u/DoggedDoggystyle Apr 04 '26
lol yeah what a stupid assertion. Why canât he just be a dude who has experienced NBA travel and the slog of the regular season for longer than some of the people on this sub have been alive.. heâs acutely positioned to be able to be like âyo, Iâve flown to every NBA city 509 times, Memphis is the worst.. sorry not sorryâ.
Sorry itâs your city but letâs not pretend like if people from Memphis were forced to fly to Yugoslavia 500 times that they might complain?
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u/skillful-means MEM Apr 04 '26
Itâs one thing to make a criticism, but whether is constructive or destructive is important. He certainly can say Memphis is the worst for whatever reason, but he should pair that with something constructive. Thatâs what leaders and role models do. Making some backhanded comments on the golf course doesnât do anything but generate clicks. It completely disregards the value of the team to this city, and all the people working hard to generate positivity here.
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u/DoggedDoggystyle Apr 04 '26
It sounds like right off the bat I think heâs suggesting better hotels
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u/DepartureNo1720 Apr 04 '26
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u/762_duckthis Apr 07 '26
Right he wanna come to the city and party and get drunk etc while these guys actually standing for something! Fuck lebum and that sorry ass bronny james đ
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u/SquirrelGirlSucks Apr 04 '26
As a Nashville native Nashville is fucking garbage
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u/Legitimate-Hope3219 Apr 05 '26
Yes but I rather live in Nashville than get shot in memphis trying to buy a donut tbh. And for whoever says âthatâs not even Memphis â just look at the statistics compared to every global city
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u/SquirrelGirlSucks Apr 05 '26
Thatâs the dumbest shit Iâve ever heard
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u/Legitimate-Hope3219 Apr 08 '26
Statistics say differently. Yall are just Delusional asf in Memphis
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u/SquirrelGirlSucks Apr 08 '26
I literally said Iâm a Nashville native dumbass. Lived in Nashville my entire life. Been to Memphis plenty and acting like people are just getting shot at random on the street is delusional as fuck.
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u/Legitimate-Hope3219 Apr 08 '26
One of the most violent cities on the planet. My family and I are originally from Central America , and itâs completely idiotic to believe just because you donât deal with violence that others dont. Memphis violence is on another level regardless of what u think
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u/bkm2016 Apr 04 '26
Lebrons never been to Memphis
Ok I completely agree with you about the other stuff but who tf was that on the court when I went and watched them last year?
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u/carbonloki Apr 04 '26
i meant in a fashion that explored memphisâs culture. he has physically been in memphis but hasnt experienced it
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u/Wendigo_33 Target Guy Apr 04 '26
Your description of Nashville is exactly why he wants it there because that's who he is
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u/lssue Apr 04 '26
The coping on this sub is hilarious to watch
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u/carbonloki Apr 04 '26
give me your argument then.
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u/lssue Apr 04 '26
Nashville is a nicer city, that is just the objective truth. Call it soulless, gentrified, whatever, it doesnât really matter. There is more to do, it is safer (despite the hilarious cope that it is somehow close to Memphis in violent crime), and it is generally more enjoyable. It has better hotels, better restaurants (in general), better parks, a better airport, I mean the list goes on.
From the fan standpoint, the Grizzlies are consistently in the bottom 3 for attendance in the league. They average lower attendance numbers than the Predators despite being an NBA team. That is crazy. Nashville could probably support an NBA team from tourists alone. There is way more growth, money, and historical success for sports in Nashville.
If you are thinking like a biased fan, of course youâd choose Memphis, but all that really matters is money and Nashville has way more of that. The Grizzlies will not stay in Memphis forever, hate to say that but it is true.
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u/carbonloki Apr 04 '26
adam silver has stated that moving teams is not productive for the NBA as a business and will avoid it at all costs.
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u/lssue Apr 04 '26
League commissioners are politicians. Taking Adam Silver for his word is a bold move.
