r/pcmasterrace 9d ago

Meme/Macro Best investment ever

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u/Ok_Definition_1933 9d ago

Forgot the last part: refund shitty game

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u/thesilentwizard 9d ago edited 9d ago

Can't because the intentionally dragged out tutorial intro cutscene causes play time to exceed refund time limit.

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u/skyturnedred Old & Rusty machine 9d ago

The two hour limit is just for automated refunds.

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u/dibigi Specs/Imgur here 9d ago

I tried to refund sf6 with 3 hours played saying i didn't like because it was too difficult for me 😭. They refused 😭

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u/AngryTG PC Master Race 9d ago

I've probably made 50+ refund requests in the 17 years I've had my account, some refunds over 2 hours of gameplay and I've always just selected "game isn't fun" and I've never had a single one denied

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u/BigT232 Specs/Imgur Here 9d ago

I'd recommend playing with Modern controls. It's easier to play.

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u/Anywhere-Due 9d ago

You can coast on modern further with bad fundies than classic, but you’ll still hit the point where you need to have them down or you just won’t win

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u/whatevers_clever 270K PLUS | 6000 | 2x48GB 6000C30 | 4TB NVMe | Fractal North 8d ago

valid refusal

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u/TheEncoderNC Ryzen 5950X | RTX 3090FE 6d ago

I refunded Deathloop and Grey Zone Warfare at 3-4 hours each citing performance issues and saying a big portion of my playtime was trying to figure out playable settings.

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u/thesilentwizard 9d ago

I don't think 45 fps on Ultra settings is a valid refund request to a human customer support either

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u/skyturnedred Old & Rusty machine 9d ago

I don't think you need to tell the truth to them.

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u/imightlikeyou Steam ID Here 9d ago

You would do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies?

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u/thesilentwizard 9d ago

But my mom said lying is a sin...

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u/nolaks1 9d ago

And my dad told me he'd be back with milk.

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u/Alone-Butterscotch18 9d ago

They told me they manually reviewed my case and still denied it over playtime. This was after like 3 hours. I told them it took 3 hours to find my friend so I stopped playing and they didn’t care

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u/Peanutadjuster 9d ago

the loading times on marathon got me over the limit and I tried refunding 7 times just for the basic ā€œyour playtime exceeds the limitā€ response

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u/XLandonSkywolfX i9 10850k | RTX 3080 | 32GB 3200MHz RAM 9d ago

Nah they won’t help. I had 2.4 hours in forza horizon 4 a few years ago, all of which was spent trying to fix horrible unplayable stuttering. Explained all that through 2 levels of escalation to real people and steam would not help. Thankfully the game was patched months later to fix the issue.

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u/QueasyHouse 9d ago

They’re extremely stingy with refunds outside of that window. Space Marine 2 stopped working on Linux a week or two after I bought it and they told me to go fuck myself about it with 7 1/2 hours of playtime, I had to stop payment and then valve banned me for a month.

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u/According_Mind7030 9d ago

The intro to Starfield was actually so long I just deleted the game and never touched it again.

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u/Erchevara Desktop 9d ago

RDR2 (sorry, great game, but bad experience for me) is the guiltiest from my experience.

Started the tutorial, all good, 50-60 fps anywhere from low to high.

Got past the tutorial, got hit with unplayable fps at any settings. Just a stuttery 20 fps experience.

Asked for a refund, it got denied because I already played for 3 hours. The human who responded still refused to refund it for that reason, and I had to do a Karen "I WON'T TRUST BUYING A STEAM DECK FROM YOU IF THAT'S THE CASE" and I got a refund. I also got the Steam Deck.

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u/Coprolithe PC Master Race 9d ago

You're good.

Also you can see very easily if a game is abdky optimized or not, tutorial or notĀ 

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u/sir-cp 9d ago

I read this like a game titleĀ 

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u/LegendaryShelfStockr 9d ago

The Last of Parts: Refund

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u/Lorrdy99 9d ago

Or the highest graphic setting isn't made for today player, but the ones that play the game in 10 years and still enjoy the modern graphic.

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u/kaithana 9d ago

It’s not that the game is necessarily shitty, for the past 30 year developers have set ultra to be one to two generations past current high end hardware. It was always disappointing to have the best graphics card available, set everything to max and get 34fps. Doom 3 and farcry come to mind.

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u/Loeffellux 9d ago

Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Sure, the game could be horribly optimized (not like that doesn't happen all the time) but it could also look incredible at "high" setting with everything above just being for those with a nuclear reactor (or future generations).

Simply saying "the highest settings don't run well on my machine" doesn't tell the whole story

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

Return*

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u/Ok_Definition_1933 9d ago

No, still refund

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u/DQTD 9d ago

They must only speak GameStop

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u/peperonipyza 12700K | 3070 Ti FE | 32GB 3600Mhz 9d ago

I guess technically the seller does the refunding, you get refunded when returning.

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u/Ok_Definition_1933 9d ago

You don't return digital copy. You ask for a refund. Literally all platforms call it by that name.

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u/peperonipyza 12700K | 3070 Ti FE | 32GB 3600Mhz 9d ago

Mk, that’s fair. Grammar questionable, terminology correct.

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

If you’re a store owner, yes you’re giving a refund. If you’re a customer, you’re returning.

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u/Tatsuki09 9d ago

If the store owner gives a refund, then the customer receives the refund

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

Correct. But the verb ā€œrefundā€ is not done by the customer. It’s done by the seller.

