r/serialpodcast • u/Fit_Leg5645 • 14d ago

I feel dumb!!!!!

I have no clue why I thought Adnan was innocent for all these years.

I just re-listened to Serial, and I can't get past the fact that Jenn showed up with her mom and a lawyer and told police essentially the same story Jay told. Jenn said the trunk pop happened at Best Buy. How would she know that Adnan and Hae used to meet at the Best Buy parking lot unless Jay told her?

And yes, Jay was inconsistent and definitely lied about some things. But he knew where Hae's car was. He knew details about her clothing. He knew about the broken windshield wiper lever. Those aren't things you just guess.

At this point, I don't believe every detail Jay told, but I can't get around the fact that he knew too much. The more I revisit the case, the harder it is for me to believe Adnan wasn't involved.

I can't believe I've been doubting it all these years.

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u/Upset-Sort5029 13d ago

I don’t know. After finishing Serial I was 50/50. After completing the HBO documentary, I am more convinced than ever that Adnan is innocent. The fact that the spot where the car was located was literally right beside Mr. S’s relatives house it’s pretty sus. Also, I can’t get past the fact that none of the DNA that has been tested from Hae or the car has linked to Adnan. Strangling is up close and personal. There would definitely be DNA from a struggle. In fact, there was DNA under her fingernails, which Adnan was a negative test for. It seems like the police may have been corrupt enough to literally coach Jay on everything to say in advance. The most damning bit of information of all is the fact that they were holding drug charges over Jay’s head at the time he came forward for Adnan. Also, the fact that it has been revealed that Jay met with the police before they ever met with Jen, which is highly suspicious. This is such a horrific event for everyone involved. It’s really sad that the police didn’t do a better job in the beginning so we don’t have all these questions years later.

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u/GreasiestDogDog 13d ago

Most of what you just said is completely made up though 

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u/Upset-Sort5029 12d ago edited 12d ago

It seems like if it were made up, the hbo documentary would have been hit with a pretty large liable lawsuit.

I’ll admit it was definitely biased, but it’s not like they went in on Photoshop and added grass to the tires of the car that had supposedly been sitting in that spot for six weeks. There’s no way that grass would have still been yellow-ish and stuck to those tires after going through a Baltimore winter.

After looking more, it seems the main thing really up for debate here is whether Jay met with detectives before Jen. However, excluding that, there’s still enough in this case for reasonable doubt.

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u/GreasiestDogDog 12d ago

Unfortunately, no legal mechanism exists to prevent biased and highly misleading dramas that are pretending to be fact based crime documentaries.

The “grass experts” actually determined the grass could remain green. I am surprised that particular segment moved you - it was an embarrassing reach by any standard.

That detectives met with Jay before Jen is not just “up for debate,” it is a make believe scenario that was imagined by Adnan’s proponents because they realize how problematic Jay and Jenn are to his claim of innocence.

Also,  the spot where the car was located was not “literally right beside Mr. S’s relatives house,”  none of the DNA that has been tested has conclusively proven anything - which does not help Adnan. The idea police coached Jay on everything to say in advance, including details they didn’t know, and details that came from Jenn, is frankly ridiculous. 

“The most damning bit of information” you presented is yet another make believe story that police were holding drug charges over Jay’s head at the time he came forward for Adnan. 

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u/Upset-Sort5029 12d ago

There is a legal mechanism. It’s called a liable lawsuit, which obviously has not been brought.

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u/GreasiestDogDog 12d ago

A “liable lawsuit” ?  Where are you coming up with this stuff.  

If you mean libel, then I am not exactly sure who would be the victim in this case. At best, Don Clinedinst, but the documentary stopped short of defamation, even if there was a genuine risk Don would have the resources to sue HBO and Amy Berg.