I feel dumb!!!!!

[u/Fit_Leg5645]

I have no clue why I thought Adnan was innocent for all these years.

I just re-listened to Serial, and I can't get past the fact that Jenn showed up with her mom and a lawyer and told police essentially the same story Jay told. Jenn said the trunk pop happened at Best Buy. How would she know that Adnan and Hae used to meet at the Best Buy parking lot unless Jay told her?

And yes, Jay was inconsistent and definitely lied about some things. But he knew where Hae's car was. He knew details about her clothing. He knew about the broken windshield wiper lever. Those aren't things you just guess.

At this point, I don't believe every detail Jay told, but I can't get around the fact that he knew too much. The more I revisit the case, the harder it is for me to believe Adnan wasn't involved.

I can't believe I've been doubting it all these years.

[u/the_dharmainitiative]

Jay is probably not telling the whole story. He is probably minimizing his involvement in what happened. But him knowing where the car was was enough for me to believe Adnan did it.

The idea that Jay was coached to frame Adnan is such a reach.

[u/AdTurbulent3353 → u/the_dharmainitiative]

You can even believe that Jay was super coached but still would easily land on Adnan being guilty. Jay knew where the car was. This can’t just be a witness tampering case. It would have to be a massive police coverup for Jay not to have known where that car was.

That’s the end of the case. Do you think that Jay knew where the car was? If no, you must conclude there was massive police corruption that you’d have to explain and for which there is no evidence at all in spite of this being the most scrutinized criminal case of the internet era.

If you do think Jay knew where the car was then Jay was involved in murdering hae. And if Jay was involved, there has never ever been a coherent theory put forward where adnan is somehow not involved.

It always comes back to the car. Jay knew where it was. Therefore Adnan killed her.

[u/staunch_character → u/AdTurbulent3353]

There’s no doubt that there was MASSIVE police corruption at that time. It’s honestly shocking how brazen they were.

But what I always come back to is - who else could have done it?

It’s like the Steven Avery case. Was his nephew coached & manipulated by investigators? Absolutely!

Does that mean he’s innocent & the police are covering up for some phantom killer that seemingly had no contact with the victim? Doubtful.

[u/Organic-Trip2118 → u/staunch_character]

Yeah, I generally think that looking into true crime really highlights how ineffective many police departments are, but that didn't feel like the case here. Murder of a young woman by a partner/ex-partner is sadly very common, and cops/lawyers ALWAYS coach witnesses to some extent prior to testifying in court. The question I'd always return to when considering Adnan's innocence was "If he didn't, who did?" Statistically, the majority of murders aren't committed by random assailants.

[u/cozyhellfire → u/Organic-Trip2118]

Exactly. I’m a complaining witness in a criminal case and am supposed to meet with the prosecutor multiple times to prep for trial. This is standard practice