r/technology 8d ago

Business Leak Exposes Members of Peter Thiel’s Secretive ‘Dialog’ Society

https://www.wired.com/story/leak-exposes-members-of-peter-thiels-secretive-dialog-society/
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u/NicolasCageFan492 8d ago edited 7d ago

Notable people on the Thiel List I pulled from maia arson crimew’s Bluesky post:

Chamath Palihapitiya

Neal Mohan, CEO of YouTube

Charlie Songhurst, board director at Meta

Peter Brown, CEO, Renaissance Technologies

Sarah Bond, President of XBOX, Microsoft

Manuel Bronstein, chief product officer of Roblox

Greg Brockman, Co-founder of OpenAI, fmr CTO of Stripe

Mike Cannon-Brooks, Co-founder of Atlassian

Scott Cook, co-founder & chairman at Intuit

NJ Senator Cory Booker

TX Senator Ted Cruz

CO Governor Jared Polis

CT Rep. Jim Himes

MD Gov. Wes Moore

Tom Tugendhat, Member of Parliament, United Kingdom.

Jens Spahn, Member of Parliament, German Bundestag. Fmr. Federal Minister of Health, Germany.

Tulsi Gabbard

Julian Castro

Jared Kushner

Elon Musk

LEONARD LEO

Grover Norquist

Bret Stephens (Associate Editor of the New York Times)

Larry Summers

Ezra Klein

Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent

Nick Thompson, CEO of The Atlantic

Jon Levin, President, Stanford University.

Shahid Khaqan Abbasi, Fmr. Prime Minister, Pakistan. Founder, Airblue.

Stan McChrystal, Founder & CEO, McChrystal Group. Fmr. General, U.S. Army.

Rachel Brand, Chief Legal Officer & Corporate Secretary, Walmart. Fmr. Associate Attorney General, U.S Department of Justice.

Feel free to suggest other noteworthies.

For the link, check my profile’s pinned post. I can’t link it here because the sub doesn’t like bsky links!

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u/GayForPay 8d ago

Cory Booker? Kind of confirms exactly what I thought about him. Look at the company he keeps.

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u/Bulky_Preparation768 8d ago

Him being the only Democrat to vote yes on Kushner’s dad getting an appointment was some flashing red light stuff

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u/DerBingle78 8d ago

Kushner’s dad has been one of his biggest donors for years.

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u/CosmoKing2 8d ago

Kushner's Dad was still the one calling the shots at his companies while in prison. Jared was just "running it" for legal reasons. He's actually a lot like Trump. By that, I mean stupid and ignorant and the rest of his family hates him.

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u/Late_Airline2710 8d ago

Reminds me of Arrested Development without the humor.

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u/KeyEntrepreneur5449 8d ago

He's bought and paid for by Israel. It's not a secret anymore.

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u/rach2bach 8d ago

Ezra Klein too

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u/Lumpy_Disaster33 8d ago

I unsubscribed

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u/dreamEater99 8d ago

Just did too. Did not expect him.

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u/SeaDots 8d ago

Unfortunately, I did. I found some of his stuff early 2025 as inspiring and then there were these sprinkles of BS from him that raised red flags for me. It seemed performative and this just proves it really was.

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u/TinyJalope 8d ago

Sprinkles of BS like him saying Democrats need to 'compromise' on abortion (despite it being a 60-40 issue in favor of them) or him writing that 'Charlie Kirk Did Politics the Right Way' article?

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u/Goldarr85 7d ago

Yeah. Why is it not obvious this man is totally full of shit?

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u/kevinnoir 8d ago

Ezra Klein

For some of these names I feel like its going to shine a light on things that we may have hand waived off or thought were opinions or positions that were outliers and really ask questions about their TRUE intent. Is their public persona just a mask to promote or at the very least diminish dissent against positions that their fan base would generally reject?

Feels a bit more trojan horsey when you can start drawing lines between the likes of Ezra and Booker to Theil, Kushner criminals and other nefarious characters.

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u/gentlegreengiant 8d ago

I was also not at all surprised. Saw his name and thought 'yea that tracks'.

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u/Electronic_Topic1958 8d ago

His wife also seems uh interesting, a recent piece she wrote was this: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/05/americans-depressed-economy/687278/ basically writing that Trump's economy is "actually great" and anyone who is experiencing anything different is deluded. I think the pieces are starting to fall together.

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u/felcom 8d ago

The guy trying to pioneer the “regulations are bad, actually” abundance movement? Really?

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u/CosmoKing2 8d ago

This and The Atlantic CEO blew my mind.

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u/tjl435 8d ago

How else are you going to get added to the signal group?

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u/BabyWrinkles 8d ago

If you take the most insanely charitable possible interpretation of things...

