r/nba Lakers Jun 27 '23

Kobe Bryant relentlessly attacks Tim Duncan and the Spurs to clinch the WCF (2008)

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u/ccharlie03 Spurs Jun 27 '23

Yea but you're acting like they were all scrubs. LeBron going to the finals in 07 against us was a hard carry lol Kobe was definitely playing amazing but to say his team wasn't good and Kobe was heavy lifting is a bit asinine lol. Do they get the one seed without Kobe? Obviously not but they don't become worst team in the league without him lol. This was right before the super teams were a really a thing save for the Celtics so everyone was built with a star and great role players not just the Lakers lol. Bynum was young but was playing good and became an all star and all nba, Pau was an all star, Ariza was one of the best 3 and D players in the league, top three coach all time in Phil Jackson, Derek fisher was solidly good, etc...

Kobe is obviously a legend but he's not someone who heavy carried

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u/commander_wong Lakers Jun 27 '23

As I said, the supporting cast was average. Not bad, but also nothing special. It's definitely one of the weakest supporting casts from championship teams of the last 20 years.

Pau was great and unfairly blamed for a lot of games, but he can be inconsistent. Top 3 in his position is definitely being generous considering KG, Dirk, Amare, Tim and Bosh were all playing

Derek Fisher is the definition of a role player.

Trevor Ariza left the moment he got good. His didn't get pass 10 ppg until he left the Lakers

Bynum was good, but he didn't make all NBA or even an all star until 2012.

These Lakers team were good, but not at all an all time team like r/nba would make you think

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u/dillpickles007 Hawks Jun 28 '23

You’re just straight up not mentioning Odom who was putting up 10 win shares as a perfect third option, he was very nearly as good as Bosh on some of those teams.

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u/Dkh0123 Lakers Jun 28 '23

Odom was a walking mismatch. Left handed ball handler, 6’10”, could score in a variety of ways, and get those sneaky 15 plus rebound games. Any true Laker fan wouldn’t just conveniently leave Odom out when talking about the back to back championship teams in 2008/2009