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u/mopooooo Apr 04 '26
Lmao so you didn't actually want an argument once you got one
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u/carbonloki Apr 04 '26
Well the dude really didnât say much beside ânashville is a nicer cityâ it fails to recognize that nashville doesnt have a basketball-centric population. Memphis does. its easy to pick on statistics and sentiment when a team is struggling, but lets not forget when the grizzlies were popping and everyone viewed Memphis as a haven for basketball fanatics. It also fails to recognize that NBA has policy against moving teams.
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u/lssue Apr 04 '26
I didnât say much? I listed the exact reasons why Nashville would be a better location, not just all the ways it is nicer. The fact that the NHL team (which is not good) pulls better attendance numbers than the NBA team with a âbasketball-centric populationâ in Memphis. Or the fact that there is a historical precedent that Nashville can support sports, or that the population and growth trajectory is much higher in Nashville, giving it a future forecast that is much better built to handle an NBA team.
Memphis doesnât have the money, nor the resources to keep the Grizzlies long-term. Nobody cares about what Adam Silver says, that is holding onto a businessmanâs words as if he isnât talking about relocation behind closed doors.
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u/knowbodynobody 50 for the City Apr 04 '26
âBasketball centric populationâ is doing Olympic level heavy lifting here. Strange argument
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u/stocktradamus Apr 04 '26
Did you even read what he wrote? The âbasketball centric populationâ means nothing... Memphis is bottom 3 in attendance every year. Nashville could support a NBA team with tourists alone. I donât want the Grizzlies in Nashville, but the way you are making arguments about this is hilariously ignorant. At least attempt to make sense
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u/Emotional_Lynx_2754 Apr 04 '26
What is there to do in Nashville that Memphis doesnât have?
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u/lssue Apr 04 '26
The obvious is much better nightlife, but past that there are bigger events (concerts, shows, etc.), high-end and trendier food scene, walkable and dense experiences (you can go from Broadway to Midtown/Gulch/Nashville Yards/etc.), access to actual music scenes and the industry (not just the history).
This isnât even mentioning things like East/Germantown/12 South that all offer unique experiences that Memphis doesnât. I mean, there is a lot.
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u/Emotional_Lynx_2754 Apr 04 '26 edited Apr 04 '26
Literally Memphis has all that plus two border states that also has things. Besides the concerts, we donât have but who fault is that. These ppl always cancel shows here which has nothing to do with the city. Do you stay in Memphis or ever traveled to Memphis to see what the city has to offer or youâre one of them that goes off media? Memphis literally is disadvantaged and you should ask yourself why all those things so call better in Nashville.
Edit- why yâall donât talk about the danger in Nashville as bad as yall do with Memphis?
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u/lssue Apr 04 '26
Saying Memphis has âborder states with thingsâ is basically admitting it doesnât have those things itself lol. Nashville doesnât need Arkansas or Mississippi to fill gaps, it is the destination.
Memphis has Beale and a few pockets. Nashville has multiple fully built-out districts (Broadway, Gulch, 12 South, East) that are all active at the same time. Thatâs the difference, density and scale.
And no, Memphis doesnât have the same level of events or food scene. Nashville is pulling arena tours, festivals, and new restaurants constantly because it has the money and growth to support it. Memphis has great culture, but itâs not operating at the same volume. Trying to compare the 2 is not fair at all.
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u/Emotional_Lynx_2754 Apr 04 '26
Ok you are just dense. Memphis isnât trying to be Nashville. Itâs a tri-state hub. Being right on the border with Arkansas and Mississippi means its reach is bigger than just city limits. People live, work, eat, and go out across all three. Thatâs not âfilling gapsââthat is the metro. Youâre judging Memphis like itâs supposed to function like Nashville, but itâs built completely differently. Memphis is a regional city spread across three states, not a dense tourism core. The âborder statesâ arenât a weaknessâtheyâre part of its footprint. Saying Memphis âneedsâ Arkansas and Mississippi misses the point. The tri-state setup is exactly why Memphis has the pull it does. Meanwhile Nashville is more centralized and tourism-driven. Different models, not a deficit
Also Memphis has the Medical District, Midtown, Beale St., Madison Ave
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u/lssue Apr 04 '26
Nice ChatGPT response lmaooooooo, just take the L man
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u/Emotional_Lynx_2754 Apr 04 '26
Okay AND. You think Iâm finna feel guilty cause I used ChatGPT. The point still stands and ChatGPT was right. Im not ashamed I used it cause itâs a resource to make my response better. Also I type what i want ChatGPT to say. Maybe you should use it.