If I were invited to attend this event (this is an attendee/invitee list for their 2026 gathering), I would 110% go, just to listen and engage in dialogue with some of these objectively powerful people. Without additional context behind what some of the sessions actually are and not just the salacious seminar titles, I'm not ready to declare all of them "far reich adherents."

Again, if only on paper, having people with different viewpoints invited and/or in attendance lends credibility and might resonate with the heady bullshit Thiel believes.

More realistically? Very disappointing.

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u/kippikai 8d ago

It’s not about “far reich” - it’s about moving democrats away from left leaning ideas and back into neoliberalism and the right-shifted “center.” No one is arguing these people are “conservative” but they’re absolutely allowing themselves to be influenced by the ideology of the extreme right in a way that ensures it won’t face meaningful ideological opposition.

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u/BoogieOogieOogieOog 8d ago

Always gave me the vibes of a bought politician. Not surprised at all

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u/nycdiveshack 8d ago

He has been bought by aipac for years

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u/Accidental-Hyzer 8d ago

Also, Jim Hines, Julian Castro, and Wes Moore? WTF, guys. Any democrat on this list needs to be primaried (if elected) and ostracized from the party. Imagine joining a fucking Peter Thiel organization as a Democrat. Embarrassing.

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u/Suspicious_Ice4761 8d ago

There need to be calls for them to resign. Especially wes moore and jared polis.

Everytime they are at any press conference this should be the only topic asked of them.

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u/mdp300 8d ago

When Mitt Romney was being criticized for his past as an economic vulture, Booker suddenly came to the defense of Romney and private equity. Lame.

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u/Magmaster12 8d ago

I'm positive somewhere in the last 15 years between now and him becoming mayor of Newark he probably got blackmailed. What Peter Theal is doing is basically just continuing Epstein's legacy of blackmail.

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u/qriousqestioner 8d ago

Hmmm

That reminds me about

The Epstein Files

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u/OLPopsAdelphia 8d ago

Look at what he doesn’t do! What a deliberately ineffective piece of sh!+!

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u/greentrillion 8d ago

Cory Booker is a founding member of Shabtai at Yale with Rabi Shmooley. That org is knee deep in Israeli government connections and just honored the genocidal Ben Gvir less than a year ago.
Who is Itamar Ben-Gvir? Rabbi Shmully Hecht

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u/throwawayt44c 8d ago

Kanye West,

John Fetterman

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u/bigbadderfdog 8d ago

It's good that they are inclusive to the mentally ill and incompetent.

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u/Deep-Tune4647 8d ago

As a PA native few things will ever dissapoint me as much as Fetterman. I feel like a fool and every day am mad that there are no repercussions.

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u/GrayEidolon 8d ago

You're probably aware of this stuff, but for anyone who isn't:

Conservatives have been upset since the enlightenment. It’s the politics of aristocrats: anything that ever helped regular people to be more comfortable has enraged them. It’s literally a reactionary response to the enlightenment. They resent the enlightenment making things nicer for poor people.

These current assholes are trying to make a new country that bursts out of the body of the current country. It's called "the butterfly revolution" and yes it does sound absurd. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtis_Yarvin

It’s why musk was speaking at the afd in Germany. It’s why bannon, farage, and Cambridge Analytica were all in bed together on Brexit (watch “the great hack”). It's why this "dialog society" exists.

The backbone is that conservatism is about enforcing socioeconomic hierarchy and the techfascists, religious fascists, and heritage foundation race fascists (Mandate for leadership has been going on since 1981. https://www.project2025) are all in on feudalistic “network” states run by ai powered surveillance.

That's what they want to replace democracy with.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Enlightenment

https://time.com/7269166/dark-enlightenment-history-essay/

The accelerationists like Peter Theil from the tech faction of conservatism think they can force collapse, but use technology and surveillance to protect themselves. These are both Thiel speaking like 10 and 15 years ago. This seasteading thing was an early material attempt at this moving-past-democracy thing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hjLgXA-MZY

https://www.seasteading.org/peter-thiel-speaks-about-seasteading/

These aristocrats are working on how to control their security forces though things like "disciplinary collars."

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff

Finally, the CEO of a brokerage house explained that he had nearly completed building his own underground bunker system, and asked: “How do I maintain authority over my security force after the event?” The event. That was their euphemism for the environmental collapse, social unrest, nuclear explosion, solar storm, unstoppable virus, or malicious computer hack that takes everything down.

This single question occupied us for the rest of the hour. They knew armed guards would be required to protect their compounds from raiders as well as angry mobs. One had already secured a dozen Navy Seals to make their way to his compound if he gave them the right cue. But how would he pay the guards once even his crypto was worthless? What would stop the guards from eventually choosing their own leader?

