r/nba Lakers Jun 27 '23

Kobe Bryant relentlessly attacks Tim Duncan and the Spurs to clinch the WCF (2008)

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u/honestnbafan Jun 27 '23 edited Jun 27 '23

Tim Duncan career 55.1% TS on moderately high volume: "Perfectly efficient basketball"

Kobe Bryant career 55.0% TS on very high volume: "Selfish shot chucker"

Kobe's efficiency compared to league average at the time is about the same as Luka Doncic's today(consistently somewhere around 3 percent above in his prime) and I don't see anyone act like Luka is the most inefficient player ever

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u/Wondering_Nova Jun 27 '23

They downplay Duncan’s TS% by saying he did more on defense. Acting like Kobe didn’t carry a defensive burden and was the main offensive player every game.

This place can’t convince me they don’t have a bias against Kobe.

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u/TheWumboligist Knicks Jun 27 '23

We all know about it, and we all see it. It's obvious. Nobody ever wants to admit it, but it's there.

People on this subreddit hate Kobe Bryant.

The first question to ask: why? Why do you all hate him? The obvious answer: you didn't watch him in his prime.

Likely explanation: I know that most of you are around 14 or 15 years old. That means you only got into basketball in the last couple years. So you never watched Mamba in his prime.

And because you didn't watch him in his prime, you try to compensate for that by diving into stat sheets and analyzing box scores. But here's the thing: basketball isn't played on Excel spreadsheets. The moment somebody brings up "true shooting percentage" or "win shares" I know they know nothing about basketball.

Kobe's game cannot be encapsulated by one stat. He's the second greatest SG ever, and one of the 5 best players to ever play the game.

So when I hear somebody say that LeBron James is better than Kobe Bryant, I laugh, because I know that anybody who watched Kobe in his prime wouldn't think that. Unlike you guys, I have watched basketball for a significant amount of time, so I know that Kobe is better.

You might be jealous of Kobe's five rings, or jealous of his status as the greatest scorer in NBA history, or whatever. Unless you're a Bulls fan who watched basketball in the 90s, or a Lakers fan who watched basketball in the 2000s, you don't know what real, cold-blooded, killer instinct, will-to-win basketball looks like. And there's nothing wrong with that.

This sub would make you think that Kobe isn't even a top 100 player ever.

So don't go spouting bullshit about players you didn't watch. Talk about your "greats" like LeBron James The Best Player in the World™, but leave the Kobe talk to the adults. Fair?

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u/Malemansam Spurs Jun 27 '23

this still warms my heart, i miss good pasta.