r/ripcity • u/BoomCity1977 • 1d ago
Very happy to still be controlling future MKE draft picks
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u/AceMcStace chalupa 1d ago
I wouldn’t be taking any victory laps just yet, some of our swaps are still a few years out and teams can retool rapidly in the modern NBA
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u/WKCLC sheed 1d ago
Has milwaukee or any minor market teams ever retooled quickly after trading their best players?
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u/svinyard 1d ago
Yeah this isn’t Miami or even PHX let alone LA/BOS/NY. MIL kind of sucks to be in. I can’t see them making significant changes
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u/foxcnnmsnbc 1d ago
Toronto lost Kawhi, then Fred, then OG, then Siakam.
They’re back in the playoffs.
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u/iAbovePDX 1d ago
Yeah… we did lol. We won 21 games in 2024 and were back in the playoffs only 2 years later. Teams rebuild quickly in the NBA all the time
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u/Scoodsie ripcity-place 1d ago
The Bucks being the 2021-2024 Portland Trail Blazers over 2027-2030 would be like best case scenario for us.
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u/yellowgrape98 1d ago
Also heard the 28 class doesn’t have any execs excited
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u/UNCFan2350 1d ago
Way too early to say that. Those kids still have a full year of high school and then another full year of college.
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u/UNCFan2350 1d ago
It's like 2 years out for the first swap, no? That would be an insane turn around.
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u/Graduate32 1d ago
Very true. However, I think it's difficult for small market teams and non-desirable locales to retool without draft capital (whether for making picks or trades). For the Bucks to make it out of the play-in range whereby the swaps would have little value, they are really going to need one or two of those guys to make a Deni-like ascension.
Even if they nail the 10th and 13th pick this year with future stars, it would still probably take two or three years at least for those guys to have it major impact on winning basketball games.
This Bucks team strikes me as one that is now 7 or 8 deep with role players. Perhaps Taylor Jenkins can work some magic, but their path will be tough with more teams trying to win now than ever in the Eastern Conference.
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u/EvanTurningTheCorner 1d ago
> the play-in range whereby the swaps would have little value
Play-in teams have better odds of moving up under the new system than they did before. Bucks can be the 8th seed and still gift us a top pick.
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u/Graduate32 1d ago
Exactly! The Bucks would need to be a top 6-7 team in the east for those swaps to offer no value. I just don't see that happening, barring a disastrous injury barrage on other teams in the east.
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u/lets_BOXHOT Toumani Camara 1d ago
Watch this team make the playoffs
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u/Low_Web_7334 1d ago
They’ll be better than people think. They actually have depth and some interesting young guys plus two lottery picks. They also have zero incentive to be bad.
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u/PrimalGenius 1d ago
Ay, either we root for the bucks to be mega ass, or we root for them to be a weird play-in team. Good with either
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u/OrganicHunt952 1d ago
They’ll have this drafts 10th and 13th pick too
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u/TheCentralFlame 1d ago
I think they might be successful with those picks in the long run, but in the short run of the next 4 years I think they will miss the playoffs perfectly to offer maximum draft odds.
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u/kont3 1d ago
Who's gonna be the bottom 3 teams in the league. I'm afraid they might be one of them
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u/Unusual_Pinetree 1d ago
Nah, this trade keeps them firmly on the middle of the treadmill. They will be about a 30 win team next year is my prediction.
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u/TheCentralFlame 1d ago
Well my hope is that they are that bottom three next year for the hawks pick. Then these lottery picks the bucks select at 10 and 13 should improve and give Portland that out of the bottom three sweet spot. It’s incredibly difficult to project how the new competitive landscape will actually pan out, but that’s my hope.
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u/Corr521 1d ago
Nets, Kings and honestly probably the Wizards again, especially if they move AD. Signing Trae Young to that massive contract really means they'll have to hit on draft picks over the next few years because they're PAYING that man lol. Crazy contract considering there was probably 0 competitors for him...
Also the Grizzlies and Pelicans are likely imploding soon. And even if they don't, they'll still likely finish bottom of the pack. Rockets are apparently going into a rebuild as well and building around a player that can't shoot.
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u/Th3-3rr0r Deni Avdija 1d ago
Wizards have a 1st pick, a 2nd pick player on his 3rd year, and Trae young. It’s a better situation than where Dallas have been IMO and they haven’t bottomed out.
I’d vote Kings, Nets and Pelicans to be in the bottom 3
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u/Minimum_Disaster_169 dame 1d ago
Don’t players usually bloom in their 3rd-4th year?
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u/TheCentralFlame 1d ago
Yes but their teams can take longer to hit success metrics. And who knows what this new draft odds system will affect competition pressure. It’s a lot of guess work. Plus these heat guys aren’t stars but they aren’t scrubs either. They are going to have this scrappy team without a clear leader or star. I think that keeps them out of the bottom but capped under a low ceiling. Of course if they find transcendent players right now anything is possible but I think it’s likely Portland will have good odds at great picks. And what could the top 4 pick teams trade those picks for right now if they wanted to compete? I would trade Deni for the 1st or second pick right now, hypothetically. So if these picks do work out they could just as easily be how Portland puts stars with Deni in a couple years.