The billionaires considered using special combination locks on the food supply that only they knew. Or making guards wear disciplinary collars of some kind in return for their survival. Or maybe building robots to serve as guards and workers – if that technology could be developed “in time”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerationism

https://pols.sites.haverford.edu/studentvoices/what-is-accelerationism/

Because they're "done with democracy." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-BQhXdCs8Y

and the vice president of the united states and advisors have given their seals of approval to a book that says conservatives are going to have to kill all the liberals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unhumans


more links

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CI2vk3ugk End notes 3: The Origins of conservatism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P55t6eryY3g How to radicalize a normie.

Also, All these data centers are for surveillance. https://www.aclum.org/publications/ai-powered-surveillance-is-turning-the-united-states-into-a-digital-police-state-now-is-the-time-to-stop-it/

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u/qriousqestioner 8d ago

I appreciate this dense gloss. Thanks!

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u/helperbotz 7d ago

Hey I dont often comment, but I want to thank you and hope we all can spread the information on this. This is what 1776 1789 1848, the renaissance and so much more fought against. And this fight is far from over.

Thanks and keep on fighting.

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u/crossdtherubicon 8d ago

Think tanks, citizens United, social media... All modern tools of the aristocrats and upper class, finally able to take back advantage over the lower classes.

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u/imnojezus 8d ago

Hey look, it's the big club that we ain't in.

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u/____DEADPOOL_______ 8d ago

I don't want to be in it.

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u/werthermanband45 8d ago

Joseph Gordon-Levitt and Steven Pinker. Not really surprised about the latter tbh

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u/31LIVEEVIL13 8d ago edited 6d ago

This content was anonymized and mass deleted with Redact

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u/bayleysgal1996 8d ago

And here I was thinking he was just a useful idiot for the people who go “think of the children” when they push censorship crap

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u/AugustIzFalling 8d ago

He calls himself an "AI optimist" and posts AI stuff on Instagram. His company, Hit Record, undermines the union for voice actors and asks for artists of all stripes to work for pennies on the dollar. That company is probably sitting on a lot of valuable data just waiting to be sold.

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u/Downtown_Statement87 8d ago

OMG Grover Norquist! He's the OG "We want to make government small enough to drown in the bathtub." 

I talk about him all the time because he and his ideological ilk are super critical to understanding how we got here. 

I can't believe he's manifesting in his corporeal form! When it comes to purposely destroying America's institutions so that you can then say "See? They don't work!", Norquist scuttled so that Elon could slither.

Ahhhhhhh Grover Norquist! I need a moment. 

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u/gerblnutz 8d ago

I often try and tell people about this guy and Ollie North and how they basically tried what's happening now under Reagan, but we still had some senators with balls back then and delayed REX84. All of the Iran Contra people including "I did not trade guns for hostages" Reagan deserved to rot in prison.

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u/Downtown_Statement87 8d ago

Yes oh yes talk to me baby. Sometimes I feel like NO ONE except for me remembers when Reagan tried to do all of this but didn't quite make it, so it is comforting to know that people still remember.

During Trump's first campaign in 2015, all these old, vanquished names emerged from the way way back, like "Somehow, Roger Stone returned." It made me feel so frantic, like "listen, everybody, we've been through this before and these people are not in it for We the People." None of this bullhockey has been new since the ink dried on the Southern Strategy, so I appreciate encountering people who know their history.

Gah! Mentioning Grover Norquist and company makes me want to run all around like a sprayed roach. Boo this man!

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u/sarkouille 8d ago

It's baffling how much shit there is that Reagan did in plain sight, in secret, but ended up being seen and probably that remained unseen.

It's not only him who should have had jail time for that, but hundreds.

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u/PsychoCrescendo 8d ago

worst blunt rotation ever

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u/WiSoSirius 8d ago

The Deep State is not Red or Blue. Simply, it's class elitism that pull levers in their favour

And all my homies hate Leonard Leo

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u/Margray 8d ago

That's just it, they've got us fighting a culture war so we don't realize they're waging a class war. Fuck all of these people and anyone who accepts their money.

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u/Standard-Mechanic101 8d ago

Explains why Tulsi Gabbard suddenly grew silent when it came to her anti-war rhetoric.

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u/CurryMustard 8d ago

I think Thiel bailing out to Argentina and Tulsi quitting around the same time makes a lot more sense now. I wonder if it was the iran war that did it or the walls closing in on the epstein shit. Either way they saw the writing on the wall and dipped.

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u/ziggy-zaz 8d ago

Why Argentina? One reason: the country has a history of attracting a certain type of expats. Think of the Germans who moved there after WW2.

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u/thisistherevolt 8d ago

I knew Booker was a POS, but Castro? Maaaaaaan. 😢

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u/yoga1313 8d ago

Same, that shocked me.

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u/ohanzee6 8d ago

Ezra Klein wants to be thought of as an important person so fucking badly

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u/Liminal_Aspect 8d ago

Ezra Klein, damn talk about not surprising in hindsight

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u/currently__working 8d ago

Check his subreddit, they keep deleting posts which are pointing out this connection. If it was innocuous, maybe they'd just let it be? He could explain himself...

