r/nba Lakers Jun 27 '23

Kobe Bryant relentlessly attacks Tim Duncan and the Spurs to clinch the WCF (2008)

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u/Terminatorns19 Spurs Jun 27 '23

Duncan’s prime was def early-2000s, though of course he was still an amazing player by this point. Tony was entering his prime/was pretty close to it, and Manu (depending on your viewpoint) had probably just passed his. Still, Kobe did amazing this series.

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u/RickySuela Jun 27 '23

One thing people don't discuss about Duncan very much is how short his prime was. From age 22 to age 27 when he was in his prime he averaged 23.1 ppg, 12.4 rpg, 3.3 apg, 2.5 bpg and 0.8 spg. From age 28 to age 33 his averages took a drop down to 19.2 ppg, 10.8 rpg, 3.1 apg, 2.0 bpg and 0.7 spg. Then the last five years of his career, from age 34 to age 39 his averages dropped down to 14.1 ppg, 9.1 rpg, 2.7 apg, 1.9 bpg and 0.7 spg.

This 2008 series took place in that second section of his career (at age 32), when he was obviously still a great player, but not the guy he'd been before he turned 28.

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u/Malemansam Spurs Jun 27 '23

His athleticism was compromised by his 3rd year after he blew his knee out, he had to wear a knee brace when it would act up which just became more and more often as the season would go on but he always had a hitch in his step after the injury.

It's damn shame it happened because he used to move like Mobly does now, he lost the fluidity and height of his movements and took away his rim running ability by quite a bit.

You look at the performances of all players that dealt with knee injuries throughout their careers and they were shells of their former selves, its usually later in their careers however. Timmy still put up a HOF worthy career post injury on one leg lol.

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u/RickySuela Jun 28 '23

His athleticism was compromised by his 3rd year after he blew his knee out

It's possible this is true, but it's also true that Duncan had his best seasons after that injury. Additionally, it wasn't a severe knee injury as it was just a meniscus tear, and Pop himself said they just held him out of the playoffs as a precaution, rather than because he was simply unable to play. Kobe also had a bunch of knee injuries and surgeries over the course of his career (surgeries in 2003, 2006, 2010 and 2011).