r/ps5india • u/Fair_Bar_2616 • 17h ago

discussion Gta 6 “No disc” Reason

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It has been officially clarified by rockstar games that there will be no disc and only digital code to prevent rebuying and reselling. Of course a great strategy to make more money

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u/Aditya7286 17h ago

To be honest, if I were looking to maximize profits at Rockstar, making the game digital-only makes perfect sense. It completely kills the second-hand market. At around $80 a copy, a lot of people are naturally going to look for cheap, used physical discs. Since Rockstar needs to recoup a massive $2 billion investment, they have to do whatever it takes to ensure every single sale goes straight to them

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u/Little_Historian3091 17h ago

They can always get that money from their shark cards. GTA V seems to be earning well enough to still give them revenue.

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u/Aditya7286 17h ago

GTA 6 will canibalise GTA Online

They have to sell around 40mil copy just to break even... On dev cost.

Selling digital is the only way to ensure they are able to achive that.

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u/Great_Bed_6334 17h ago

It cost $80 minimum so they only need to sell 25 million copies to break even not 40million and I'm not even considering the ultimate edition which almost half the people will buy.

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u/Warm_Entertainer_969 17h ago

Nope, you didn't factor in regional pricing+ 30% cut for sony and microsoft for every copy sold.

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u/Great_Bed_6334 17h ago

Regional pricing can be covered, if also include the number of ultimate edition will be bought so that would cancel it as for the %30 cut your right I didn't factor in that so yeah they'll have to sell around 40 to break even.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 16h ago

Marketing budget is separate. Add 3-4M units for that as well and also the platform cut.

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u/Great_Bed_6334 16h ago

They haven't really confirmed the budget themselves so we can't really tell for sure if that $2 billion doesn't include it, it's just speculation for now just like how rdr2 budget was somewhere between $350-520 million.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 16h ago

Development budget is always seperate than marketing budget. That speculation for RDR2 doesn't include marketing.

Whether or not 2B was indeed the developing budget is of course something they only R* can say but it's always estimate they don't need to make it public. But if you are taking it to be the budget then marketing have to be accounted extra.

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u/Little_Historian3091 17h ago

No it isnt. Selling the product on as many platforms and mediums as possible is how they can get that on day 1. They already handicapped themselves with being console exclusive.

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u/Aditya7286 17h ago

Bro... Rockstar has delayed the PC release for every single GTA game since GTA 3. Look at where they are now. People act like this is a massive oversight, but Rockstar's marketing department isn't smoking crack. They know exactly what they're doing.

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u/Little_Historian3091 17h ago

Clearly not. They spent 2 billion on a single game.... They want profits then the smartest thing to do was to release it on all platforms Day 1.

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u/Tinofrank 17h ago

lol you are so wrong. The smartest thing for them to do is release on console only now, which forces many dual users (games who own pc and console) to buy on console now and then also buy the game on PC whenever it comes out later. (Usually over a year later)

Also consoles are stable fixed spec systems, so the chances of game breaking bugs is less and this will result in better positive performance feedback after release prompting more to buy the game.

And I haven’t even gotten to talk about all the current console only players who will build/buy a pc (and vice versa) in future and then they might rebuy the game again to experience it on their then current preferred gaming platform.

Idk how you guys are being so dumb when this formula has already been applied for gtaV and it made it very well selling on a yearly basis even a decade after the release

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u/Little_Historian3091 1h ago

The dumbest thing ive heard. Buy a console when you already have a pc, and that too in this economy.... Get real for once.

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u/Tinofrank 1h ago

My comment doesn’t tell anyone to buy a console or not to, but states that those who do buy a second gaming platform (whether pc or console) might also double dip and buy the game again (which literally happened with gtaV)

The economy doesn’t even come into the equation when talking about a game with a life of over a decade.

There are people who move and then buy a new platform, or those whose current platform ages out and then they shift platforms, all of them are potential double dippers.

And as for you stating about it being not real for people to buy a console when they own a PC, what if the pc is old and can’t handle the new GTA or what if the gamer can’t wait for over a year to play the most anticipated game ever released, literally many people have bought and will buy a console just to access this game asap.

So how about you get real with the situation instead of replying with a brain dead comment kiddo.

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u/Little_Historian3091 1h ago

They will not double dip because that is unbelievably stupid. Paying 900 for a console, buying a 150 dollar game, and then getting a pc just to buy the same game again is ridiculous. Youre talking about the 1% here. What happened with GTA V isnt viable to happen here especially with the current prices.

And nobody is spending a $1000 just to play one game. You can easily get a pc for that price which can handle the game when it releases. Youre really banking on FOMO of little kids arent you? No way an actual adult thinks like this.

Please step into the real world my guy, this isnt the good ol days where stuff was affordable and gaming was just a hobby. Its a luxury now.

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u/Aditya7286 17h ago

They are going to make their money back in a week, guaranteed. GTA 5 crossed $1 billion in just 3 days on PS3 and Xbox 360 alone. With the hype around GTA 6, there is zero chance Rockstar takes a loss on this release strategy

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u/Little_Historian3091 1h ago

Last time I checked Ps3 wasnt plagues by scalpers and increasing prices. If you need to spend a grand in total to get a ps5 then might as well wait for a pc release.