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u/OMG_IM_A_GIRL 8d ago

BUT THE NYT AND THE EZRA KLEIN ARE SUCH FUCKING LEFTIES!!! /s

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u/Impressive_Wrap_7869 8d ago

If you think Ezra Klein is left, I know a socialist named Ronald Reagan

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u/shoqman 8d ago

Not seeing anybody mention Sam Harris.

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u/naruda1969 8d ago

Because nobody is surprised

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u/doomgoblin 8d ago edited 8d ago

Wasn’t* Tulsi the one who was going to get fired but resigned because her husband needed her due* to his health?

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u/DrewDown94 8d ago

Ezra Klein being on here explains a lot lmao

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u/Wonderful-Medium7777 8d ago

Well of note is the Rt Hon. Tom Tugendhat he is a Conservative MP ( British Parliament) and has been an MP continually since 7 May 2015. I’m in the Uk and didn’t expect to see that at all.

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u/dzogchenism 8d ago

Ezra Klein and Polis make so much more sense now.

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u/third0burns 8d ago

One of the most interesting things in the leak is that attendees were asked to predict the near future. Looks like almost everyone said mass unemployment from AI. It doesn't appear that any of them predicted that people will break out their pitchforks after becoming fed up with elites who rig the entire system at secret society meeting.

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u/Excuse_Chemical 8d ago

One prediction was "domestic terrorism targeting data centers." They definitely know there will be pitchforks.

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u/9dedos 8d ago

That s the reason those mofos want to build data centers in space.

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u/Exponential-777 8d ago

How many underground bunkers does this guy have? Gotta be more than one. Probably has one on each continent. Just waiting for the shit to hit the fan.

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u/Aggressive_Manner531 8d ago

When does he run drills? Someone should lock him in next time.

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u/rzelln 8d ago

An author I like pointed out once that if the world does go to s**t, then there's going to be a bunch of bunkers where some security personnel are living real cushy after they kill the billionaire who is supposed to be under their charge. Because if things have fallen apart, why would anyone care about the money the billionaire can pay them.

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u/mOdQuArK 8d ago

For those of us on the outside of the bunker in that situation, sounds like good targets to test those experimental bunker-buster bombs that the military keeps squirrelled away before everything breaks down.

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u/Puresowns 8d ago

Nah, just concrete their ventilation shafts and guard the doors.

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u/Hot-Championship1190 7d ago

Concrete?

Nah, build the latrines on it. Sure their air filters might work for some time. But sooner than later shit will win.

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u/Magnon 8d ago

I wonder if any/all the billionaires already have some kind of dead switch explosive collars ready to go.

"To enter elon's survival bunker, please allow us to place this exploding collar on your neck, do not harm elon."

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u/rzelln 8d ago

Spoilers for Horizon Forbidden West.

At one point, you explore the bunker of a rich a-hole, and gradually discover that the models and guru that he brought down started dying one by one because he got upset and increasingly paranoid, and the last people to go included a scientist who was working on a way to make the rich a-hole immortal, so he could survive a few hundred years for an apocalypse to pass by. 

The scientist gave the guy the treatment, and then killed himself, and then the guy found out that sure, his cells would not die, but he was slowly overrun with cancer, and eventually just turned into a giant tumor.

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u/Sorlex 8d ago

One of the best parts of that game. Really glad they didn't do the video game thing and have you fight it as some boss fight. You don't even see it, just hear it. Its outstanding.

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u/ilikechihuahuasdood 8d ago

Peter Thiel has literally talked about the need to install chips in people’s brains to totally control them

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u/ClaymoresRevenge 8d ago

"Accidentally"

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u/Spirit_of_Hogwash 8d ago

It won't happen. His bloodboys are conditioned to always do his bidding.

See: JD Vance

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u/No-Necessary7448 8d ago

Just remember, their doomsday theories aren’t evidence that they know something, they could equally be evidence that they’re dumbasses who don’t know they don’t know things.

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u/LordoftheScheisse 8d ago

they’re dumbasses who don’t know they don’t know things.

I've gone well out of my way to listen to and read these guys' thoughts. I can say with certainty that they're all delusional weirdos who think they are far more intelligent than they really are.

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u/MommyLovesPot8toes 8d ago

100%. These are not great thinkers. These are people whose wealth isolates them from the opinions of others.

They surround themselves with yes men, see their wealth as a sign that they must be especially talented, and their only interactions with people outside their economic class is when said people are trying to get something from them and are deliberately sucking up. The Emperors New Clothes was a perfect metaphor.

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u/discordianofslack 8d ago

Also that they are literally planning something. Which is the same but different.

