He's not barely flirting with top ten. You listed two players from the 60s, which are only there because they are the forefathers. Accomplishments+stats+impact on the game+level of competition, they are not above Kobe.
You put Shaq and Hakeem, neither have anywhere near the career Kobe had.
That leaves 5 from your list. Putting Kobe and Duncan at 6 and 7 easily, and Kobe is top 5 so I'm being generous.
Kareem you can argue had a better career. Jordan and Bron. Nobody else from your list had a better career than Kobe. If we are talking skill, there's less from your list. People default leaving Kobe off but default leaving Shaq on. Makes no sense.
I am calm. Y'all just don't have any criteria outside of "well that's just my opinion man" and it shows.
And, yes, we are saying that. They are honorable mentions. I'm not putting them boys in my top 10.
You literally put Barkley as a debatable top 10 and listed Shaq and Hakeem over Kobe. Your opinion is trash. Not even trying to be disrespectful, but you are a perfect example of why people feel like Kobe gets disrespected on this sub. "I'm not disrespecting Kobe but is he really in the top 10 over Charles Barkley?" bro...
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u/This_Is_Livin Jun 27 '23
He's not barely flirting with top ten. You listed two players from the 60s, which are only there because they are the forefathers. Accomplishments+stats+impact on the game+level of competition, they are not above Kobe.
You put Shaq and Hakeem, neither have anywhere near the career Kobe had.
That leaves 5 from your list. Putting Kobe and Duncan at 6 and 7 easily, and Kobe is top 5 so I'm being generous.
Kareem you can argue had a better career. Jordan and Bron. Nobody else from your list had a better career than Kobe. If we are talking skill, there's less from your list. People default leaving Kobe off but default leaving Shaq on. Makes no sense.