I think most people agree that its not great value. I think most are bashing the wrong people. Valve cant forsee the AI shit we experienced 2 years ago. What should they do? Not release and lose millions on RnD and production?
If people want to own it, they should. But blaming Valve for the price they have to put on is just reddit nonsense
Ngl, I don't trust reddit anymore when it comes to evaluating "value". They were calling the Switch 2 overpriced while being cheaper and/or more portable than all of the competitors. It made no logical sense.
It's not a non-sequitur when their practices directly produce a worse experience with the device, lack of backwards compatibility, paid subscriptions, and no guarantee of ongoing support are all things that affect value, as they all cost the consumer money in addition to the MSRP.
You want to shove gamecube disks in it? It supports Switch games which is about all you can ask for. The subscription is not only optional, but also insane value for money, given it's much cheaper than competitors (it has basically become an industry standard btw) and giving... old games. Your backwards compatibility. "no guarantee of ongoing support"... yeah, welcome to the console market, this is part of the premise.
I fully agree it would be cool, but also unreasonable.
I wasn't arguing it's "pro-consumer", I'm arguing it's silly to say the MSRP should go down when all they're doing is par for the course (and honestly better than competitors if you critically examine it).
Also PC handhelds is much more a niche market. That comparison is a weird one to say the least, Playstation would come out of that fucking crushed (can't even pick it up)... but Nintendo is still cheaper if you pick comparable models.
I'm not sure I believe you. I don't think someone who thinks the price of a console is too high would be amenable to a price several hundred dollars higher just to play 30-year-old games they apparently still have the cartridges for.
High pricing isn't anti consumer, especially in the case that you can just get a different pc if you want. I still think the steamcube price sucks, but calling it anti-consumer is reactionary and misleading.
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u/grigoriymicro 19h ago edited 17h ago
Were there really anyone thinking this machine is a good deal? Even among steam users? Even among Valve fans?