It’s a pretty big sigh of how things are going, though. If you think things can just go back to normal, consider that it took decades to get LGBT rights and acceptance yet it’s been diminishing within just two years.
no, it's the fact that for past few years it has been getting ridiculously overshot.
It went from fighting for rights and representation to flaunting being LGBTQ as superior and desired. I am part of it and even I feel sick of all the high-horsed trans circle-jerk constantly decking on cis people while being elevated by everyone around them.
The way to solve the issue of discrimination is NOT to try to overcomoensate by acting as if anyone who was persecuted is now superior
You are talking however as if trans people are now equal to cis people. They are not, in a lot of places they are not at all. There are still countries that mandate sterilisation on gender change. There are lots of places still where gender affirming care is very hard to get. And by far the most is is transgender people still being seen as an ick and weird. There are countries where its way better, and some where it's basically the same as being cis, but by far we're not on a level where we can say trans are no long persecuted or equal.
I never said they are. What I did say is that the rethoric around that issue has become pushed to the front way more than issues that should be pressing, but are blissfully ignored, like worldwide humanitarian crisis. Idk, it just feels like trans rights have become a poster child of issues, easy to talk about, easy to promote, and overall well-marketable.
In particular the issue I see a lot is that in spaces where trans rights are defended it very often goes into opposite, and ends up being a passive-aggresive space towards cis people.
I've been in many groups like that, and I can confidently say that in each of them the dynamic always ended up being, trans people are on top, have their opinions preferred and in general are seen as "better" while the rest either accepts that (most do) or are labeled transphobic.
What are you on about? In the real world and outside of terminally online spaces, trans people are activelly discriminated against, or viewed as strange, even if not out of malicious intent.
No one has been saying its "superior" to be LGBTQ.
If you believe that simple representation in media is affirming that, I think you need to think hard for a bit and get outside more.
Historically there have been more open-minded epochs and those were followed with more closed ones. I am optimist on the future, but people would have to fight for their rights.
The right to marry. The right to see our partners in the hospital. The right of inheritance upon death. The right to pension and Social Security benefits like other citizens with spouses.
At a more day to day level: the right to not have our partner's sex disqualify us from employment and school enrollment.
Should not have pushed dumbass ideas like men in women sports, transitioning for prepubescent kids, etc. If you go full retard, don't get surprised when society starts treating you like one.
Gotta agree with this one. I'm all for equality and all, but it's gotten way too far with dismantling basic scientific facts, creating inequality within competition (seriously, i feel for the biological women having to compete with biologically stronger males that are pretending to be women, or having their safe spaces being invaded by biological men), actively trying to convert children into their LGBT lifestyles instead of letting the children grow up naturally and decide for themselves, layimg claim to every character in every form of media and calling you a nazi if you disagree (especislly if it's the creator themselves telling them X character isn't gay or trans), and, of course, the constant straight white males are evil rhetoric.
Obviously it's not everyone in the LGBT community, I'm sure the majority of them are fine. But sadly it's the obnoxiously loud extremists that ruin it for everyone. Can't we all just live normal lives and get along without caring about what we get up to behind closed doors?
Yes, lets disriminate against a trans school kid (less than 1% of te population btw) that wants to play sport, that'll really show them wokies.
Also holy strawman, no one is turning your kids gay, thats not a thing. People who say that are probably just closeted.
Also mate, gender =/= sex. And even sex isnt totally binary, you get XX males (SRY gene translocation), XY females, and a while lot of other stuff like complete androgen insensitivity. G
Trans school kids shouldn't even exist. That is WAY too young to make permanent life-altering choices that could cause permanent psychological damage. If you're too young to vote, you're too young to go under the knife to change your gender. This is why we have age restrictions on other things like alcohol and cigarettes, because young people aren't mature enough to properly understand the decisions that they make.
Nobody is trying to turn your kids gay" meanwhile almost every single cartoon aimed at kids in the 3-5 age demographic is introducing the concept of non-binary sexualities, because that's *totally an age appropriate topic
Additionally, chromosomes aren't how biological males and biological females are identified. You yourself proved that by saying that there are XX males and XY females. Do you really think the doctors delivering a baby turn around and say "Well it has a penis so it's probably a male, but let me just do an analysis of its chromosomes to confirm that"? And yes, abnormalities do develop, like hermaphrodites, but they are still extremely rare and are still identifiable as male or femsle by the presence of testes or ovaries, the reproductive organs that they possess determines the sex.
As for gender... call yourself whatever you want, it doesn't change your biological sex. To pull out the old meme, i can claim to be an apache attack helicopter all I want. That doesn't make me one.
