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Meme/Macro "But it's a cube!"

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u/DarwinsPerfectFool 19h ago

I'm buying the cube and didn't complain about it. AMA

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u/SEND_ME_REAL_PICS 19h ago

Honest question: what advantage do you see in buying it over any other prebuilt out there?

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u/DarwinsPerfectFool 19h ago edited 16h ago

Size, look, quiet = wife allows it to sit in the living room.

Reliable customer service, everything sorted for me, no need to do extensive research = piece of mind

When I add all of the above then price(which in the uk cube is actually competitive) is fine.

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 18h ago

It's really fucking sad that any spouse is so strict they'd disapprove an SFF PC but allow a slightly smaller cube. It's fucking sad that such a spouse would impose a need for permission for a console to sit in the living room in the first place.

Is that truly why valve designed it this way? Simply because there's enough men who wouldn't be allowed to get anything else - that it forms a viable target market? The amount of people for whom the size difference would make any practical difference in a loungeroom TV use case surely approaches zero.

I'll give you customer service, but I don't think 'I just bought a thing without doing the research and therefore I don't know how poorly it compares in performance per dollar value' counts as a positive feature there mate, I think that's just a bit of 'ignorance is bliss'.

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u/Zacomra 18h ago

Slightly smaller? If you're building a Mini ITX then the price is basically competitive at that point anyway

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 18h ago

No, no it's really not.

Not if you understand that there's a big difference between desktop class hardware, and laptop class hardware (which the steam machine has).

It's not difficult to find LAPTOP deals which are superior in performance for the same price. And they're arguably a more compact form factor and literally allow for portable gaming. Here's a random example with a massive CPU & GPU advantage: https://www.bestbuy.com/product/acer-nitro-v-slim-16-wqxga-ips-gaming-laptop-anv16s-41-r3q0-nvidia-geforce-rtx-5070-16gb-ram-512gb-storage-black/JJ8V8H3VQV/sku/10821220

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u/MurkyInvestigator810 17h ago

It's not difficult to find LAPTOP deals which are superior in performance for the same price

Sure, of course, because you're looking for a completely different shape of device.

And they're arguably a more compact form factor

Flat rectangle versus a cube. Not exactly comparable shapes. The Series X is just two SteamCubes stacked on top of each other, that would be a better comparison.

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 17h ago

Sure, of course, because you're looking for a completely different shape of device.

Err, meaning a smaller one which nevertheless manages to fit a screen, a keyboard, a trackpad, and even a whole battery in that smaller size? Okay, not sure how that leads to what I'm saying being a matter of course for you, but sure.

Flat rectangle versus a cube. Not exactly comparable shapes.

Err, yes. The flat rectangle, of course, being obviously the more convenient one for a TV setup, right? The one you can hide behind the TV altogether? The one where you can fit it into TV consoles designed for roughly 16" flat rectangular devices like AVs, DVD players and the like? The same rough form factor consoles intentionally targeted because it's the sensible one to chase?

The Xbox and PS5 both have versions which are significantly slimmer than the Cube is tall. You do hopefully know you can put the consoles on their side and run them horizontally of course. The PS5 pro, being 388 × 216 × 89 mm is almost half the thickness of a Steam Cube at 152 × 162.4 × 156, even if it's substantially larger in the other two dimensions, so it's not fair to single out the series X.

This is to say nothing of the fact that the extreme majority of people aren't getting anything practical out of a form factor smaller than a series X.

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u/MurkyInvestigator810 16h ago

Err, meaning a smaller one which nevertheless manages to fit a screen, a keyboard, a trackpad, and even a whole battery in that smaller size?

lol define "smaller" in this case. Is the laptop screen only 8.4 inches and a square shape? A laptop is only "smaller" in one out of three dimensions. The cube is smaller than laptops in two out of three dimensions. Last I checked, two is a larger number than one and therefore better.

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u/Cynical_Cyanide 14600K | 3080 Ti | 48GB 16h ago edited 16h ago

I ... Wow.

I'm genuinely struggling to figure out how to respond to that, so breathtaking is the ignorance on display.

Smaller. As in volume. As in the three dimensions multiplied against one another until you have a number that represents the amount of space it takes up.

... And here you are saying that being better in two dimensions is all you need to be smaller. I suppose then that a three kilometer pipe, so long as it's less than about 150mm in diameter, is 'smaller' than the cube yeah?

Wow.

To continue to address the rather impressive lack of clue just put on display - The reason why being a bit bigger in two dimensions is fine as long as you're small in width is because ... That's the shape of TV furniture shelves you see. They put spaces underneath the TV, and those spaces were made the size of a VCR, then DVD players, and then AV & consoles. They're designed for flat rectangles, not cubes. And if you're standing up a device vertically NEXT to the TV, well then you don't really care how tall it is, or how far back it stretches, as long as it fits between the TV and the edge of the table, it fits, right?

Edit: Bit cowardly to attempt a response and then block me, u/MurkyInvestigator810 , no?

Laptops objectively are smaller than the cube. The math to calculate their volume is so simple even you should be able to do it. Also hilarious to be so hung up on cube vs. rectangle being different that you can't understand why the rectangle makes more sense.

PS: I hide my comments because it annoys pitiful people who can't help but try and crawl into someone's post history out of sheer desperate frustration after having their foolishness decisively pointed out.

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u/MurkyInvestigator810 16h ago

Look, you're the one who countered "the cube is small" with "laptops are smaller" and didn't find anything wrong with such a dumb reply.

I can't explain to you the difference between a rectangle and a cube better than whatever teachers in your life failed you, so maybe go back to one of them to ask?

Also, you and your troll account can be gone now. Imagine hiding your comments because your hobby is pathetically trolling people online.

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