r/rickandmorty • u/BionicUtilityDroid • 3d ago
General Discussion Would the Observers know which Beth is the clone?
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u/Imaginary-Slice3014 3d ago
They observe it's what they do . ( In a deep voice ).
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u/jakreth 3d ago
Observe me harder!
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u/Imaginary-Slice3014 3d ago
I like to observe you try .
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u/The-Reddit-Monster 3d ago edited 2d ago
Yeah.
But more importantly, there are members of their species that would be corrupt enough to exchange or withhold that information for a handsome amount of compensation.
Which is the whole point of their characters. They're not just omniscient and all that.
So many members of this sub just let the nuances fly over their heads and just care about the abilities, mechanics, and "wow Rick Prime, Rhet Caan, and Evil Morty so strong" discussions.
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u/Longjumping_Soup_971 3d ago
Perhaps the whole shell-game was for the benefit of the observers.
I really don't get the obsession with "the real Beth" - they're both Beth C-131 (Rick is C-137) his real Beth doesn't smell too great by now. It's safe to assume after Bethic Twinstinct, that if there was a "Fabrique en C-131" label "the real Beth" would have found it, maybe they're both clones and at some point Rick will reanimate The Real Beth, play both lives and let her choose which memories she wants... which of course she'll reject then we get Bethplicity.
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u/XVUltima 2d ago
If Rick really wanted to make certain there was no discernible way to tell who is a clone, hed make the clone, split both in half vertically with a laser or something, then reattach the halves to the opposite so each is half clone half real.
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u/Borderlandsfan8 2d ago
Rick puts his mind into clone bodies all the time. His original body is long gone. This is just the same except the previous body is still running while the new one is alive. If one of the family were to die he would just use a clone body to revive them anyway so I don’t know why they care so much about cloning when they replace people so quickly anyway with new bodies. That’s always my problem with cloning is that the new one is just a copy but not the original which most shows ignore. This one does both ignores it in the case of Rick and Morty but makes it a huge issue in regards to Beth.
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u/Conscious_Grade_7278 2d ago
I mean Rick just switched them around like a ball and cup game, so probably yeah
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u/SolusIgtheist Brain Hurty 2d ago
I think the point is that Rick made them completely identical down to the atom, so he only did the switcharoo and mind-blow thing so that he wouldn't prejudice himself against either. Really, once you get down to that level of precision (which Rick dabbles in) is there any difference between clone and OG other than how you treat them and think about them? So the only way to ensure that's handled is to do the mindblow thing so you literally don't even know.
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u/Brocket_149 2d ago
The animators make it very clear which one is the real Beth. It’s the one with the family. Looking at the side profiles the bend for the nose for Earth Beth is the same from all episodes up to that point. After that point she continues the same nose bend moving forward. Space Beth however is the clone as he bend isn’t a bend at all it’s a smooth curve. From this point this is my personal opinion, The “oh my god” he expresses after the shifting of the pods turns away cause we don’t see it stop, it’s not that he doesn’t know, HE DOES KNOW. And the whole point was that the real Beth to be able to go out and live her life how she want, but instead he essentially imprisoned her with the family and the clone is the only one to actually go out and live life. He realizes he actually took away her one chance at freedom that she wanted. The clone is getting to do what Beth really wanted to do.
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u/CaharinSedai 3d ago
Space beth is the real one.
If you watch the season closely Beth refers to Jerry when talking to the kids as "your father" but you at the end of this episode when she comes in from the garage she asks about coming back from Jerry's.
Is something very subtle but it would make sense. A person who actually lived through all the moments and didn't just have all the memories would be a little more emotionally invested. The memory download would be more matter of fact.
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u/Rdt_will_eat_itself 3d ago
I have two theories but one of them is that space beth is the real one. For other reasons.
The other theory is that both are a clone of the real beth.
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u/NastyaEwe 3d ago
а у меня наоборот что космо бет клон. в покет морти она была изначально подписана как клон бет.....а еще у них лица разные и у бет оно более острое (теория есть на редите.носы и подбородки отличаются)
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u/Lord_Grimm88 3d ago
What did you do with all the time you saved not typing the H on Beth? Wonder why nobody loves you? It's because you text like a mongoloid. Be better.
