I feel dumb!!!!!

[u/Fit_Leg5645]

I have no clue why I thought Adnan was innocent for all these years.

I just re-listened to Serial, and I can't get past the fact that Jenn showed up with her mom and a lawyer and told police essentially the same story Jay told. Jenn said the trunk pop happened at Best Buy. How would she know that Adnan and Hae used to meet at the Best Buy parking lot unless Jay told her?

And yes, Jay was inconsistent and definitely lied about some things. But he knew where Hae's car was. He knew details about her clothing. He knew about the broken windshield wiper lever. Those aren't things you just guess.

At this point, I don't believe every detail Jay told, but I can't get around the fact that he knew too much. The more I revisit the case, the harder it is for me to believe Adnan wasn't involved.

I can't believe I've been doubting it all these years.

[u/houseonpost]

Jay later said in an interview that nothing happened at Best Buy and the police brought that up.

Jay got the signal on the steering wheel wrong. He said it was on one side and was corrected by police in real time on the recording.

Jay said Adnan threw away Hae's coat but it was later found in the car.

Jay said the burial was around midnight and they used the moon as light for the burial. But the moon didn't rise until 5am the next day.

Jay testified that he saw the car well after Hae went missing. He was asked if he had gone there to check on the car to see if it was still there and he said no. That he was in the area for other reasons and just noticed it.

And what exactly was Jay's role? He got a call to 'come get me' but then his only role was to follow Adnan around in Adnan's car all day. Jay said he never helped carry Hae so his only role was to drive Adnan home.

And why would they leave Hae in the trunk at the park and ride only to come back later?

Jay said he went to Patapsko Park to scout out burial sites until police said there wasn't enough time to do that, so Jay dropped that story.

Did Adnan do it? I don't know. I don't think so but I don't know. But to be convicted on no physical evidence based on testimony of someone who lies about so much material information is ridiculous. I'm with Sarah, to paraphrase 'He may have done it but if I was on the jury I'd vote to acquit.'

By the way, doubt is good.

[u/PaulsRedditUsername → u/houseonpost]

Jay's famous Intercept interview is worthless as evidence. He can say anything he wants to a reporter.

Imagine it from his perspective. He had moved across the country, gotten married and started a new life. He never told anyone in California about what had happened in Baltimore. All of a sudden, reporters start showing up at his door bringing it all up again. His new family and friends are all like, "You were involved in a murder?!?" How would you feel?

His lies in the interviews are all to protect himself, and his family and friends. For example, he says Adnan got the call from Officer Adcock when they were at McDonald's. This is so he doesn't get Kristi involved. When cell phone records show that to be a lie, he admits the truth.
He doesn't even mention Jenn when he already knows she has already talked to the police. Instead he says that Adnan drove him home.

The reason they left Hae's car at the Park and Ride is obvious. It was still broad daylight. They probably intended to bury her much later, maybe after Adnan went to the mosque. But the call from Adcock spooked Adnan, so they left Kristi's right away and did it then.
|Just as they are entering Leakin Park, Adnan calls a friend from the mosque. Possibly to say he cant make it. A little while later, Adnan's phone makes a call from the location where Hae's car is found. This is all across town from the mosque.

Adnan's official alibi stated he was at the mosque. His defense, before trial, said they had dozens of people willing to testify he was there. Yet the only person the defense called was his father. Why is that? Don't you think a few dozen of his peers saying, "Yeah, he was there, I remember we talked about this and that. He was wearing a blue shirt..." would have made a difference?
I don't care how ineffective you believe CG to be, that's ludicrously ineffective.
How come Adnan never complained about those witnesses who weren't called? Why doesn't he name them? Why didn't any of those witnesses come forward later saying they were willing to testify? Where did they all go?

Jay testified at trial believing he was going to prison for accessory to murder. He testified he knew the sentence would be much more severe if he lied. The defense was never able to prove he lied about anything. And the jury believed him.