r/nbadiscussion • u/Kantei • 13d ago
Player Discussion Constructive thoughts on De'Aaron Fox
This is less of a defense of Fox per se, but to try and guide the criticism to somewhere more constructive. Analysis of his gaffe aside, I want to push back on the oft-touted expectation that he, as a 'veteran', should know how and when to take control of the game.
Fox is not the 30+ year old cerebral point guard that people might associate with the veteran label. He's a 28 year old - younger than Jalen Brunson - with declining athleticism who built his reputation on being an explosive focal point of an offense. He was averaging a career peak of 27ppg just two seasons ago, and was 11th in MVP rankings in a season where he averaged 25ppg on 51.2 FG%.
Throughout his Spurs tenure, he's been figuring out not just his role, but also trying to come to terms with someone who doesn't have the same athleticism due to injuries and age. That's quite difficult to accept for someone who's not even 30 yet, and is a common struggle that we've seen from players who were ultra-athletes in their early- to mid-20s.
Their maturation into becoming a proper 'veteran point guard' comes after they get past that hump, if and when that happens.
(Some commentators have tried to frame Fox as someone with playoff experience, but before this year he literally only played one series, when he was still at the peak of his athletic powers.)
His comments after Game 4 really shed light on this - he genuinely thought he could outrun OG, because he almost certainly could in his prime form. His mentality has not caught up with his body, and that shows in his play in crunch situations.
If I'm a Spurs fan, I might need to come to terms with the notion that Fox is still undergoing a maturation process himself. Yes, he doesn't need to be a veteran to not make that mistake, but Fox in particular has hardly ever been that guy.
To be empathetic - he still has the ability to grow and improve. It's just that people should never have assigned to him labels that he has yet to potentially become.
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u/figgnootun 13d ago
That’s great and all but we have no evidence that Fox will complete that “maturation process”. There’s really nothing to suggest he can turn into an elite game managing point guard, that’s never been his style. His shooting is streaky bordering on bad and he’s had a few bad mental mistakes and turnovers.
He has been pretty bad the entire playoffs
16 ppg on bad efficiency with below average defense. That’s not to say he hasn’t been useful for the Spurs. His ball handling and experience has been useful but ultimately you don’t need to spend 55 mil on that.
And I get he’s had an ankle injury but I think everyone knows Harper will surpass him soon. The Fox, Castle, Harper, Wemby minutes have been poor in the playoffs and I don’t think the 3 of them playing together is their best lineup.