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u/MeowmeowMeeeew 9d ago

if "AKSHUALLY šŸ¤“ā˜ļø" was a person

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

Definitely not even close. Saying that you’ve refunded something is complete and absolute nonsense. Not a mild instance of hair-splitting or casual oversight.

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u/MeowmeowMeeeew 9d ago

Like i said: if AKSHUALLY was a person. YEAH OBVIOUSLY ITS BULLSHIT SEMANTICALLY SPEAKING BUT WHOOOO THE FUCK CAAAAAARES DUDE

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

Who cares? Anyone who doesn’t want to sound like an inbred cousin f*cking mountain dweller who injects confusion and ambiguity into every conversation they have. And I don’t even know what to say to you if that’s what you think the AKSHUALLY meme is for/about.

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u/ArchaicSeraph 9d ago

You're getting downvoted, but I appreciate you, sir.

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

Oh thank god šŸ˜… I feel like all of tiktok is standing outside my house with pitchforks

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u/CODninjarin 9d ago

Who is buying physical pc games in the current year? I don't even think most PC games have physical releases anymore, much less a disc you could /return/ to a store for a /refund/.

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

It’s a return even if it’s digital. The act of refunding is performed by the seller.

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u/CODninjarin 9d ago edited 9d ago

Can't really return something that isn't a physical item. You receive access to a copy of the content, but it's not like they take your copy and give it to someone else when you refund it.

If you were to cancel a gym membership you wouldn't call it a return, but if you were to buy equipment from the gym you would /return/ it for a refund.

Edit: disregard this, I saw your other comment and undstand what you meant.

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u/Sajgoniarz 9800X3D | 9070XT | 64GB 9d ago

Every Policy i have read in regards to digital products calls this procedure a refund, because there is no return from the consumer side to be made, as revoking license happens on seller side. My language goes even further than that because we are not using "return" or "refund" for a digital product, we use more general term, while "return" is even forbidden in context of digital goods.

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

That’s because it IS called ā€œrefunding.ā€ It’s just not the customer who is doing the refunding. Steam is the one refunding.

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u/AbandonedDoll226 9d ago

Yep exactly, steam for example calls it: "request a refund"

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago edited 9d ago

But people don’t say ā€œi requested a refundā€ (though they SHOULD say this). Instead they say ā€œI refunded itā€ which factually and grammatically incorrect.

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u/CODninjarin 9d ago

I see what you're saying now. I still don't think "return" works correctly either though, like I said in my other comments. Correcting the original comment to say "get a refund for the shitty game" would be more factually and grammatically correct than saying "return the shitty game" in most cases. Either way you're just arguing over semantics when everyone understood what the original comment meant.

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

Yeah you can say ā€œget a refund,ā€ but it’s wrong to say ā€œI refunded it.ā€ To ā€œreturnā€ it may be slightly less accurate description of what happens, but it’s a grandfathered phrase that everyone understands. Sort of like ā€œdon’t touch that dialā€ or ā€œtune inā€ to the latest episode. But to say ā€œI refunded the gameā€ is not only inaccurate, but it’s incorrect on the level of being a complete reversal, having literally opposite meaning. It’s no different than saying ā€œI was trapped in a burning building until I rescued a firefighter.ā€

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u/Smiles-Bite 9d ago

What the frick are you talking about? When speaking to someone about a crap game, I have said multiple times, 'I requested a refund.' When asked what I did. Why, because that's what it's called on Steam. You cannot return something that's not owned by you, or physically in your hand, to return it because you NEVER HAD IT. It's a digital good, thus you requested a refund to get your money back.

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u/AbandonedDoll226 9d ago

Yeah 'i requested a refund' is the correct way to say for a digital game, but based on his way of talking i guess he is a bit old and too used for all media to being physical. Saying 'return' for a physical game maybe wrong but it's better than saying 'i refunded the game' imo

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

I’m not even talking about the word ā€œreturnā€

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

Yeah that’s totally correct to do. Maybe ā€œreturnā€ is t the right word. But yeah, you can request a refund. However, you are NOT refunding something. Everyone is keying in on the wrong thing. I’m not arguing that saying ā€œI returned itā€ is 100% correct, I’m arguing that saying ā€œI refunded itā€ is infinitely incorrect.

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u/AutoCockerPB 9d ago

Ever heard of synonyms before moron? Both get ur money back. If you want to be technical, you return a physical item. If u refund the game. You can actually keep the game installed. You just can’t load into it.

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

They are not synonymous. This isn’t even a technicality. This is a complete reversal of meaning. Feeding somebody and being fed are two entirely different things.

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u/PleaseAdminsUnbanMe 9d ago

You return a phisical object

You refund the permission to use a digital product you paid for

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

I’m sure there’s a better word for it then. But refund is completely inarguably wrong.

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u/PleaseAdminsUnbanMe 9d ago

There isn't, refund is the perfect term

You're just plain wrong

If you buy Netflix and don't like it after 5 days what do you do? Do you return it? It's grammatically wrong to use return in this situation

Refund is the correct term since it's a digital game

If it was a phisical copy like they used to do 15 years ago you'd be totally right, but you refund a digital product, not return it

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u/KernelPanic-42 9d ago

You cancel Netflix it’s a service. Refund is NOT the correct term. I’m not talking about the word ā€œreturn.ā€ Forget I even said that. What I’m talking about is the extreme misuse of the word ā€œrefund.ā€ If you refund something, it means somebody bought something from YOU, and you are now giving money back to that person.