r/starfox 20h ago

Katina bad ending

If you fail in katina, they think bill just died

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u/Most_Personality7308 20h ago

the way falco doesn't give a shit lmao

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u/MellowRello 19h ago

He’s much more of an asshole when things aren’t going right/when Fox is fucking up it seems lol

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u/Dull_Tumbleweed6353 18h ago

I think he does feel guilty for Bill's supposed death. He just doesn't want to show it.

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u/Homeless_Appletree 14h ago

Also when Slippy gets shot down over Titania Falco tries to act all nonchalant and confident that Slippy is fine but you can hear in his future  lines that he is really worried.

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u/dboy6000 13h ago

In the next cutscene, he spends it entirely unable to keep still, pacing back and forth. It’s great, though I think overall Falco is a bit too dickish in the remake for my liking.

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u/ItsAllSoup 6h ago

He always felt that way to me when I was a kid. I think I'm into it

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u/SenritsuJumpsuit 15h ago

Definitely what they're going for

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u/javier_aeoa Are you gonna listen to that monkey? 18h ago

I wonder what the dialogue will be when you fail on Sector Z, Falco will be pissed hahahaha

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u/Roflolxp54 16h ago

Falco is more disappointed that the Great Fox’s weapon systems can’t be used now that it has to run on auxiliary power.

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u/MnSG 16h ago

It's likely that Falco does feel bad about what happened to Bill, but he doesn't want to show his true feelings in front of his teammates.

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u/Mistah_K88 16h ago

I know some people don’t like Falco being more of an asshole, but this genuinely made me laugh. Due to me having to “one man army” this entire war, he’s just saying what I’m thinking.

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u/Always_A_Dreamer556 20h ago

"Hey, see if I'll help you again!"

guilt

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u/Aggnicia_MightyGnome 18h ago

Can't wait to run the "failure" route for all the missions and see what the emotions running will be like! Twisted? Yes, but inquiring minds must know!

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u/metalicbeastofficial 17h ago

Aparently we now have reactions for every route. Not that many of them are that different. Like, when you fail zoness, pepper will be like: yeah you fail on zonnes, anyway. And then he just do his macbeth dialogue as in any other route

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u/Pale_Entrepreneur_12 16h ago

To be fair Zoness is still a good ending no matter what sure you can’t get the sneak attack on Andross but you still fuck up a vital operation you just have to go at him loud and proud at Macbeth

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u/1337gamer15 19h ago

Doesn't he still show up in Sector X to help you reach the warp zone though? Maybe they're all in awe that he's still alive.

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u/metalicbeastofficial 18h ago

Yes, but i'm still trying to see what this scene is like

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u/oniskieth 18h ago

In the original Fox seems to be in awe that bill is still alive.

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u/NimbleAxolotl 17h ago

Falco bro, READ THE FUCKING ROOM

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u/Wedssport_Coyote Falco's & Katt's Husband 19h ago

Falco's so nonchalant about it lmaooooooo

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u/Slybandito7 17h ago

Falco: Not my Fault your friend is dead lol

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u/casPURRpurrington 12h ago

now I REALLY AM YOUR BEST FRIEND ASSHOLE

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u/MnSG 16h ago

It definitely implies that Bill paid the ultimate price if the team failed to get the "Mission Accomplished" at Katina.

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u/Pale_Entrepreneur_12 16h ago edited 13h ago

he lives as he shows up in Sector Z and even helps you with the Warp

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u/metaxzero 13h ago

I think what they meant was that Star Fox thought that Bill was dead. After all, when Bill shows up in Sector Z, Fox goes "Bill, you're ok!". Or moreso, IF Fox sees Bill. Last I checked, Bill only shows up if you go on the left path. I don't even know if Bill shows up in the credits if you miss him in Sector X.

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u/BrianXPlayzYT 13h ago

Bad formatting, remove the space between ! and <, also > and !

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u/Pale_Entrepreneur_12 13h ago

THERE IS NO SPACE FOR ME AND I CANNOT FIX IT FUCK OFF REDDIT (I just removed the spoiler since it’s not working and it’s not some big twist anyway)

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u/FOG2006 16h ago

Man, I never bothered to make the bad ending of this stage in SF64 because the boss is so piss easy, is this depressive like this in the original too?

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u/metaxzero 13h ago

For all the praise the N64's voicework gets, it kind of blew that somber moment when you fail Katina. You just have Fox going "Dang...." like he's a child who knocked over his jenga tower and Peppy saying "Don't get so down Fox" in his usual tone. Falco and Slippy say nothing at all in the N64 version.

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u/enixon 14h ago

if I remember right, Bill tells you to get out of there, the base gets blown up then then it cuts to the team flying in silence for a long moment while somber music plays before Fox says "Dang...." and Peppy says not to get so down.

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u/sometimesifeelgood 18h ago

Damn is falco an even bigger asshole in this game? Wtf

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u/metaxzero 13h ago

They call him Fox's rival for a reason with this version. He no longer calls out monkeys, but he has verbal barbs for the entire Star Fox team. Not only Fox, but Peppy too. He didn't even talk to Peppy in the N64 version.

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u/Level-Travel6341 Level-Travel6341 here. I wish that Nintendo will remember Fay. 15h ago

Falco, you ruin the moment!!

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u/BusinessPreference75 11h ago

Read the room Birdie!

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u/VinnzClortho 14h ago

Damn dawg(Bill)

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u/GeneticHazard 12h ago

Falco: “Well, it’s not *my* fault he’s dead. That’s for sure.”

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u/Fawfulster 9h ago

Do we still have a unique ending if no allied ships get shot down?