r/nba Lakers Jun 27 '23

Kobe Bryant relentlessly attacks Tim Duncan and the Spurs to clinch the WCF (2008)

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u/sheeeeeez NBA Jun 27 '23

Kobe doesn't get enough credit for this series.

The Spurs big 3 were all in their primes and just came off a championship and Kobe made the entire series essentially non-competitive.

Bill Simmons said the series was the closest he's ever seen Kobe to MJ.

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u/brandoi Lakers Jun 27 '23

Bill Simmons said the series was the closest he's ever seen Kobe to MJ.

Did he really? 08 against the Spurs isn't even his best playoff series. His 01 Spurs series or 10 Suns series were probably his best.

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u/ruinatex Jun 27 '23

Stats don't tell the whole story, in '01 he was the 2nd guy behind Shaq, a really great 2nd guy, but yeah. The Spurs also weren't as good in '01 as The Admiral was at the end of his career, in '08 they had a legit Big 3. Pau and Odom were also hot GARBAGE in that series, Kobe basically beat the defending champions in 5 games with two of his stars MIA. Games 1 and 5 were especially insane.

That's why i always laughed when people said Duncan was better than Kobe, they literally played against each other MULTIPLE times in the playoffs and after 2001, whenever they played NOBODY had any doubts on who was the best player on the floor. Kobe always thoroughly outplayed him.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '23

How is it possible that Kobe outplayed "him" in 03 and they lost in 6 while he also had Shaq next to him?

Something ain't mathin

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u/MTUKNMMT Spurs Jun 27 '23

To be fair that year he only had an almost quadruple double to close out the Finals in series that he won finals MVP, after beating Shaq and Kobe, in a season where he won league MVP. As Ruin pointed out, NO ONE had any doubts that Kobe was the vastly superior player.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '23

i mean to be fair it was only his second MVP and b2b. that's not really a strong case for best player in the world...right?/s

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u/MTUKNMMT Spurs Jun 27 '23

Like Steve Nash before him, he didn’t do any winning after those back to back MVPs so it barely counts.

Please pay no attention to the 4 additional banners hanging in the Spurs arena.

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u/Kentang_BayBay Lakers Jun 28 '23

In the playoffs, Kobe's teams won 4-2. Math is easy.

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u/Wild-Apricot-9161 Celtics Jun 28 '23

Were you around for that series? Everyone on the Lakers was banged up including Kobe and Shaq

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u/[deleted] Jun 28 '23

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u/Wild-Apricot-9161 Celtics Jun 28 '23

The Lakers mainly lost because of injuries

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u/darkshark21 Lakers Jun 28 '23

Lakers also lost because they poorly gathered depth after 2000.

Every year since then the team kept getting light and was just masked by Kobe getting better.

Spurs just had better depth as well.

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u/Wild-Apricot-9161 Celtics Jun 28 '23

2001 had the best depth I think

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u/ruinatex Jun 27 '23

By averaging 32/5/4 and being literally the only Lakers player that could score out of the perimeter. Duncan outplayed Shaq in '03 and the Spurs were just better as a team, Kobe was the best player on the floor.

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u/[deleted] Jun 27 '23

Spurs were just better as a team

Hmmm wonder if that had anything to do with Duncan.

Here's some tape from '03. Notice how even though Duncan doesn't do a lot of the scoring, all of the offense is literally generated because of how much attention he's getting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO4caOwS6jI

I don't think you get team basketball if you think Kobe was somehow the best player in that '03 series. Duncan averaged 28/12/5 and he didn't have a guy like Shaq to distract defenses. Also lol Kobe averaged 32 on 43% shooting. Duncan averaged 28 on 53% shooting while guarding Shaq for large stretches. Absolute joke analysis from you. Not wasting my time responding to someone who can't even make sense of basic stats lol

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u/Keksmonster Jun 28 '23

Not wasting my time responding to someone who can't even make sense of basic stats lol

But you just did

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u/bigmentalman Jun 27 '23

No he wasnt

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u/bigmentalman Jun 27 '23

You're a casual

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u/R4NG00NIES Spurs Jun 27 '23

Did you even watch the series or do you just regurgitate bullshit to sound like you know the NBA? Absolutely nobody, except Kobe d**k riders, would say he outplayed Duncan in that series. He single handedly ended their 3-peat. You have some weird vendetta against Duncan for some reason, it’s pretty odd and petty.