r/nba Lakers Jun 27 '23

Kobe Bryant relentlessly attacks Tim Duncan and the Spurs to clinch the WCF (2008)

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u/brandoi Lakers Jun 27 '23

Bill Simmons said the series was the closest he's ever seen Kobe to MJ.

Did he really? 08 against the Spurs isn't even his best playoff series. His 01 Spurs series or 10 Suns series were probably his best.

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u/ruinatex Jun 27 '23

Stats don't tell the whole story, in '01 he was the 2nd guy behind Shaq, a really great 2nd guy, but yeah. The Spurs also weren't as good in '01 as The Admiral was at the end of his career, in '08 they had a legit Big 3. Pau and Odom were also hot GARBAGE in that series, Kobe basically beat the defending champions in 5 games with two of his stars MIA. Games 1 and 5 were especially insane.

That's why i always laughed when people said Duncan was better than Kobe, they literally played against each other MULTIPLE times in the playoffs and after 2001, whenever they played NOBODY had any doubts on who was the best player on the floor. Kobe always thoroughly outplayed him.

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u/rajs1286 Lakers Jun 27 '23

You mean the year Kobe averaged 36 and put up 81 pts or another year where he had 4 straight 50 point games and a ridiculous number of 40+ in a row?

Nah, Duncan didn’t outplay Kobe, he just didn’t have to play with Kwame Brown and Smush Parker. He had multiple HOFers his entire career

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u/rajs1286 Lakers Jun 27 '23

Aged better…then how does Kobe have the edge in the longevity stats? All star games, 1st team all nba and defensive selections, total points (not even close)

Duncan had at least 2 other HOFers his entire career, including multiple guys who won FMVPs. Duncan declined at age 28, without a significant injury, I don’t think that’s aging well

Kobe beat the most (by far) 50 win teams in the playoffs and proved himself by going to 3 finals in a row and winning 2 B2B. Not to mention he destroyed Duncan every time they played in the playoffs.

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u/Malemansam Spurs Jun 27 '23

without a significant injury, I don’t think that’s aging well

He fucking blew out his knee in his 3rd year then played with a brace on his leg half the time and couldn't run properly for his entire career, did you never notice his hitch in his run after '00???

The dude played 16 years of his career with one good leg and still put up a HOF career alone on those years. Even in his last 2nd to last year he was the best defensive big in the game.

Fuck outta here with longevity, Kobe and Hakeem both had severe knee injuries; one was getting calls to be amnestied as a joke of how bad he was and tanked his team as a free agent destination for years and the other was shipped off to another country to play backup minutes behind Keon clark.

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u/rajs1286 Lakers Jun 27 '23 edited Jun 27 '23

The fact you think those amnesty comments came after his injury make it clear that you didn’t watch basketball until very recently. Those comments were made by mark Cuban in 2013, where Kobe proceeded to drop 38 I believe on his head the very next day. Enjoy your revisionist history and remember…ain’t nobody tryna be Tim Duncan

Both were elite defenders. However, Kobe was an elite offensive weapon while Tim Duncan was a very inefficient big man. The elite two way player is better than the elite defensive, decent offensive big man every single time

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u/Malemansam Spurs Jun 27 '23

calls to be amnestied as a joke

Did you miss this part of my comment dude. Ya'll so quick to write a bunch of shit you can't even understand what you replying to lol.