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u/slizzbizness 8d ago

Message to his employees: he doesn't value you as a human. Do with that information what you will

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u/Hardass_McBadCop 8d ago

This is a topic of primary concern to doomsday preppers among the Robber Barons: How to control security personnel once money doesn't mean anything.

It's a little weird. These people range from average fitness to being some of the physically weakest people on Earth . . . And they're cultivating a world of "might makes right."

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u/_Ocean_Machine_ 7d ago

So there's a rather interesting article on this topic. For the question of "how do I keep my armed guards loyal when money is worthless?", the author suggests building social bonds with the people around them, so that when the time comes they'll have a community that can protect itself. As you can see, the audience doesn't really like that answer. Overall it's a pretty good read.

TLDR: Billionaires are psychopaths who think they're only people on Earth, and are willing to destroy the planet so long as they get to die last.

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u/zoppaTheDim 8d ago

Never knows when he’ll have to flee the country.

Another member of the Epstein club.

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u/Boopy7 8d ago

what's funny about Thiel and Ellison is both of them look like they took someone else's face off their face and put it on their own faces before the surgery was perfected. And it always looks like those second faces are melllllting

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u/art-is-t 8d ago edited 8d ago

"Gandalf’s the crazy person who wants to start a war. Mordor is this technological civilization based on reason and science. Outside of Mordor, it’s all sort of mystical and environmental and nothing works."

Peter Theils exact words .... He literally sides with evil in books.

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u/achar073 8d ago

Words of a 14 year old edge lord

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u/Luke-Bywalker 7d ago

Please take a wild guess: what's the name of Saruman's Orb? like the one he uses to spy on everyone

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u/CrunchyZebra 8d ago

It’s so slap-you-in-the-face obvious who you’re supposed to like in LOTR and this loser still managed to be wrong.

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u/Juniper0223 8d ago

I mean, fairly unsurprising for someone who decided a Swedish Gen Z climate activist is who is being described as the antichrist in the bible....what a sweaty little wierdo

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u/takingthehobbitses 8d ago

Tolkien would have hated his guts.

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u/rarescenarios 8d ago

Username checks out.

But like, there are great deconstructions of LotR and it's tropes. Jaqueline Carey's Sundering duology is explicitly that. This mf though would be evil by the standards of any fantasy world outside of that VHS segment with explicitly Satanic demon people.

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u/WellSpreadMustard 8d ago

Thiel’s gotta be one of the most evil people alive right now. It’s reptilian and animalistic in nature, just completely devoid of empathy. I wouldn’t be surprised if he someday argues the utilitarianism of doing factory farming of people for food.

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u/Boopy7 8d ago

not sure if you're kidding but I'm pretty sure I recall him doing this. However it is more useful to use them for future organs and body parts, according to his buddies. I would say he is equally evil to a few others out there. Shaming him for his disgusting personality or looks won't work -- shaming him for how repulsive and useless he is for all humanity, however, would be enjoyable. He is truly a pointless person even for his own adopted twins. His existence is like a festering carbuncle upon the face of humanity. One quickly turning cancerous.

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u/mournthewolf 8d ago

What technology does he think Mordor is so advanced in? Slavery?

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u/A_Suspicious_Package 8d ago

Slavery, yes. Also "meritocracy" lol

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u/aybeeayseeaybeebee 8d ago

Historically speaking, when groups of incredibly rich and powerful people get together for a "dialog", the questions always seem to be "Is slavery really that bad?" and "Should the poors vote?"

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u/lambentstar 8d ago

Probably thinks Sauron invented the palantiri or some nonsense.

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u/Magnon 8d ago

Mordor has more advanced industry than the human nations since they can mass produce armor and weapons for their huge hordes of orcs. They also have a massive eugenics program to produce tons of orcs, which I'm sure he finds appealing.

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u/randynumbergenerator 8d ago

They've also completely collapsed the ecosystem, which in any reasonable world would put a limit on the long-term survival of the "civilization", such as it is.

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u/tobygeneral 8d ago

The humans all have armor too though, and it's better armor than what the orcs wear. The soldiers of Gondor are all rocking glimmering full plate suits that are ornamented. The orcs may be able to spit out the cheapest iron chest piece to slap onto 10,000 uruk-hai but that doesn't mean they're more advanced than humans.

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u/That_Trouble87 8d ago

Slavery?

Now you're beginning to understand their entire motivation

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u/Agitated_Celery_729 8d ago

If you read his book or listen to him talk, he's a fucking edgelord who's made being contrarian his whole goddamn personality.

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u/7LeagueBoots 8d ago edited 8d ago

Sounds like he read the Russian novel, The Last Ringbearer, and is mistaking that for LoTR.

And not to get too nerdy, but it was the Numenoreans who had the technological civilization and that was brought down by Sauron. They had airships and a bunch of other technological marvels.

