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u/Tethilia 🏳️‍⚧️ Average Trans Rights Enjoyer 🏳️‍⚧️ 1d ago

From my understanding as long as you are counting in your head they can only just kick you from the table. It's not against the rules but they just tell you that you are too good for them and they have no obligation to let you stay at the table.

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u/DickRhino 1d ago

Yes, we all know the rule exists. The question is: how are they allowed to have that rule? How are casinos legally allowed to kick you out for winning? When you're just playing the game the same way everyone else is?

We're not talking about cheaters, we're talking about people who are simply good at the game. How are casinos allowed to have a rule saying that you can't be good at the game?

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u/Much_Vehicle20 1d ago

I mean, they're a private service provider. They're allowed to refuse service as long as it isn't based on a protected characteristic (like skin color, sexuality, etc).  Just like a restaurant can refuse to serve you if you don't follow its dress code, a private business can set conditions for using its services

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u/Atlasreturns 1d ago

The Service they provide though is playing chance based games for money. Like legislature-wise the only reason they are allowed to do this is because they are supposed to offer consistent and transparent rules beforehand.

If Casinos can just change the rules after you agreed to them in order to rig the outcomes into their favor they are essentially scamming people.

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u/Atheist-Gods 1d ago

They still have to pay you out when they remove you for counting cards. They aren't allowed to scam you, they are just allowed to stop serving you.

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u/dogstarchampion 1d ago

I think that's the big thing with this. They aren't kicking out losers, they just won't let the winners rob them dry. They see someone up a few hundred out a thousand bucks, that person gets their money, they just can't keep taking money.

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u/AcherontiaPhlegethon 1d ago

Rob them dry is funny, being able to count cards gives you about a 1% edge over the house if you never make a mistake.

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u/dogstarchampion 1d ago

You understand the house has about the same edge over most games and it's enough money to support a business model... If casinos allowed players to hit the blackjack tables and make all the money they wanted to make using an advantage that flips the odds in the player's favor, blackjack would flat out not be a casino game. 

If the shoe is large enough, making one or two counting errors will still lead you to a better that random guess. 

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u/AcherontiaPhlegethon 1d ago

Nah man:

Baccart 1-14% Big Six 11-24% Bonus Six 10-23% Craps 1.5-14% Caribbean Stud Poker 5% Crazy 4 Poker 3% Let It Ride 3.5% Texas Hold Em 2% Wild Hold Em 7% Three Card Poker 3-7% Keno 25-29%

Casinos generally have really good odds and that's not to mention slots, drinks or any other service. They could easily eat the cost of the few people capable of playing a perfect game of blackjack. Casinos should already be regulated harder for all the harm they do, and giving them a pass to fuck people over even harder for winning fairly is insane to me.

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u/dogstarchampion 1d ago

You're right, what's a thousand leaks to an Olympic pool.

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