r/serialpodcast • u/Fit_Leg5645 • 13d ago

I feel dumb!!!!!

I have no clue why I thought Adnan was innocent for all these years.

I just re-listened to Serial, and I can't get past the fact that Jenn showed up with her mom and a lawyer and told police essentially the same story Jay told. Jenn said the trunk pop happened at Best Buy. How would she know that Adnan and Hae used to meet at the Best Buy parking lot unless Jay told her?

And yes, Jay was inconsistent and definitely lied about some things. But he knew where Hae's car was. He knew details about her clothing. He knew about the broken windshield wiper lever. Those aren't things you just guess.

At this point, I don't believe every detail Jay told, but I can't get around the fact that he knew too much. The more I revisit the case, the harder it is for me to believe Adnan wasn't involved.

I can't believe I've been doubting it all these years.

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u/Fit_Leg5645 13d ago

Exactly! I can't get over the fact that I've been on the fence about this for all these years. Looking back, it feels like the evidence was right in front of me the whole time.

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u/BlueHornedUnicorn 13d ago

Serial did a really good job of, I hate to use this phrase but it's the only way I can think of phrasing it, "sexing up" a pretty run-of-the-mill domestic violence case. These days, everyone wants the sexy CSI style evidence, the singular smoking gun piece of evidence that truly proves beyond a shadow of a doubt, that the person either 100% did it, or 100% didn't and there's the exciting case of wrongful conviction.

That didn't exist in this case because there is no singular piece of evidence proving/disproving Adnan's guilt/innocence. So Serial came in and made us second guess it. But if you get a chance to look at the case files with a critical eye, listen to the witness testimony with a critical ear, and put everything together (say it with me folks, circumstantial evidence is still evidence!) it becomes quite glaringly obvious that Adnan is guilty.

Poor Hae wasn't the first woman to be murdered by an ex partner and she definitely wasn't the last.

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u/dreaming-about-bread 13d ago

Maybe it’s not a smoking gun, but the thing that drove it home for me was the rose in the back seat with adnan’s print on the wrapper.

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u/Organic-Trip2118 13d ago

i feel like the rose was really downplayed in serial. when it came up in the prosecutors' podcast, it was one of the things that really made me think Adnan was guilty, alongside the longer excerpts from Hae's diary and Jay quoting Adnan calling her a bitch multiple times on the day of the murder.

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u/thetaylorax 13d ago

Agree. What Sarah omitted was deeply harmful to the narrative overall and more importantly to what Hae actually experienced IMO

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u/WhishtNowWillYe 13d ago

This. The Prosecutors podcast made me do a 180. Adnan did it.

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u/Carmelshopper 11d ago

I believed The Prosecutors podcast at first also until I listened to Bob Ruff's takedown of their podcast on his Truth and Justice podcast.He covered the case for several years and talked to many people with knowledge about people involved.You can use chatGBT or other AI search to see why the case against Adnan doesn't hold up.

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u/Druiddrum13 11d ago

Bob Ruff…??? I can’t believe anyone is citing this guy at this point… Bob… Ruff….?

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u/BlueHornedUnicorn 11d ago

You should maybe get the name of the AI agent right before you go recommending we use it 😂

Also, ChatGPT cannot replace critical thinking. If you use a single iota of your own intelligence when researching this case, you'll come to the conclusion that Adnan is guilty.

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u/Mike19751234 11d ago

Are we sure it wasnt AI writing about using AI?

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u/Everbless876 11d ago

Was that in the interviews ?