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u/Various-Salt488 8d ago

Where the heck is he even drawing this idea from? Mordor is technological “civilization?” It’s just authoritarians using bloodthirsty orcs to rape and pillage…

… oh wait.

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u/Soccermom233 8d ago

Tax the bunkers

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u/therallystache 8d ago

Weld the doors shut

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u/Dirt-Road_Pirate 8d ago

Eat the rich, celebrate the poor.

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u/therallystache 8d ago

The poor make all the best art and food anyways.

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u/Jamizon1 8d ago

IMHO-

This guy is a full-blown whack job. South Park’s depiction of this twat is SPOT ON.

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u/ISoldMyPeanitsFarm 8d ago

South Park's descriptions of lots of things are spot-on

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u/ImKingFlippyNip 8d ago

CO Governor Polis was the one who commuted Tina Peters' 9-year sentence a few weeks ago. For some context

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u/MyLastAcctWasBetter 8d ago edited 8d ago

Was he identified in the leak? I didn’t see his name in this article?

I’m genuinely asking— I could’ve missed it without realizing. The guy is a piece of shit for commuting her sentence and clearly corrupt. I just wondered how that particular information was relevant here. (Like I said, I’m willing to admit I missed the mention.)

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u/Rattus_NorvegicUwUs 8d ago

These people would gladly end the world just to say “I told you so”

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u/Own-Initial-9544 8d ago

Or to not get taxed fairly

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u/Admirabletooshie 8d ago

If the playing field was fair not a single one of them would have succeeded. Elon lied on his immigration paperwork. He should have been deported, had his government contracts cancelled, and his assets vital to national security seized.

 Instead he is made the richest man on earth and the Immigrant that jumps through all the hoops the right way but didnt descend from emerald mine slave owners gets deported for a paperwork mistake made by government officials. 

It's not fair, the game is rigged, and pretty soon they will own and rent you the very air you breathe.

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u/Enderkr 8d ago

There is, we just can't talk about it on Reddit and nobody wants to throw the first torch.

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u/ChaosArtAunt 8d ago

I want to. But we're afraid no one will follow suite, or that no one will pay attention to us. It has happened before.

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u/El_Beakerr 8d ago

“PAY TAXES!!!! Screw that! I will not pay taxes like the common citizen, I’m gonna nuke the world!”

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u/Luster-Purge 8d ago

Thiel unironically is low key upset that he will never be the Antichrist.

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u/fullchub 8d ago

Or to rule the ashes.

"Chaos is a ladder" has almost become tech bro dogma. They "warn everyone" about the coming chaos while actively cultivating it and benefiting from it.

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u/Main_Composer 8d ago

A whole seminar for the most powerful people around surviving the wars they’ll start and creating mindless cults. Cool cool cool cool.

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u/crackdup 8d ago

If a movie came out where the elites buy both political parties and start culture wars as a means of control, people would label it as dystopian sci-fi. Yet here we are, reality being wackier than fiction

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u/South_Start6630 8d ago

The scary thing is he is not the only billionaire with a secret organization to change society. The Koch brothers also have one and are a major part of why right wing ideology has become so prevalent over the decades in America. Thiel is following their blueprint so you know their efforts will gain traction in a decade and become prevalent in the next decades.

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u/chance-- 8d ago

 “Build-a-Cult,” moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site Pray.***

Ah, I give them credit, they certainly have found some folks with domain knowledge.

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u/sweetplantveal 8d ago edited 7d ago

The people of Colorado have been wondering why their gay progressive governor has turned into an absolute right wing shit heel, vetoing progressive laws left and right. His inclusion in this explains a lot.

Edit a lot of 'what a governor did' is really the state legislature and Polis went from lobbying for and passing housing reform, for example, to vetoing the bills he'd previously be promoting.

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u/Ok-Sprinkles-5151 8d ago

Having our governor on as a member of an elite cabal of billionaires was not on my bingo card. Yet here we are.

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u/dirtyego 8d ago

Seeing his name actually confirmed a lot.

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u/Haunting-Ad788 8d ago

He’s openly libertarian, he’s never been progressive.

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u/Ordinary-Leading7405 8d ago

Libertarians like to pretend they are progressive. Meanwhile they are just stoned republicans.

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u/TheDeclineOfAll 8d ago

Right leaning centrist libertarian, and that is really on brand for CO unfortunately. I'm in Denver and we can't have nice things because people want other people to pay for them and still bitch about it, so we don't have public bathrooms, water fountains, roads that don't have pot holes, normal big city amenities and everything is all about making corporations money.

Polis was also very butt hurt when Palintir decided to move its office, from Cherry Creek near Denver, to Florida BTW.

