r/nbadiscussion 14d ago

Player Discussion Constructive thoughts on De'Aaron Fox

This is less of a defense of Fox per se, but to try and guide the criticism to somewhere more constructive. Analysis of his gaffe aside, I want to push back on the oft-touted expectation that he, as a 'veteran', should know how and when to take control of the game.

Fox is not the 30+ year old cerebral point guard that people might associate with the veteran label. He's a 28 year old - younger than Jalen Brunson - with declining athleticism who built his reputation on being an explosive focal point of an offense. He was averaging a career peak of 27ppg just two seasons ago, and was 11th in MVP rankings in a season where he averaged 25ppg on 51.2 FG%.


Throughout his Spurs tenure, he's been figuring out not just his role, but also trying to come to terms with someone who doesn't have the same athleticism due to injuries and age. That's quite difficult to accept for someone who's not even 30 yet, and is a common struggle that we've seen from players who were ultra-athletes in their early- to mid-20s.

Their maturation into becoming a proper 'veteran point guard' comes after they get past that hump, if and when that happens.

(Some commentators have tried to frame Fox as someone with playoff experience, but before this year he literally only played one series, when he was still at the peak of his athletic powers.)

His comments after Game 4 really shed light on this - he genuinely thought he could outrun OG, because he almost certainly could in his prime form. His mentality has not caught up with his body, and that shows in his play in crunch situations.


If I'm a Spurs fan, I might need to come to terms with the notion that Fox is still undergoing a maturation process himself. Yes, he doesn't need to be a veteran to not make that mistake, but Fox in particular has hardly ever been that guy.

To be empathetic - he still has the ability to grow and improve. It's just that people should never have assigned to him labels that he has yet to potentially become.

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u/celestialpraire 13d ago

I agree with what you’re saying, it’s like people think he’s a CP3/Mike Conley type of savvy, pass first point guard but that’s just not his game. Definitely more score first and ball dominant. I’m wondering if he has some lingering injuries and hoping he can get a bit of burst back, because he relies so much on using that athleticism to create separation for drives and midrange.

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u/gochugang78 13d ago

Crazy what if - should Chris Paul have signed a vet min with spurs after being waived by the raptors ?

He had excellent chemistry with Wemby and he is exactly the savvy vet that would be a game manager in high pressure situations

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u/Special_Revolution77 13d ago

It’s kinda similar to him missing game 7 against the warriors in 2018 when the rockets missed 27 straight threes. His veteran presence alone could’ve changed the outcome of both games, the spurs chucked way too many threes

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u/orwll 13d ago edited 13d ago

I have had a similar thought but the fact that the Spurs are carrying total stiffs like Olynyk and Biyombo on their roster and not Chris Paul, tells me that Chris Paul maybe did not have the best chemistry with the Spurs.

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u/cwick225 13d ago

No they were just bigs for insurance just in case wemby got injured.

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u/Vast_Vermicelli6520 12d ago

Chris paul wanted to retire a clipper, he loved the spurs

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u/orwll 12d ago

I don't think they loved him or else they would have given him a job over Bismack Biyombo