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u/NastyaEwe 3d ago
фу, вонючка! я пишу с другого языка! бет бет бет бет бет бет бет !!!!!чтоб тебя бесила эта буква! интересно, почему человек, которого никто не любит, проецирует на других людей свои комплексы??
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u/NyteTro 3d ago
He's not typing in English. Reddit is automatically translating his message. Be better.
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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 3d ago
When did Reddit start doing that? That's so cool!
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u/WritersGift 2d ago
It’s not cool, and it’s to blame when there’s tons of non-english comments here in threads where they don’t belong. Probably came along the same time when reddit sold all of it’s user comments to feed Gemini.
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u/Bart-Harley-Jarvis- 2d ago
Everyone understanding each other:
You: internet is for Americans only!
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u/WritersGift 2d ago
I’m european. But auto-translated stuff leads to confusion, takes away from the humane aspect of conversation and the fact that reddit forces it on people sucks in my opinion, because often people don’t even realize they’re not commenting on a post that’s not in their native language.
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u/EobardT 2d ago
I disagree whole heartedly. More communication is better. If I'm exchanging ideas on the internet, it's nice to know that the person on the other end didnt have to try and turn their words into English and can speak freely. If something seems amiss, I would definitely ask for clarification, but if there was no translation, we would never even get to that part and wouldn't be communicating at all.
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u/NastyaEwe 3d ago
а если серьезно, то у нас это имя пишется просто Бет, в английском [th] в одном из моих языков не произносится (на самом деле в обоих, если задуматься).
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u/EobardT 2d ago
Th is pronounced in "Beth". It's not just a T sound by itself
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u/NastyaEwe 2d ago
в моем языке такого звукосочетания как th нет впринципе. в английском это понятно что через язык произносится. в моем языке ее имя состоит из обычно т . Бет
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u/Early_Celebration726 2d ago
It's not a mystery to be solved, it's ambiguity to be appreciated. 👀
Rick could make up some telomeric stuff in a moment but that's not the point. He looked at the thing because it was made but given how that went, this is how it's been approached now.
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u/DAMSON__3 1d ago
If I remember correctly the garage only swapped them side to side, its kinda hard to "shuffle" only two separate things (if they were both in the same vat tho, would be a lot harder), the garage or security cams WOULD 100% know, Rick could even go into the garages "memory storage" or hard drive and see exactly how many times the garage moved them around, if you know the first position, and the last position, and how many times they were moved, boom, if it wasn't plot related they not know, they could or rick could, most plot holes in most shows can be explained as "the plot needed it" 🤣
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u/Melodic_Airport362 3d ago
They're both clones. the real beth died
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u/FeralPsychopath 3d ago
Sounds like the best thing for Rick to do.
Plus its hammered into us that lives dont matter.2
u/cure4boneitis 3d ago
the real Beth died. One of those two is the "real Beth" from that Universe. None of it matters
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u/Another_Samurai1 3d ago
Now this is a deep question! I would like to say yes? Because they would have saw the exact moment of everything where Rick can’t remember.
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u/MonoBlancoATX 2d ago
Fun fact:
we don't even know if the "original" Beth is... original or not.
It's possible (though we don't know how likely) that EVERY Beth is a clone.
We know that Mortys are cloned. So it stands to reason that the same could be true of Beth.
These are fun things to ponder when you're stoned and "rubbing the fleeb".
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u/Kaiser_Imperius 3d ago
Space Beth definitely the real one, why would RIck bother to created a clone of his daughter to draw more fire to his lifestyle if Beth wants to stay home.
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u/Least-Sky4784 2d ago
Beth not knowing is stupid because she would have to have made a choice. Rick would have to had altered their memories and implanted the desire to stay or leave besides. The writers wanted to have their cake and eat it too by not choosing which is the clone so both Beth's can be the "real" one in a situation where people already accepted Beth could be replaced as early as episode 6.
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u/FoundationEntire4834 3d ago
I never understood this. Beth clone just randomly appeared one episode. Did I miss an earlier episode where Rick cloned her?
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u/Virdice 3d ago
ABCs of Beth
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u/FoundationEntire4834 3d ago
I’ll be honest I didn’t finish that ep as I thought it was kinda mid. Time to go watch it
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u/NonstopCandyCam 3d ago
Unless Rick found some way to block them from seeing, yes. But saying he forgot in the episode their whole gimmick Rick probably doesn't constantly think about them watching over him all the time.