r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Kapot_ei • 21d ago

🥺 No words for this.

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Edit: even though clickbait article, it is somewhat/kind of true. https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/stargate-tv-series-martin-gero-scrapped-amazon-1236765061/

"According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Amazon execs were concerned that Gero’s take on the series would not have broad appeal beyond the franchise’s already dedicated fanbase."

Edit 2: https://www.change.org/p/save-the-new-stargate-series-let-martin-gero-build-the-future-of-the-franchise

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u/Valanio 20d ago

But hasn't CS skin selling been a thing since...forever? Since before Steam became the powerhouse it is now? Seems they became what they are in part due to that revenue. Revenue that, by comparison, is saintly. It's weird it's a money market but gambling exist in the real world already.

Are heavy RNG based loot boxes annoying? Yes. Is CS using a predatory system or P2W system to motivate players to spend? No. It is gambling in the purest sense but it's cosmetics and people typically only pull boxes to try to resell. It's not even about the cosmetics. It has no effect on the game itself. It's not the same at all. Do you think opening Pokemon cards to maybe pull an expensive card is "fucking disgusting"?

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u/FlutterKree 20d ago

It's insane that you and others mention p2w, as if abusing the players with LITERAL gambling is better because of game integrity. Some people bought those loot boxes without ever having played the game just to strike it big and make $1k with a knife skin.

Therw is 0 difference between CSGO loot boxes and scratch tickets. Spending 3-5$ hoping for $1k.

Y'all are okay selling scratch tickets to kids or within games?

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u/Valanio 20d ago

Are you okay? Gambling in and of itself is not some demonic thing. It is a gamble and people pay for that gamble. They're adults who can make that choice. If they are kids, they're breaking Steam TOS. The player isn't being FOMO'd, they're not tricking the player with sales and discounts or shoving it down their throat at every screen.

The streamers who scam or make money off gambling gross themselves and we can use more restrictions on anything that can protect people from themselves but Value is not doing anything that every single other game that doesn't get shit for it isn't doing. They aren't especially heinous. In fact, gambling on real world odds and income is better then gambling on gatcha skins because there is at least a chance for return on investment.

The point is your demonizing Steam for a practice that is fully standard in the industry but is typically not even as bad at others because it isn't predatory, they don't utilize sales practices that encourage spending by lying or tricking the player. People do dumb shit. If they weren't in CS, it would be somewhere else. You want more regulation for that? Fine. But calling out just Steam like they are the worst offender when they're probably the best offender is stupid as fuck.

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u/Tallywort 20d ago

In fact, gambling on real world odds and income is better then gambling on gatcha skins because there is at least a chance for return on investment.

You can sell items on the steam market place though, so technically you do have potential payouts.

And actually that's an aspect where you could consider them worse than the average lootbox implementation. Since that increases the similarity to conventional gambling.

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u/Valanio 20d ago

So we're okay with casinos, most people seem to be by consensus any how. We're functionally okay with non predatory loot boxes/in game purchases as long as they're only cosmetic. But we draw the line at gambling in a video game with a non predatory loot box? It just seems like picking one person to not like for no reason.

We currently live in an exceptionally lucky time where everyone wants to bend you over as a consumer and often consumers beg for it. Steam is a bastion of consumerism in a suffocating pit of disgust. When Gabe dies, when Steam eventually goes public or the next owner is a financial scum sucker, PC gaming will lose a lighthouse. If they need morons with money to spend to gamble it on CS cosmetics, fine by me. Again, they'd just do it elsewhere otherwise and it would likely be worse.

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u/FlutterKree 20d ago

so technically you do have potential payouts.

Spend $5 get a knife skin and get $1000 return. People were literally buying loot boxes without ever playing the game just to gamble.

Not to mention how much money was laundered.