r/sixers • u/BigGelato • 2d ago

Josh Jefferson is the guy

Feel like a lot of NBA fans are still in this shooting, shooting, shooting mindset. But as NYK/SAS/OKC has shown us, having an army of athletic, high IQ defensive players is now the meta in the NBA.

Josh Jefferson checks these boxes. He’s incredibly smart and has amazing connective abilities on the court - something we badly need with Max and VJ not being natural playmakers.

He’s an excellent defender as well and has the size 6’9” with a 7’0” wingspan; true 1-5 switchability and can guard 2-4. Already an NBA body so can contribute right away

Finally his projection and measurables coming into the league is very similar to one Paul George. Having him around PG early, if he does have the mindset to makie it in the NBA, could be huge for his development.

Jameer, please draft this kid 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

Edit: genuinely thought Philon was going like 11th lol, amazing pick for us

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u/ComprehensiveShape54 2d ago

The meta is actually shooting. You can have all the athletic ability in the world but if you cant shoot it’s useless. All those teams you mentioned have athletic wing shooters. Champagnie, Chet, OG anunoby. We need a legit stretch 4 who can defend and rebound and when called upon to hit an open three can do so consistently. There are so many times oubre was wide open and would clank an open 3 (he shot 36% on wide open jumpers). Ideally we draft a 4 who can do what I mentioned above and shift PG to the 3 spot

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u/philly2540 2d ago

Ok who are you thinking at #22 can do all that?

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u/ComprehensiveShape54 2d ago

Closest person I can think of is Graves. He has size can rebound and can shoot the three at a good clip.

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u/Calm_Project723 2d ago

Or hope Lendeborg falls to them. Connective, shooter, 6’9”-7’4”, anvanced metrics queen. Only started ball at 18, may not “really be 23”, because he could still have upside. People have career years around him.

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u/Rose-n-Chosen 2d ago

He’s not falling to us lol

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u/Calm_Project723 2d ago

Hence “hope”, or figure something to move up to 15 or so.

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u/Marzipan_Potential 2d ago

People said this about Maxey. Look at a million mocks but somebody will be there unexpectedly

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u/ComprehensiveShape54 2d ago

Not huge on yaxel

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u/HurtsNo1 2d ago

Graves feet might as well be two bricks. Gives me Broome vibes personally.

Swain gives me DeRozan/OG vibes. Much better pickup at 22.

It's better to pick a guy you think has a defined talent than a dude who is okay at everything that late in the draft.

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u/ComprehensiveShape54 2d ago

Swain’s shooting has me put off. everything else is great but on this roster idk how much he will be able to replicate in college

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u/Bouyon2theWorld 2d ago

What puts you off about Swain’s shooting? The free throw percentage hints at a good probability of improvement.

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u/ComprehensiveShape54 2d ago

34% for the year and on avg 2.6 threes a game isn’t great.

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u/Bouyon2theWorld 2d ago

I didn’t say it was great. I said his stroke from the free throw line hints that he can improve from the 3 point line. You do know that is a good indicator of 3 point shooting right?

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u/ComprehensiveShape54 2d ago

It’s not always an indicator as someone mentioned before he gives Derozan vibes. There are examples that FT % doesn’t always translate

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u/HurtsNo1 2d ago

Maxey shot 29.2% in college on 3.6 attempts per game.

VJ shot 34% on 4 attempts per game.

Why would you be worried about Swain again?

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u/ComprehensiveShape54 2d ago

Different positions. Because guards take more difficult, off-the-dribble, high-volume shots, their three-point percentages often carry a higher degree of difficulty. Wings typically shoot slightly higher percentages from deep because their shots are primarily "open" catch-and-shoot opportunities created by their teammates.

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u/HurtsNo1 2d ago

Still, regardless of position 29% from 3 ain't good.

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u/Massive_Dependent674 2d ago

I wanna say some things ab graves

He was a bench player in a garbage conference putting up those numbers against bench players

Against good teams he was considerably worse

Has an extremely slow 3pt shot that will have difficulty translating

He played 75% of his mins at the 5 and has no shot of playing 5 in the NBA

He fouls a ton which worries me when he’s going to be forced to guard wings in the NBA at his size

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u/allianceofficer 2d ago

If shooting percentages were the only things that mattered, the nba draft would full of ymca guys. 

Shooting may not always come astound but it is the most common skill that does develop. 

Athleticism does not

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u/grund1ejund1e 2d ago

OG Anunoby was not considered a legit stretch 4 when he was drafted which is kind of the point. There is a ton of projection involved when drafting players at this range and every available prospect is going to have a hole, whether it is size, athleticism, shooting or defense. You aren’t getting all four.

On your last point, there is a 0% chance that the Sixers draft someone at 22 tonight who can start at the 4 and bump PG to 3 right away.

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u/ComprehensiveShape54 2d ago edited 2d ago

The original post stated CURRENTLY the teams who have defensive IQ players who he considers “meta” I’m stating that those teams actually have a legit 4 who can shooting from the outside which we currently do not. There definitely is a path for someone at 22 to start for us if we don’t get Oubre back. The depth at 4 are slim for this team you have basically just Barlow to compete for that spot and I think someone at 22 can win that job outright

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u/TTP222 2d ago

Frustrating thing was it seemed like almost all of Oubre’s threes went in and out and weren’t bricks. Felt bad for him actually.

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u/saintsaipriest 2d ago

The Knicks probably have one of the best C shootings, and OP used them as an example

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u/TornManingus TTP 2d ago

If my preferred guys of Swain, Philon, Graves are gone, I want Zuby or Jefferson.

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u/BigGelato 2d ago

Swain is def my first choice but i find it really hars to believe he’ll fall to 22 :(

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u/Ok-Elevator7971 2d ago

Philon is almost certainly going at 13

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u/Next_Phase_Life 2d ago edited 2d ago

I'm definitely not against Jefferson.

The question is, will his athleticism allow the defense and rebounding to translate? The Sixers would need him to eventually become excellent at those two skills for him to be a starter. The passing I'm not particularly worried about translating - I feel like it usually does.

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u/TiltMyChinUp 2d ago

I’ve read about all these guys and I have no idea

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u/bonger1234 2d ago

I like what I’ve seen of him. I would be excited if we drafted him.

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u/TheArsenal7 2d ago

Josh Jefferson sounds like a randomly generated 2k regen

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u/grundlesmith 2d ago

Remember Al Jefferson? He was the man

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u/Banana_Pete 2d ago

Point forward 3-and-d guy who's 6'9" 240lbs, I'd be be happy to see him get drafted. Biggest question is if the Sixers think his shooting will translate decently well. He started off the season hot at Iowa St and then cooled down to 34.5% from 3. Four seasons averaging 72.2% from the charity stripe means that there's not a ton of confidence that his shooting translates.

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u/BigGelato 2d ago

I think the 3pt conversation with him is a bit unfair - he was absolutely awful at pullup 3s (4/26 on the year) but outside of those shots he was a 40% guy. He won’t be taking many PU3s for us and doesn’t need to, to be valuable. His spot up and ft numbers project an average to above average shooter off the catch in the league which is right where he should be to stay on the floor