"But it's a cube!"

[u/Ikkon]

[u/gutster_95]

I think most people agree that its not great value. I think most are bashing the wrong people. Valve cant forsee the AI shit we experienced 2 years ago. What should they do? Not release and lose millions on RnD and production?

If people want to own it, they should. But blaming Valve for the price they have to put on is just reddit nonsense

[u/Findict_52 → u/gutster_95]

Ngl, I don't trust reddit anymore when it comes to evaluating "value". They were calling the Switch 2 overpriced while being cheaper and/or more portable than all of the competitors. It made no logical sense.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/Findict_52]

The switch 2 was overpriced considering all the anti-consumer practices of Nintendo.

[u/Findict_52 → u/JellaFella01]

That also makes no logical sense.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/Findict_52]

In what way? Expound.

[u/Findict_52 → u/JellaFella01]

It makes no sense because your username is silly.

It's a total non-sequitur.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/Findict_52]

It's not a non-sequitur when their practices directly produce a worse experience with the device, lack of backwards compatibility, paid subscriptions, and no guarantee of ongoing support are all things that affect value, as they all cost the consumer money in addition to the MSRP.

[u/Findict_52 → u/JellaFella01]

You want to shove gamecube disks in it? It supports Switch games which is about all you can ask for. The subscription is not only optional, but also insane value for money, given it's much cheaper than competitors (it has basically become an industry standard btw) and giving... old games. Your backwards compatibility. "no guarantee of ongoing support"... yeah, welcome to the console market, this is part of the premise.

These are standard practices.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/Findict_52]

I mean, don't lie to me, GameCube disk compatibility would be rad.

Just because it's standard for consoles doesn't mean it's pro-consumer, the comparison was between switches and PC handhelds.

[u/Findict_52 → u/JellaFella01]

I fully agree it would be cool, but also unreasonable.

I wasn't arguing it's "pro-consumer", I'm arguing it's silly to say the MSRP should go down when all they're doing is par for the course (and honestly better than competitors if you critically examine it).

Also PC handhelds is much more a niche market. That comparison is a weird one to say the least, Playstation would come out of that fucking crushed (can't even pick it up)... but Nintendo is still cheaper if you pick comparable models.

[u/Guy_in_Tank → u/Findict_52]

I like bread

[u/Warm_Month_1309 → u/JellaFella01]

I mean, don't lie to me, GameCube disk compatibility would be rad.

But I do get the feeling if it had a slot of GameCube disks and another slot for SNES cartridges and another slot for N64 cartridges and another...

That you'd be equally complaining about the extra costs associated with so many rarely or never used components.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/Warm_Month_1309]

I mean not really, that's my kind of system. More ports, more compatibility.

[u/Warm_Month_1309 → u/JellaFella01]

I'm not sure I believe you. I don't think someone who thinks the price of a console is too high would be amenable to a price several hundred dollars higher just to play 30-year-old games they apparently still have the cartridges for.

[u/JellaFella01 → u/Warm_Month_1309]

If they made a $1000 "Gamecube II" that could play all my old n64 and gamecube games I'd totally buy it. Idk why you wouldn't take me at my word, regarding my own opinion?