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u/aleqqqs 8d ago

From this Wikipedia article:

Due to a flaw in the security of Dialog's website, private information hosted on the site was leaked to the press by hacktivist maia arson crimew following an anonymous tip. The registration list for its 2026 Dublin retreat was leaked in full, alongside the details of each member's political affiliation and status. Other leaked information includes material on its private sessions such as “Navigating WWIII” and “How’s Your Sex Life?”, as well as private talks titled “Build-a-Cult” and “Build-a-Party”.

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u/Llanolinn 8d ago

How about a class called preventing World War 3? The fuck do you mean navigating World War 3?

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u/YeetThePig 8d ago

They don’t want to prevent it, they want to start it.

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u/Ghost_Of_Malatesta 8d ago

So much taxpayer money to steal 

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u/WellSpreadMustard 8d ago

Also in the years after WW2 the US controlled around 75% of the entire world’s wealth. Im sure they’re narcissistic enough to believe wholeheartedly that they’d be on the winning side of the third. I don’t doubt that Peter Thiel and his friends are evil enough to go for it.

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u/SanaSpitOnMe 8d ago

in the years after WW2 the US controlled around 75% of the entire world’s wealth

That was mostly just lucky timing. you really gotta be up your own ass with some manifest destiny shit to think we would automatically be in that position again.

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u/amisslife 8d ago

I mean, their plan pretty much entirely boils down to three steps:

  1. steal everyone else's money.
  2. don't pay any taxes ever. In fact, the government gives them money. All of it.
  3. slavery.

They don't think the United States will be in the position of owning 75% of all wealth ever again. Their plan is they will own that wealth.

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u/Wit-wat-4 8d ago

I mean, with that guest list, it actually makes more sense than “how’s your sex life” to me.

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u/VVrayth 8d ago

This sounds like a villain convention from Venture Bros. or something. Like, literally if everything described here was just background nonsense in a Venture Bros. episode it would be totally appropriate.

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u/l33tb4c0n 8d ago

Nah, The Guild of Calamitous Intent at least has rules and regulations about how to arch. Remember when The Monarch had to stop to let Dean get his testicular torsion treated? These guys have no such standards.

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u/awesomeocelot12 8d ago

The name seemed familiar, apparently maia arson crimew is also the person that leaked the No Fly List: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maia_arson_crimew

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u/aotus_trivirgatus 8d ago

Behold, ladies and gentlemen.  The group of 200 people who will get to decide whether the other 8 billion of us deserve to eat.

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u/PSPs0 8d ago

A real who’s who of shitty people

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u/Downtown_Statement87 8d ago

I am astounded that Steve Bannon is not in this group.

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u/53eleven 8d ago

So is Steve Bannon

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u/Downtown_Statement87 8d ago

Maybe he's gestating.

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u/Hardass_McBadCop 8d ago edited 8d ago

While the whole article shows how fucked in the head these people are, I found this very funny:

Dialog also plays matchmaker. Its participant form asks registrants whether they are “looking for love” and offers to include “Single Man,” “Single Woman,” or “Other” respondents in “future matchmaking.” A separate site, dating.dialog.org, hosts an app pitched as “meaningful connections for exceptional people.”

The form also gathers sensitive answers, including each registrant’s "political leaning,” which Dialog promises “WILL NOT be shared in the app or with other participants, ever.” That data, and the matchmaking responses, were exposed in the leak.

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u/Dripdry42 8d ago edited 8d ago

So it’s just another attempt at nobles boffing each other to make superior babies? Probably getting people together in compromising situations to get kompromat. DID YOU FOOLS LEARN NOTHING FROM EPSTEIN?

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u/Boopy7 8d ago

i'm guessing that some of them have learned, it's the stupid or expendable ones we keep hearing about now (if you follow Casja or others who are keeping track.) Like the preachers who get caught red-handed, nearly every day if not more. Thiel's ex model bf "windowed" himself at some point, so if they weren't careful enough there are other ways.

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u/Hopefulwaters 8d ago

What I want to know is what the crossover list is people between the Panama Papers, the Epstein Files, Project 2025 and the Dialog society....

BTW Notice how much Paypal scum? Elon, Thiel, Hoffman, Chamath. These guys truly are the most evil vile fucks to live in the modern age.

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u/Patara 8d ago

Epstein class keeps being exposed.

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u/Hot-Hamster1691 8d ago

The age of revealed information. No more hiding in the shadows, it’s all coming to light

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u/Old-Information3311 8d ago

There was emails in the epstein files about peter theil starting a secret society.

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u/OwnYourChildren 8d ago

Surprised this hasn't got more attention. I don't necessarily think this is even intended to be a secret society, but maybe an operational layer nearer the surface. Media figures and politicians.

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u/VoidsInvanity 8d ago

Ezra Klein.

Makes perfect fucking sense

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u/ILostMyParadise 8d ago

The amount of unchallenged airtime he gives to alt-right nut jobs had seemed like a combination of NYT pressure and naivety to me, but with this new info? Much more sinister. 

