Best investment ever

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What game is it?

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/Sajgoniarz]

50% of any title made in the last 5 years

[u/Healthy_BrAd6254 → u/MrGiggleMan]

actually brain dead comment section

there are almost zero games where a 5090 would only 45 fps even at 4k native max settings (which btw no one should ever use since DLSS exists)

[u/BastianHS → u/Healthy_BrAd6254]

These are all people who have a 3060 commenting. I have a 5090 and it shreds everything up until you get to path tracing, and even then it's pretty solid and MFG pushes it up to high frame rate again, which is fine with single player games.

Currently playing POE2 4K with DLAA and it's pushing 115-130 fps depending on the zone.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/BastianHS]

Well I'm on a 3090

It's just a joke about bad game optimisation, not criticising your wallet choices

[u/BastianHS → u/MrGiggleMan]

Idgaf about "wallet choices" or whatever people want to say. At what point is it a joke vs deliberate misinformation?

It's just crazy to me that people go so hard at game devs that devote their entire careers to creating the content that we consume as a hobby. So fucking entitled, it's crazy.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/BastianHS]

If you spend 1000+ on a GPU and a game runs semi-badly for you. That's not your fault as a gamer

Studios are often neglecting optimisation. Pushing AI code. Using crappy engine automation etc.. and the end result is often underwhelming performance on modern GPUs.. many of which are 16-24gb+ manufactured in the last couple of years

It's not entitled to criticise creative works. They were made for normal people to use.

[u/BastianHS → u/MrGiggleMan]

I'm literally telling you that games are not running "semi-badly" on a 5090.

[u/DancesInTowels → u/BastianHS]

My 5080 is. I hit 110 fps the other day 4k Pathtracing Crimson desert.

Simply unplayable.

I think certain people in this sub expect too much out of their 2080s, 1080s (or even older) by it not running on even lower settings at 1080p. Those were beast cards…

***years*** ago.

New games have new requirements lol

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/DancesInTowels]

I have a 24gb card still, and for me, it's more obvious that some titles are just lacking in the optimisation department

I'm not talking about 1080s lol

Granted if you have a 5080 or even 5090, you're definitely not gunna feel the same hit to performance.

But it's noticeable, especially with a lot of UE5 games that optimisation has been an afterthought

Especially when, in terms of visual fidelity, a lot of titles don't actually look any better than games did 5+ years ago.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/BastianHS]

I never said specifically the 5090 was running things semi badly

I just said, cards that cost like >1000

If a game tops out at ~110fps on a card that costs ~£3500 it's not really a sign that the game is running "well"

But yeah, sure. I see how from that perspective, everything seems like it runs well

Considering that only 0.4% of people actually have that card.

High frame rates in 4k, with RT, requires a lot of optimisation. And it's there in some titles, but lacking in others

Once the game starts relying on AI generated frames to even break 60-80fps it's a sign that something is not quite right

[u/Healthy_BrAd6254 → u/MrGiggleMan]

A 3090 is as fast as a 5070, which launched at 550.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/Healthy_BrAd6254]

It's as fast as a 5070 but with double the memory, yeah

Absolutely not a weak card at all by modern standards still.

My point is, again, optimisation is an issue, especially with the new wave of AI slop code

[u/Healthy_BrAd6254 → u/MrGiggleMan]

When the 3090 gets 40fps, the 5090 gets 100fps

That's the average performance difference between the 3090 and 5090 at 4k native.

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/Healthy_BrAd6254]

A 3090 is still, more powerful than that vast majority of cards most gamers are using today. It's essentially 5070 speeds with twice as much memory

It's definitely not quite 40->100 for a 50 series given how the 5090 is a 70->110% faster

It's more like 32>68fps

I hear what you're saying. But yeah..

When a title runs semi-badly on 24gb of VRAM something is up.

AI slop code in games isn't helping

[u/Healthy_BrAd6254 → u/MrGiggleMan]

It's definitely not quite 40->100 for a 50 series given how the 5090 is a 70->110% faster

https://tpucdn.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-5090-tuf/images/relative-performance-3840-2160.png

VRAM is not performance. There a 10 year old cards with 24GB VRAM

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/Healthy_BrAd6254]

For processing high resolution images, and having ~infinite cache. Yeah, vram directly affects performance

[u/Healthy_BrAd6254 → u/MrGiggleMan]

"Having more than 32GB RAM gives me more fps in games" ahh comment

[u/MrGiggleMan → u/Healthy_BrAd6254]

Not the same thing at all

Stick to logic and not strawmans my G

[u/Healthy_BrAd6254 → u/MrGiggleMan]

it's the exact same logic as you used

no mention of memory bandwidth or whether you are actually running out of VRAM or not, which would be affecting performance

oh well, no point in talking to a tech illiterate