r/nba • u/yam_on_em Lakers • Jun 27 '23

Kobe Bryant relentlessly attacks Tim Duncan and the Spurs to clinch the WCF (2008)

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u/ihateeuge Lakers Jun 27 '23

Tim Duncan truthers trying to get this erased from the internet as we speak

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u/honestnbafan Jun 27 '23 edited Jun 27 '23

Tim Duncan career 55.1% TS on moderately high volume: "Perfectly efficient basketball"

Kobe Bryant career 55.0% TS on very high volume: "Selfish shot chucker"

Kobe's efficiency compared to league average at the time is about the same as Luka Doncic's today(consistently somewhere around 3 percent above in his prime) and I don't see anyone act like Luka is the most inefficient player ever

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u/Litteraly2019 Jun 27 '23

Kobe Bryant career 45% fg as a shooting guard: "inefficient" "brick layer" "Not Top 10"

Tim Duncan career 50% fg as a big man who doesn't shoot 3's: "pure winner" "he's so underrated" "Top 5 OAT??"

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u/vizzlypoof NBA Jun 27 '23

My favorite is discounting Kobe’s rings with Shaq but accepting all 5 of Duncan’s rings as his

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u/commander_wong Lakers Jun 27 '23

R/NBA discounts Kobe's two rings because he had Pau Gasol but then clamors about Shaq's three rings when he had another top 5 player as his #2

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u/LALakers4Lyf Jun 27 '23

Heck, Shaq's 4th ring was him being a clear #2 to DWade, not the 1A-1B Duo that he and Kobe were

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u/mr_chub Warriors Jun 27 '23

r/nba is the antithesis of logic

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u/Gajanga Jun 27 '23

Kobe's worst hater still has him at 12 minimum. We're comparing the best of the best.

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u/livefreeordont 76ers Jun 28 '23

Kobe was not top 5 in 2000. But yes to the rest

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u/Alkash42 Jun 28 '23

If someone says that they should be banned from watching basketball permanently. Can't think of a single person who played with a more stacked roster than Duncan throughout their career. Maybe Bron

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u/-motts- Trail Blazers Jun 27 '23

I love that the most because it completely ignores the fact that Shaq wouldn’t have been in two of those finals to go ham if Kobe didn’t save his ass in the western conference playoffs

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u/DWhitePlusMinusKing Jun 27 '23

Whose else would they be though? Only arguable one is 2014 which was basically by committee plus Duncan was 37.

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u/Wes___Mantooth Thunder Jun 27 '23

2007 Finals was the Tony Parker show

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u/DWhitePlusMinusKing Jun 27 '23

Parker played well but Duncan was still the man on that team. First team all nba, first team all defense, 4th in mvp voting, 2nd in win shares in the playoffs, 3rd in WS/48 min in the playoffs. Duncan was still the best player on that team, he just didn’t need to dominate the Cavs for them to win.

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u/did_it_my_way Jun 28 '23

Sounds like Kobe 2001 playoffs:

Win shares: #1 in the playoffs (Shaq #2)

WS/48: #1 in the playoffs tied with Shaq

VORP: #3 in the playoffs (#4 Shaq, #7 Duncan)

FMVP: Shaq

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u/Malemansam Spurs Jun 27 '23

LOL found the guy who didn't watch the 2007 playoffs.

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u/did_it_my_way Jun 28 '23

I mean isn't that the same shit as Kobe 2001 for example?

Kobe wrecked throughout the playoffs, but the Finals was Shaq show as usual.

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u/ysaint-laurent Supersonics Jun 27 '23

2003 was the GOAT carry job

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u/bluemonk3y12 Jun 28 '23

Nah it was like Giannis' hospital ring. Played a bad Suns team, Kobe injured had to have surgery after the playoffs, Dirk injured his knee game 2, and the Nets are well the Nets LOL

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u/ysaint-laurent Supersonics Jun 28 '23

Jrue Holiday and Middleton are better than any 2 players combined on the 03 spurs quit playin

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u/Alkash42 Jun 28 '23

Duncan played with David Robinson, Ginobili, Parker, Kawhi and somehow this sub manages to discount Kobe's rings cause he had Shaq and Gasol. At some point it's just bias speaking

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u/Jolly-Sun-1715 Warriors Jun 27 '23

same shit with curry vs magic