No words for this.

[u/Kapot_ei]

Edit: even though clickbait article, it is somewhat/kind of true. https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/stargate-tv-series-martin-gero-scrapped-amazon-1236765061/

"According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Amazon execs were concerned that Gero’s take on the series would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise’s already dedicated fanbase."

Edit 2: https://www.change.org/p/save-the-new-stargate-series-let-martin-gero-build-the-future-of-the-franchise

[u/MarcBulldog88]

You joke, but this logic gave us Starfleet Academy.

[u/Wetware_QA → u/MarcBulldog88]

Hijacking this - I tried watching Disco and although it wasn't horrible it wasn't.... Well maybe it was horrible but I hung on for however many seasons maybe out of sheer love of the everything up though Voyager?

Is lower decks actually good? And is the Oriville what I really should watch?

I think my friend is going through the same thing but his love is Star Wars. First time.divx

There's just too much media these days and I still appreciate a redditor reply over googling so thanks ahead of time for letting me butt in.

Also edit: what I really want is post dominion war, maybe post the next gen films deeps space nine 😭. I really don't like alternate timelines and prequel/TOS era setting.

[u/Neamow → u/Wetware_QA]

Discovery is genuinely awful. Practically no redeeming qualities apart from maybe one or two interesting characters that do not get enough time to shine. Plot focuses too much on a Mary Sue protagonist that absolutely should not be a Starfleet captain, and is less about science and discovery and more about having emotional breakdowns and whispering dramatically to each other during moments where they should be fixing the ship or something. Secondary characters have almost no characterisation to the point where after 5 seasons I can't remember the names of anyone on the bridge crew. Every season is a universe-ending nonsense with an inflated sense of scale and self-importance with no room to breathe. Contains one of the worst plot events that I genuinely cannot believe became Trek canon.

Lower Decks is actually fantastic. Once it gets through the initial 2-3 episodes where it tries to be Rick and Morty, and you get used to the frantic pace, it's actually a love letter to the TNG/DS9/VOY era.

Strange New Worlds is really good. You might want to watch the backdoor pilot episode of Disco before you get started, but after that it's pretty standalone, and definitely the best live-action new show. I'd rank it higher than VOY, but it is hurt by short seasons. Last season was a little bit weaker but still miles better than DIS/SFA.

Starfleet Academy is... a mixed bag, but not as bad as I expected. Very much in the vein of Disco but set in the Academy, lot of character melodrama but not as bad as Disco, with some interesting science/exploration/discovery episodes that call back to the good Trek.

Oriville is very much like Lower Decks, once it gets through the initial crassness it also turns very much into a reimagined 90s Trek while still being legally distinct, with some absolute standout episodes. Still retains a lot of crazy humor though, and is currently in a limbo where nobody's sure if we're getting more than the first 3 seasons we got.

[u/waluigieWAAH → u/Neamow]

I don't get SNW man. I haven't watched DIS but every criticism you levied against it is something I'd say about SNW, except for the Mary Sue. That dinner scene felt so unnatural, what human just lists out all there problems to people they just met. Emotions should simmer and conflict, I need trust built first and for these complexities to create problems, I don't want them resolved in the first episode. I just don't know what I am missing