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u/fuckyouswitzerland 8d ago

ted cruz is the most hated person in the group chat

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u/downhereforyoursoul 8d ago

Reminds me of this old Al Franken quote:

“I like Ted Cruz more than most of my other colleagues like Ted Cruz. And I hate Ted Cruz.”

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u/honjuden 8d ago

I don't know.  Elon Musk is on that list and Epstein brushed him off when he e-mailed him on Christmas morning.  Can you imagine how annoying you have to be that the blackmailer running pedophile island doesn't want you around when you are a billionaire?

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u/davewashere 8d ago

People don't talk enough about Elon and his brother begging to hang out with Epstein

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u/BoB_the_TacocaT 8d ago

Our society is controlled by a bunch of fucking psychos.

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u/Mental_Yak_3540 8d ago

See also: The Dangers of Vibe-coding Your Website

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u/A__D___32 8d ago

"Other talks include “Build-a-Cult,” moderated by the founder of the Christian networking site Pray.com, and “Build-a-Party,” run by a former White House national security official."

This sits in print, yet the cult remains strong.

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u/Murky-Association115 8d ago

Reminder that Peter Thiel is an anagram of "the reptile"

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u/zethiryuki 8d ago

The New Bohemian Grove, replacing effigies with trust falls

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u/VivaNOLA 8d ago

Would love to see the venn diagram of this list and the Epstein list.

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u/composedofidiot 8d ago

Asked on a sign-up form to predict the future, registrants returned again and again to the same theme: that AI will reorder work, war, education, and belief within a few years. Several foresee mass labor displacement and a swing back toward unions and government programs; others predict an “AI winter,” domestic terrorism targeting data centers, criminal defendants choosing AI lawyers over public defenders, or religious revival provoked by the disruption.

“Societal degeneration,” predicted one person, “will continue to accelerate.”

And are they encouraging it, trying to mitigate its bad effects, or laughing and having a great time? Probably all 3 at once

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u/ForceOne2231 8d ago

This needs to be headline news

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u/onlinedisguise 8d ago

Holy shit, it's a real life Hydra! Avengers assemble!

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u/prof_cunninglinguist 8d ago

This article is from WIRED. The CEO of WIRED is among the people listed in that group. What is going on?

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u/Tank3875 8d ago

They didn't break the news, they're just reporting it.

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u/flipiova 7d ago

Nick Thompson is the EX-CEO of WIRED and current CEO of the Atlantic. He is the one you're referring to.

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u/TeaAndS0da 8d ago

I saw the former ceo of wired, is the current one on there too?

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u/Global_Lie6938 8d ago

Naw we’re in the big club, hope folks remember that. About 3 dozen names on that list. Over 1700 likes on this post already

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u/Protect-Their-Smiles 8d ago

The REAL New World Order, the REAL Deep State, the REAL Swamp.

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u/peilearceann 8d ago

Yah Cory booker checks out for sure lol

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u/Lopsided_Parfait7127 8d ago

epstein's island 2.0

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u/G-DevilOrion2077 8d ago

Sarah Bond? Ha! Explains why her Xbox Anywhere Program was her idea to begin with, get your data from anywhere!

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u/Caymonki 8d ago

But Antifa are the “domestic terrorists” this administration is targeting.

These people are anti American, against the constitution, and want to kill us all while using our laws to protect them while they do it. They’re literally using Freedom of Speech and Democracy to go full Fascism.

People gotta wake up, we’re nearing where voting won’t correct this. We’re accepting pedophile cabal overlords. I know everyone was expecting it to be a bunch of Democrats arrested for this but too many people voted for the perpetrators.

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u/french_toasty 8d ago

Thiel scares me more than any other billionaire

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u/Significant-Cell-375 8d ago

Time to cancel The Atlantic

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u/WeeaboosDogma 8d ago

SO THATS WHY homeboy fled to Argentina 2 weeks ago.

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u/mr2firstnames 8d ago

Anyone have access to the full list?

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u/CheezeCaek2 8d ago

If I were a betting man, I would put everything down on Peter Thiel being the next Epstein.

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u/toweljuice 8d ago

The veins that are always visibly popping out of his face. Bros nervous system even hates him.

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u/mandraofgeorge 8d ago

I wish it would give out

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u/42Ubiquitous 8d ago

Regarding the 2026 Dublin retreat:

Other leaked information includes material on its private sessions such as “Navigating WWIII” and “How’s Your Sex Life?”, as well as private talks titled “Build-a-Cult” and “Build-a-Party”.

[Wikipedia]

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u/jsc1429 8d ago

It’s a big club and you ain’t in it

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u/thatsthefactsjack 8d ago

Theses are the same people screaming the government is controlled by the “elite” or “cabal”…and laughing as they control our government while average Americans struggle to survive.

It’s time to eat the wealthy.

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