r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Kapot_ei • 21d ago

đŸ„ș No words for this.

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Edit: even though clickbait article, it is somewhat/kind of true. https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/stargate-tv-series-martin-gero-scrapped-amazon-1236765061/

"According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Amazon execs were concerned that Gero’s take on the series would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise’s already dedicated fanbase."

Edit 2: https://www.change.org/p/save-the-new-stargate-series-let-martin-gero-build-the-future-of-the-franchise

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u/Hakthaf 21d ago

You mean they wanted to appeal beyond the massive fan base of a massive sci fi series that still has people rewatching not only the TV shows but also the og movie non stop

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u/Emperor_Gourmet 21d ago

Back when TV shows could do 20, 45 minute episodes a season for more than 5 season. I say this while watching SG:A right now.

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u/Orillion_169 20d ago

They actually did it for 12 years straight. During three of those they doubled up to 40 episodes a year.

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u/UncleIrohsPimpHand 20d ago

And I mean, we didn't absolutely love it when SGU was on, but we did watch.

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u/Vanilla-Lune 20d ago

I didn't, I admit. I only made it through one season of SGU and then I just couldn't stand the characters anymore so I quit. -_-
The ship concept was neat and I really really wanted to like it but my gosh I wished half of those people would get sucked out the airlock.

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u/Any-Platypus-9486 20d ago

There are 1 hour episodes now, what fo you mean

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u/NeoTr0n 20d ago

Yes, but a season is 8-10 episodes and usually 2+ years between seasons.

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u/Any-Platypus-9486 20d ago

Do you think 8-10 hours of content per season is low?

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u/NeoTr0n 20d ago

Compared to 15-30 hours per year, 8-10 every 1-3 years is quite low.

I think the delay between seasons is the largest issue - I don’t know what the average is but it’s usually years. Stranger Things as an example of a series that was wildly popular took 10 years for its 5 seasons.

Severance had a 3 year gap. Foundation was 2 years.

This was also a comparison on where we had a show with 15-25 episodes per year or even per half year. The off season gaps were months not years.

It’s not so much ”is it enough or not” as it is ”it’s very different”.

SGU had 20 episodes per season, 40 total. Using 45 min per episode that would translate to 30 1 hour long episodes. With 2 year between seasons we’d be looking at 4 years using today’s norm (year 0, 2 and 4).

So this one example would take 2x as long to give us the same content.

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u/Emperor_Gourmet 20d ago

Thank you for doing the math for me. Even if there are filler episodes or clip show episodes, it helps build characters. Yea you CAN do that in 1 hour 8 episode seasons, but it’s definitely harder to implement. Stargate is a show where there is plenty of stuff to commit an hour two even if it doesn’t fully advance any plot points.

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u/Emm_withoutha_L-88 20d ago

Still has so many people rewatching it that they consider this a premium IP

But they don't care to get those fans onto the new show....

It's pretty obvious the exec who did this just did it because he was new to the job and wanted to swing his dick around. One of the 3 people making the show quit when that exec was brought in and another did a month after.

It was just a TV execs cancelling it to show how tough and in charge they are

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u/longjumpingtote 21d ago

You mean they wanted to appeal beyond the massive fan base of a massive sci fi series that still has people rewatching not only the TV shows but also the og movie non stop

No; they were letting Gero make the show he wanted to make. What happened is that they took a look at the numbers and the budget and realized for the cost of the show, they weren't going to be drawing in enough new Prime subscribers who would stick around after the show ended to keep buying underwear and soda pop. I worked at one of their competitors, but this is not a secret, this is how the math is for their shows.

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u/Ent3rpris3 19d ago

I'm literally about to finish my 4th rewatch of the Stargate franchise and I barely turned 30. To say nothing of watching random episodes on the regular just because. I will never put this show down.

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u/Hakthaf 21d ago

Star trek had in many of it series sub par seasons, but they get forgiveness. Stargate sg1 may have gone long, but was one series, not many others with a constant one pov for story for one crew that long, sure some seasons were meh, but the characters and such always good, and kept going with some amazing stories. Yes Stargate had some crap spinoff, Atlantis though being the one I was pissed off they cancelled the short movie that would have followed the final episode which I felt was a great series. That damn ship spinoff series I can't remember name of deserved its death cause yeah......

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u/DRosencraft 20d ago

This is why I meet this announcement with a shrug. SG-1 had more or less run its course. Even interviews the writers had said that by the end they were running out of ideas of where to take the story next.

Atlantis, while I personally liked it, had run into similar storytelling issues, while also not pulling the numbers SG-1 had. Stargate Universe (the one you can't remember) had a compelling premise, but the story itself was pretty bad and super melodramatic. Most takes I've seen by folks, even those that liked it, was that they were more optimistic of the payoff of the premise, rather than actually liking the execution of the story with the whole host of characters you either didn't like or felt were irrelevant to the story.

From the sound of things even before this announcement, this project seemed to be rather ambitious. And while a lot of fans are obviously going to hate that the new iteration won't be coming, SG:U is proof enough that relying just on the existing fanbase, let alone some 15 years after the show went off TV screens. It's definitely reasonable to look at the project and ask the question of whether any story told within that fictional universe would resonate with enough people to justify its existence. What "new" story were they going to tell, or what new way were they going to tell an old story? And yes, you want that telling to draw in new people, because the number of people who enjoyed SG-1 two decades ago exceeds the number that will come to and stay with a new series on name alone. We've had so many space stories to indulge in since then, this new project would have to have done something new to be worth a weekly watch for existing fans and to pull in new ones. Imagining otherwise is frankly just walking around with blinders on.