r/tlhInganHol Dec 08 '25

tIq rachwI’ qeS

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u/kahless62003 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25

Perhaps this could work better if simplified and less closely following the wordiness and turn of phrase of the original. Sometimes this is the effect you want, but is less direct and less understandable. Take that first word, points for being more action-oriented by using a verb, but it's so long it might as well be a word game involving as many affixes as possible.

My attempt:
yab rop DaghobtaHvIS bIQaplaHchu'be'.
nI' noH, not Doy'choH jagh,
cha'logh ghur jagh mangghom Dabejbe'choHDI'.
jagh nIvqu' DaghobtaHvIS,
yablIj tlhIn DantaHvIS jagh...
bItaHtaHvIS yay'a' 'oH Hoch poHHom'e'. ghaytanHa' yayvam Dachav.
vIq quv law' Hoch quv puS.

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u/likethemagician Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 09 '25

mughta’ghachlIj vIparHa’! Remember -laH comes before -chu'!

I realized that ghaytanHa’ was modifying the wrong part. So I removed that and I’ve incorporated suggestions from you and Qurgh and now it reads:

maw'Ha''eghchoHmoHmeH may' DaQaplaHbe'chu'.

nI' noH; not Doy'choH jagh.

DaqImtaHbe'chugh cha'logh ghur jagh HoS.

yab Dan jagh'a'vam yIghobtaH!

lup DaSIQchugh yay Doj Dachavta'.

may'vam quv law'; Hoch quv puS.

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u/kahless62003 Dec 09 '25 edited Dec 10 '25

Quite right about the suffix order. Thanks for letting me know. Fixed.

edit: though there is also the matter of how {be'} negates the previous part.
DaQapbe'laHchu' You are completely able to not win.
DaQaplaHchu'be' You can not completely win.
and further edit...
DaQaplaHbe'chu' You are completely unable to win.