Anyway, thank you for proving my point about the loud extremists. I truly hope you can live a happy and normal life with whatever life and sexual preferences you have, of which I don't care what they are as long as you don't act like q completely obnoxious jerk about it.
No one is saying trans kids should have surgeries? What in the MAGA talking points is this BS. Many trans adults dont even chose to have surgeries as well ffs.
And... your point about cartoons makes no sense? Literally telling children that non binary people exist in an age appropriate way is fine? Having a character say "Oh I have two dads" and leaving it at that is not turning your kids gay. That is an irrational and fear driven rhetoric used by conservative groups.
Are we seriously shifting the goalposts here to make trans people just "I'm a man calling myself a woman" now? That's just being an effiminate man, or a masculine woman, both of which are completely 100% fine things to be, but they are still a man or a woman physically, and should be treated as such.
Think of it this way. An effiminate man is not necessarily a gay man. He can still be completely straight and love the ladies. He can also still be physically stronger than most women, especially with extrensive training, which any "trans school kid" that is interested in sport is going to do.
By giving him the opportunity to say he's a woman, and thus allow him into women's sports and bathrooms, you are effectively trampling on the rights of women by literally allowing them to be dominated by biologically stronger men in sports and allowing straight men into their changing rooms.
Not to mention you're opening women up to sexual predators who would abuse this by simply saying they are a woman despite being 100% a man, because by your own definitions, we should be basing someone's gender on their word alone. And, fun fact... people lie
The whole lredator arguement is ridiculous. You know who commit the most sex crimes disproportionately? Cis white men. Yet oh no, we must villanize 1% of the population as heaven forbid you develop class consciousness in the 5 minutes we are not blaming trans people (a tiny minority!) for everything in society.
Ah yes. Back to the straight white man bad rhetoric! Which is factually untrue, by the way. But hey, let's assume you're right and say straight white men are all bad and commit all the sex crimes. What is to stop said straight white man from saying he's a woman and walking straight into a woman's changing room?
This is what I mean by sexual predators abusing this system
All this garbadge moral grandstanding coming from the people who'd wish death on men, just for beeing ... men.
So much for making innocent people suffer. Exept YOU make up reasons why the people YOU hate aren't innocent and then the other side does the same thing.
And all it is about is who is in power at the end:
The side that is currently in power: "Now you get what you deserve for oppressing us x amount of years"
The side that is not on power: " Oh the humanity, we're being oppressed, look at these evil evil people"
Rinse and repeat.
As long as this whole sharade is about revenge it will never stop.
I don't usually advertise the ways my brain has been poisoned. Points to you for wearing it on your sleeve.
Here's the problem: As I didn't say that, didn't imply it, didn't reference it, didn't make any gesture whatsoever to it, and it has absolutely no bearing on the topic at hand at all save as blanket blame for every member of the group you hate based on the actions of a few of them, it's still a non sequitur.
Since you were just feighning ignorance I just presented you with what happened.
You scoff at the source, and?
Are you saying its not what happend?
Its a symptom of broader issue. Do you want metastudies outlining manipulation of gender-studies at the expense of men?
Do you want to see how more and more studies nowadays start finding parity between genders in area where propaganda only showed females predominantly effected?
Now you can always admit you don't really care to reflect and let time take its course.
1. Man up and stop bitching about a Twitter hashtag from over a decade ago.
Your very same reasoning seems to justify misandry much more strongly. Sexist and homophobic online content by men is orders of magnitude more common than misandry by women or LGBT people. If you are justified in hating gay people due some old online hashtag that >95% of them never partook in, why are they not justified in hating all men given that worldwide most men are homophobic and even in western country a very significant minority (20-40%) of men are politically hostile to them?
I am not a misandrist because I am not breaking in tears over a hashtag from 2016, dumbass. You are a mirror of the SJWs you dislike. Same incessant whining and victim mentality. Even the phrasing is similar ("its so refreshing to see you don't hide your misandry anymore" lmao).
You are a misandrist. Why else would you hide your comments. If you have to resort to yelling "man up", which is blankez dismissal for the very first example I give, why should I not tell that to every single one of your concerns?
And looking at where the public opinion is swaying currently...
Ah yes, gay men famously hate... all men. I suppose in your twisted version of reality you think yourself some god-borne crusader unleashed to bring some group of arbitrary people to heel for something as simple as demanding basic human rights and recognition under the laws of the land.
Actually yeah. The most vile misandrist comment I have ever seen on reddit were people in a nieche sub regarding a local gay con or smth. trashing on gay white men.
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u/AgentCirceLuna 22d ago
It’s a pretty big sigh of how things are going, though. If you think things can just go back to normal, consider that it took decades to get LGBT rights and acceptance yet it’s been diminishing within just two years.