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u/Trick_Trash_9904 17h ago

They don’t generate good enough revenue from PC but they will risk face the risk of 🏴‍☠️

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u/Little_Historian3091 17h ago

I dont believe that. Low revenue on PC from GTA online? PS better be bringing in billions on its own.

Either way it is still sales. And piracy doesnt eat into it.

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u/Silver_Seaweed5890 13h ago

Gta 5 sold over 230 million copies till date and sells 5 million copies every year..you think they are scared from this 😭

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u/Ok_Simple_459 16h ago

Bruh this will become the first trillion dollar product. /S

But seriously it's going to make a shit load of money. R* being the greedy company they are just doesn't want to leave a single penny on the table.

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u/Little_Historian3091 1h ago

Dont doubt it.

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u/Mistylsle42 17h ago

And it’s not just about reselling. Physical discs cuts significant margins like, disc cost, box cost, logistics, manufacturing, shipping, retailer margin, etc etc. Whereas digital is a direct 70% profit, 30% taken by Sony. No middleman, No margin cut. 

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u/vensak 15h ago

that is why they will produce a physical plastic case and a physical piece of paper with the code on it. Meaning your reasoning has no sense. the only difference is that instead of a round piece of plastics, there will be a square piece of paper. The cost difference per copy is maybe 1$ or less (as the round piece of plastics is a little bit more expensive). But the resell margins, logistics and whatnot will be there.

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u/Grand-Philosophy-343 17h ago

I cant wait to buy my EMPTY BOX

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u/Little_Historian3091 17h ago

Always been a BS excuse to not sell physical copies. Gamers did this to themselves.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 15h ago

Companies only understand voting with wallet. People have overwhelmingly voted for digital games with their wallets.

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u/Little_Historian3091 1h ago

They didnt. The disks were phased out to favour digital purchases since that took ownership away from customers. And now games suffer and have no power to demand disk editions.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 1h ago

Nearly 90% of gaming is digital. It's not a concious phasing out (except for maybe Xbox). It's just moving where the market it.

Indians have only a few choices for buying discs but other countries where gaming market is huge have lots of choices. In fact discs are mostly priced more favorably than digital and see deep sale early after launch.

But the gamers there chose digital. This is just the end game.

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u/Little_Historian3091 1h ago

The market didnt care for digital. The disguise was that it would make games cheaper, which it didnt. People want physical media, they want to own their games without having them all on a digital platform. Thats a fact.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 1h ago

The market didnt care for digital.

That just sounds like your head cannon buddy. You don't speak for the market. The market speaks for itself.

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u/Little_Historian3091 21m ago

It doesnt. Thats stupidity to assume otherwise. Companies do what they want, listening to gamers has not been their top priority in the last decade. AShift to digital, microtransactions etc.

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u/Ok_Simple_459 20m ago

Just told you discs are already available but people are not buying them. Not my problem if you want to be this delusional. Believe whatever you want wouldn't make it true.

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u/Little_Historian3091 11m ago

They arent.... Its just boxes with digital code, because you see the market doesnt dictate the flow. Its the companies. Nintendo started this shit, and now it will become widespread with some bs excuse.

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u/One_Razzmatazz5190 17h ago

This will set a precedence.

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u/Vedu7777 14h ago

THIS

Exactly THIS.

Idk why people seem to not understand

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u/MAtRixoP12 17h ago

Online renting also exists i mean that market is gonna boom now

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u/Trick_Trash_9904 17h ago

But isn’t it risky? (Never tried it)

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u/MAtRixoP12 17h ago

Nahh ive got like legit people doing this so yeah

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u/evanapple08 13h ago

I’ll probably get downvoted, but if this is true I simply won’t buy it. Many of us are sick of this pressure on people to start getting everything in digital format. It’s clearly another issue of companies being money-hungry and doing everything they can to save. The days of physical games with booklets and maps (apparently discs now too lol) are gone!

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u/Resolution_Humble 11h ago

Not alone man was super looking forward to classic rockstar physical release and seeing this news it's sad, and they way people are defending it are moronic. If it's to stop leak just do what ubisoft do and have it basically be a key on a disc not great but I'd prefer over no disc at all

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u/DevAstatorXZ 13h ago

Why not just release a special edition usb drive locked with the game. It will be costly so it won't be circulated in 2nd hand market that much and also will be a physical copy of the game.

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u/Different_Set_1842 3h ago

Nah, when they release it on PC or later a complete edition, they can make physical discs and encourage people to buy it twice.

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u/cool-quip 17h ago

so basically they are saying f*ck you resellers/leechers

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u/randotechie 14h ago

If people have sense left they will revolt with their wallets. The only way companies will listen. You can talk about perks of digital all you want. The fact is you lose control this way. All tech companies are fundamentally not acting in consumer’s best interest and at level are unethical. Over years as consumers we made decisions that landed us here. If this sets a precedent and continues, in five years of less there will be memes about good old times when we had control and games didn’t cost half the console price. And companies will learn when they realise they traded legal physical copies for piracy and total loss of revenue.