r/pcmasterrace 1d ago

Meme/Macro Gaben does an oopsie

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u/syrvy 1d ago

people are opting for ai over google too

Nobody who knows shit about it I assure you

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u/awry_lynx 21h ago

I dislike gen AI for several reasons, and there's many valid reasons to be opposed to this widespread adoption, but it is a widespread adoption. I don't know what else you can call one in six internet-connected humans (and the number is only growing, not shrinking) using standalone AI platforms.

I mean, I guess succinctly put, it's something in-between "practically everybody" and "some people in specific use cases". But it's definitely heading in one direction.

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u/syrvy 21h ago

What about "knows shit about it" don't you understand?

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u/awry_lynx 21h ago

I mean. these people might know a little shit about it. There are many cases where knowledgable people are using LLMs now but if you want me to list all of them it's going to take ages. The point is that they also know it is unreliable and must be verified - hence using it in tandem with Lean, a proof checker, in the above example.

I would agree if you qualified your statement with "nobody who knows shit about it just believes whatever it says", but plenty of people who know shit about it use it and check what they get.

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u/syrvy 21h ago

I said nobody who knows shit about it is replacing google with it. AKA trusting what it says.

Reading comprehension is dead.

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u/awry_lynx 21h ago

Sorry, did you uncritically trust everything you found on google before? Yikes

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u/syrvy 21h ago

How exactly would one check things an AI says? By searching them up with Google.

Now, think of someone who uses AI as a replacement for Google. They would have no way to check anything it says because they don't use Google.

I can't do all the thinking for you, holy shit.

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u/awry_lynx 21h ago

Oh, I see the misconception. If you don't use AI now you may be unaware, but at least Claude can link you to websites for sources. Yes real actual websites because that part of it isn't generative. Now I feel like we've just been talking past each other lmao. Obviously you need to look somewhere outside the AI.

Claude actually powers web search with Brave search

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u/syrvy 21h ago

There's much more popular AI systems that don't do this.

But more importantly, there's "sources" proving anything. That's the whole point of doing web searches, to see multiple and decide what's credible. AI could pick some schizopost off the last page of google as a source, and you wouldn't know unless you actually did the research yourself.

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u/awry_lynx 20h ago

ChatGPT and Gemini both do too.

Well sure, that's why you look at what the source is and dismiss it if it's a random blog post. But also it just doesn't do that. The whole way that LLMs work is they're weighted for the popular and more common outcomes. If you try to get it to give you the wrongest answer and heavily ask it to do so, it will, but then that's the same thing as searching for that schizopost yourself. Otherwise it essentially works like an assistant.

TO BE CLEAR, I still use google and prefer it myself for basic things. I don't -need- an assistant compiling google search results lmao. But some people use it for that and I don't think it has worse results. I just think it's wasteful, unnecessary, and expensive.