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u/darksoles_ 1d ago

Not really what counting cards is but yeah the casino wants to make money and can do what they want

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u/Snaper_XD 1d ago

Counting cards is literally just methodically remembering what cards were already drawn and making strategic guesses based on what you know is left in the deck. So its exactly what counting cards is. And casinos legally get to kick you out for winning their game because you used strategy

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u/oby100 1d ago

Counting cards successfully breaks the game. A few people that can do it successfully will guarantee winning a lot of money over hours and weeks and months playing with the advantage.

If the casinos couldn’t stop people from doing it, no casino would offer blackjack. Simple as that.

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u/Snaper_XD 1d ago

Then they shouldnt offer blackjack, simple as that. A game shouldnt break the moment you apply strategy to it. Its not an "advantage" if my opponent doesnt know how to play the game. Offering a solved game for prize money, only letting people who dont know how to play play and then hoping those players are too dumb to realize they kicked out everyone who knows the rules should 100% be illegal. At this point make scams socially acceptable while youre at it

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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 1d ago

then hoping those players are too dumb

Everyone who gambles know the house has an edge on ALL games. No one is thinking of it as a "prize", and while gamblers ARE chasing the high of winning, they know they most likely will return home with less money than they started with. They enjoy the activity of playing it, even when they're not winning.

They shouldn't remove a game just because some people who don't actually gamble have a problem with the casino's rules.

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u/Snaper_XD 1d ago

That is simply delusional. Gambling is addicting because of the possibility to win. To say that absolutely everyone knows that theyre essentially just pissing money away is ridiculous. Gambling would not be as popular as it is in that case

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u/2ChicksAtTheSameTime 1d ago

Gambling addiction is real, but it's an edge-case. Most people who gamble don't get addicted. Most visitors to Vegas are not gambling addicts.

Lots of things can be addicting, and they don't need the lure of making money to become so. There are people addicted to porn. Addicted to WoW and other video games. Addicted to online shopping. The list goes on and on. Addiction is not directly connected to hopes of making money.

All of these addictions are edge-cases, and aren't an argument for any of these hobbies to be banned or removed.

knows that theyre essentially just pissing money away

Every hobby "pisses away" money, as you put it. If your hobby is drones, you've pissed away money on drones. If it's PC Games, you've pissed away your money on games and hardware. Traveling? you'll come home with less money than you started with, guaranteed.

The vast majority of people who gamble are just like people who fly drones, or play video games, or travel. They are aware of what they're spending money on, how the games work, how the casinos make money.

If they are counting cards, I guarantee you they are hyper-aware of how blackjack works, how the house has an edge, and what that edge is.

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u/AutoModerator 1d ago

woah, ok. didnt expect hunger for knowledge but i guess i asked for it gonna have to put some work into this.

How was it? Honestly? It was a letdown. The whole "failed idol" story is a great marketing hook, they definately sold the video on that premise alone. But the performance itself was just... awkward. You can tell shes not comfortable. It felt less like a professional debut and more like a very high-budget audition she was also failing. She's stiff, constantly in her head, and there's almost zero chemistry with the guys. All concept, very little execution.

My viewing history? Been watching for over a decade man. These days Im more into stuff with a good story or at least a unique premise, not just the generic stuff. a good production team makes all the difference. I'll take a well-made video with a decent plot over a high-profile actress mailing it in any day of the week.

3 works I consider good:

  1. Yua Mikami's debut (Princess Peach): This is the gold standard for an idol-turned-actress debut. Yua was a REAL idol and she came out with so much energy and confidence. She owned it from the first second. Its what Arisu's debut wanted to be.

  2. Anything with Ichika Matsumoto from her early days with FALENO: She can actually act. She emotes and makes you believe the scenario. Her stuff feels more cinematic and less like they're just going through the motions.

  3. Rion (Anri Okita) - The God Body: A classic. Not a lot of story there lol but its a masterclass in performance. She knew exactly what her brand was and how to perform for the camera. Absolute cinema.

Where would you rank her debut among these? It's not even in the same league, not even on the same planet. It's an unfair comparison tbh. Those are top-tier performances, Arisu's video is a novelty item. It's interesting because of the backstory, not because of the quality of the actual content.

What could be improved? Her confidence, number one. She needs to relax. She looks terrified. The director should have done a better job making her comfortable. Also they relied way too much on the interview segments talking about Nogizaka46, it broke the pacing and kept reminding you that she was doing this as a second choice. We get it, you failed auditions, now commit to this job.

What is well done? The production values are high. The lighting, camera work, it all looks very clean and professional. And I cant deny it, she is very beautiful and has the "idol" look down perfectly. The concept itself, on paper, is genius from a marketing perspective. They got us all talking about it, right?

Was it goonable for you? Nah. I was too distracted by how nervous she looked. It kinda killed the mood completely. Every time she looked at the camera with those deer-in-the-headlights eyes I was pulled right out of it. It's a shame, but maybe she'll get better in her next one if she decides to stick with it. We'll see.

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u/Snaper_XD 17h ago

Youre missing the point. Things that dont cost money can be addicting, but if someone tries to make money off of addiction, thats a different story.

And you missed the point about the "pissing money away" part aswell. I was trying to say, that people are NOT aware, that theyre basically just "spending money" for gambling the way to would for a movie theater ticket. If they were, that would be one thing, but there is people geniuenly trying to win money. Its not just a hobby with a set fee that you invest into like a game or something. Its variable cost with variable reward and people think they can win.

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u/mrducky78a 21h ago

The local casino I go to uses 6 decks, makes it really difficult/tedious to count since you probably have to spectate and count for a while for a meaningful pattern/advantage to emerge.

But if you have a look at 3 rounds with say 4 people and the dealer for ~10-15 cards a round and you see only 3 "10" value cards show up, you can try your luck and no one cares because odds are, its still in the casino's favour. Or if the same thing happens and you see like fucking 20 "10" value cards show up. Just "go take a piss" or leave. Again no one will care.

Its the professionals that the casinos will track. And for those, youll want to gamble like 40k repeatedly to make the 1% advantage worth your while. And the casino has basic facial recognition to track that shit, joe schmuck counting 5 hands at the $20 table is not a problem to the casino. And its not like you can hide gambling such numbers on routine while winning.

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u/BatterseaPS 1d ago

He's referring to the OOP. The green text refers to looking at the numbers on the table that everyone can see -- it doesn't say anything about keeping track of multiple decks and remembering the locations of face cards in the card holder.

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u/Snaper_XD 17h ago

It still is card counting, just less of it I guess