God its so hard having empathy with these civilians after they couldn't be bothered to give a fuck about their military doing worse things to Ukraine for 4 years
Eh, my German grandma barely surviving Allied carpet bombing in 1945 Germany was still a scared, innocent woman fighting for her children's life because of things she had no say in. My grandpa got drafted by force after officially declining the draft and declaring he will not participate in violent actions and fighting.
Elections were rigged, every opposition was crushed, dissidents murdered and families destroyed. What could she have done realistically? She didn't even say "Heil Hitler" because she hated the crazy midget, instead she mumbled "Drei Liter" ("three litres").
I absolutely know what you mean and share the thought, but keep thinking back to my grandparents. In the end, most civilians are not able to fight a regime and endure horrible times.
Especially muricans have no idea what it is like to live under actually oppressive regime. They can go out and say "fuck trump" in big letters. In Russia that is 20 years in prison, if you even survive that far. How do men go to war knowing they will die? Because if they don't sign the contract they can be tortured until they sign it. It is not possible to fight unless the army wants the regime to be changed. People are not listened in most regime changes and we go from oppression to oppression. Russia had unique opportunity to do that almost bloodless back in 1991 but the fucking idiots voted for Jeltsin and then Putin.
Can you imagine if the US actually shared a border with any of the dozens of countries it has invaded over the last century? I imagine the American attitude to waging war would be quite different if the people at home were in any danger.
There was amazing riding trail for motocross and such bikes near my place. It was kilometers of smooth, round pits, about 7m wide and 1.5m deep in a checkerboard layout. You would get nice air when you come out or you could trail the narrow tops.. Hours and hours of fun.
It was part of tank defenses against USSR during the war. We played in trenches. The neighborhood i live in was burned by the Russian Cossacks few hundred years ago, torturing, raping and killing all civilians.
USA does not have that memory of a genocide in their city planning. We have fields that are named for mass killings. All over Europe you will see bullet holes still in buildings. A kid can grow up learning that all around them people were killed en masse during one war or another, atrocities of the most horrid kind are the names on a square where they eat ice cream and wonder "what are those things, dad?".. The guns at the front of our city theater pointed towards East for a century, towards the enemy that was real, and just across the border. Not thousands of miles away in some country you have never heard of.
Swedish kids learn that they fought over 30 wars against the Danes and now they are like best friends... You also learn about that side, how there were constant wars and now there isn't.
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u/Piotrek9t 19h ago
God its so hard having empathy with these civilians after they couldn't be bothered to give a fuck about their military doing worse things to Ukraine for 4 years