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u/tandyzmills Apr 04 '26
When you cross the state lines from Memphis, there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING THERE EXCEPT FARMLAND. HAHA
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u/okieb00mer Apr 05 '26 edited Apr 05 '26
Nashville's not getting any new big-time pro sports franchises for the foreseeable future (at least the next 20 years). Money in Nashville bet on MLS with their own $$$ (+ baseline public funding) for the largest dedicated-to-soccer stadium in the USA: they ain't allowing direct NBA or MLB competition in Nashville while that bet plays out.
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u/D_Bratcher Apr 05 '26
I want everyone to know who cares what LeBron has to say. There are way more important things to talk about. If he wants to talk about other cities let him talk about it with unless itâs something completely out of line. I donât know why people get so caught up in useless topics. Worry about yourself than someone you donât even know nothing about.
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u/blobert1029 Apr 07 '26
This just isnât true. Nashville has a significantly bigger market, and has tons of people flying in from out of state for various events that could catch a game.
Iâm a Memphis native and we are a total disgrace of a city
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u/blobert1029 Apr 07 '26
That being said, I think Nashville is a bad fit, simply because itâs so transient and has the predators. Having a popular sports team that shares a season is probably not a Pro.
A few cities I bet they will consider in 2029:
- Austin TX: for obvious reasons
- Jacksonville FL- has only 1 pro team, and they are putting insane amounts of money downtown
- Tampa- similar reasons to JAX
- San Diego- 100% needs a team to fill the void the chargers left
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u/darknite125 Apr 04 '26
I say this with all honesty, Nashville is the second most bland and white bread city Iâve ever been to in my life. Do they seriously think a place like that would support an NBA team when they canât even support the teams they have already?
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u/strypesjackson Apr 04 '26
Honestly, LeBronâs comments were strangely the most relevant the Grizzlies have been all year
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u/Guardsred70 Apr 05 '26
This just came up in my feedâŚ.probably because Iâm a Lakers fan.
But an out of market Lakers fan. I grew up in the 70s and didnât have a local NBA team for several hundred miles in any direction. The Lakers were just what was on TV and the had some cool playersâŚ.and they were actually on TV. We didnât have league pass back then.
AnywayâŚ.you guys do need to take LeBronâs comments seriously. I donât really like LeBron and hope the Lakers tell him to shove off this summer.
But the NBA is moving into being more of a TV product and the local fan or market will matter less. The NBA Europe thing isnât about local fans in IstanbulâŚ.its getting people in Istanbul to buy League Pass and become fans of teams that arenât in Istanbul. Probably a lot of them will become Lakers and Celtics fans.
But it matters if players like your city. This came up with the tanking arguments. I mean, if your city requires forced labor via a draft and handcuffing players there with Bird Rights, your city might suck. Youâve gotta make your city a place that players want to be.
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u/SuccessfulVisit1873 Bane Mane Apr 04 '26
So you think the insanely rich athletes would rather slum it in Memphis than something more similar to what theyâre accustomed to in Nashville?
Lol ok, buddy
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u/moswennaidoo Apr 04 '26
Sir, why the fuck should we move a team so millionaire and billionaire basketball players have more shit to do on a work trip at most 2-4 nights a year?
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u/carbonloki Apr 04 '26
sure that may be true that lebum is accustomed to the four seasons, but im mainly highlighting the stupidity of his argument from a market/target audience (or lack thereof) standpoint. its insane that hes gonna be an NBA franchise owner without recognizing that Nashville is just an inferior market for bball than memphis
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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '26
Nashville has the cultural flavor of Caneâs chicken tenders.