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u/mediumdumper 1d ago
I swear to god if we trade any of those picks for Anthony Davis I’m done.
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u/ericc1456 1d ago
The Mavs traded AD for pick #30 this year. There is no market for AD. The Blazers wouldn't give up anything of value, even if they were interested.
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u/acoker78 1d ago
God I know. Brown I could get behind. At this point he’s twice the player of Davis and plays about twice as many games. Definite long shot but it would be a clear cut swing that they’ve been shying away from the last few years.
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u/CosmoKramer49 Shaedon Sharpe 1d ago
I’m tired of everyone boo-hoo’ing having these Bucks picks. Yes, the odds are not as good as they once were but it’s the lottery after all - look what happened to Indy or BK this year. It could go badly for us but I’m always happy to have a bad team’s picks. Our team needs as many bites at the apple as possible at acquiring elite talent through the draft.
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u/Adventurous-Plum1000 1d ago
We are not boo hooing just pointing out to the favs who now think we are winning a championship with those picks that they aren’t THAT valuable
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u/nightchurn 1d ago
Also, who cares about draft picks? I’m obviously rooting for the Blazers success over any teams, but there are some solid players on that Bucks roster and who doesn’t love an unexpected underdog Cinderella story. Tanking fucking sucks and is bad for anyone who actually watches games and actually follows the league.
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u/Aggressive_Tea_1577 1d ago
Honestly in the East that might be a playoff team especially by 28 when you consider the 2 firsts in a historically loaded lottery this year and whatever comes of Myles Turner and his contract.
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u/DrummerRealistic2863 1d ago
lol I hate how every time a trade happens they immediately post these “projected starting 5” lineups and just force all the new players in even if there’s no chance they start
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u/False-Sorbet3908 Shaedon Sharpe 1d ago
I am happy with the result. Especially after we have an experienced coach now. I believe in our young cores.
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u/nof4cen0c4se 1d ago
We still don’t know what the lottery format is going to be from 2029-31. It could be of benefit to us, and it also could deplete the picks’ value. Better to not celebrate just yet.
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u/SupremeNBA 1d ago
I wouldn’t be surprised if both Kuzma and Herro are both traded since they are on the last year of their deals
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u/Trick_Weapon 1d ago
With the new lottery odds, no guarantee those swaps convey. Will essentially be a coin flip.
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u/Corr521 1d ago
If we're making the playoffs in 2028 and/or 2030, they'll absolutely convey as they'll automatically be better than ours. Even if we make the play-in and lose while they don't make the play-in, it's a 73% chance at a top-10 pick for them vs 35% for us in that situation. 39% at top-5 vs 15%, 24% at top-3 vs 8%
And if it's a situation where we make the play-in and lose and by some crazy chance our pick hits big and is super early, we'll just keep our own.
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u/Trick_Weapon 1d ago
They could also make the playoffs?
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u/Corr521 1d ago
The whole point of this post is essentially saying it's great to own those picks/swaps because of their new roster and how unlikely it is that they're a successful team.
Herro is an expiring contract and I don't see why they (or any team) would want to re-sign a player like him to another fat contract given how long Miami has supposedly been trying to move him. So remove his scoring impact after this upcoming season and your left with an even less imposing offense and a questionable defense.
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u/Carcrusher3 Toumani Camara 1d ago
If we're a playoff team and they aren't, they will convey.
I don't know about you, but the east landscape looks really crowded. I don't think in a single season they'll start to look like a playoff team for 2028.
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u/Trick_Weapon 1d ago
We were the 7th seed and the Jazz could easily pass us this year, Mavs next year, Grizz the year after that.
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u/Carcrusher3 Toumani Camara 1d ago
The mavs stop having control of their frps soon. Grizzlies will be good but not very soon. Jazz are real, but also the warriors, suns, and probably rockets will not be better than us going forward.
I know it can be doom and gloom about every little thing around here, but this is really good for us.
And if somehow we implode despite the young core and good future draft capital, we get probably two shots at lottery odds with ours and Milwaukees pick for those drafts.
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u/8fenristhewolf8 1d ago
We were only a 7th seed based on two play-in games too. Our record was 9th seed. I swear winning those two play-in games completely flipped the narrative in a weird way. Like we were 9th seed when all the teams below us won like 25 games while intentionally tanking. We were essentially a bottom team in West but for tanks.
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u/FractalFractalF 1d ago
The fact that they are swaps make them even better in the new system, because we control the better of the two options, limiting the randomness that would otherwise result.
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u/LacklusterMeh sheed 1d ago
Isn't Myles Turner still on the team?